Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing: 5 Tips to Identify One

by Pamela Rose Williams on November 15, 2011 · Print Print · Email Email

Have you ever heard the saying “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”?  I have heard it a couple of places. First, many years ago I heard one of Aesop’s Fables which talked about a wolf that put on a sheep skin so that he could fool the shepherd into believing he was a lamb.  Then when the shepherd locked the flock behind the gate at night the wolf  thought he was clear to eat all the sheep he wanted. To his surprise the shepherd returned to the flock that night to gather meat for the next day. The wolf in sheep’s clothing was killed as one of the sheep. You see the saying “wolf in sheep’s clothing” simply means someone who is pretending to be something they are not.

Years later I heard this concept in another place –The Bible.  Jesus warns against wolves in sheep’s clothing:

Wolves in Sheep's Clothing

“… Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing …” Matthew 7:15

… Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but in-wardly are ravenous wolves.  Mathew 7:15

Following are five tips on how you can identify a wolf in sheep’s clothing; a false prophet.

The Guessing Wolf: They Said it Would Happen – Did It? 

History is full of accounts of folks predicting the end of the world; some in the not so distant past.  Also, how about the prophets who promise people that they will be healed of a terminal disease and it never happens.  A true prophet will predict things and those things will come to pass. A wolf in sheep’s clothing will play the guessing game and when their prophecy turns out false, they will make excuses and sometimes even set a new date for that big prophetic event. The Bible is clear about what will happen to false prophets and the foolishness of predicting the future. Take a look:

Deuteronomy 18:20-22  But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. 

Ecclesiastes 10:14 A fool multiplies words, though no man knows what is to be, and who can tell him what will be after him?

The Biblically Illiterate Wolf: Does What They Prophesy Agree With Scripture? 

Are you hearing things that you know do not agree with what you have learned from the Bible? If you are it may be because that wolf in sheep’s clothing does not know the Bible and he is counting on his audience not knowing the Bible also. This is why it is essential for the Christian to be daily in the Word because when you know the truth, a lie will be very clear to you.

Is he causing problems in the church and amongst the brethren? A prophet should be building up the church, not tearing it down and causing divisions. Perhaps he is a smooth talker and believes that his smooth talk will gain him follows and feed his own belly (pride). He is not looking to edify the body, he is selfish and cunning. Look at these teachings and warning from Paul to several of the churches in his day; they are relevant in today’s churches also.

Romans 16:17-18 (KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 

1 Corinthians 14:3-4 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 

Ephesians 4:11-16  And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love. 

The Worldly Wolf: Do They Have A Good Testimony for Jesus? 

The worldly wolf will not bear fruit. You may not even know he is a Christian by his deeds. You can see this wolf when he goes about his daily affairs and his actions are not such that lead others to Jesus.  In fact, his actions turn people away from the truth of the Gospel. He is not an ambassador for Christ. Here are some verses from the Bible to help you spot this wolf. If you don’t see this in his walk, beware.

Matthew 7:16-20 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles?So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. 

Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. 

Galatians 5:19-25 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God

James 2:16 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 

1 John 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

The Lazy Wolf: Are Their Prophetic Teachings Generating Lots of Money?Wolf in sheep's clothing or black sheep?

Wolves will eat just about anything, even road-kill meat. It is a way to save energy during the cold winter months. It’s a way to get something for nothing – no work involved. They will look for deer that have been struck by motor vehicles and enjoy a free meal.  Same thing with the false prophet; their greed will cause them to collect money for speaking engagements where they speak the falsities and exploit unknowing prey. Greed drives their ministry rather than grace. We are warned that these wolves are not only outside of the church, but come from within as well.

Acts 20:28-30 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.

2 Peter 2:1-3 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. 

The Sneaky Wolf: They Hide Until the Time is Right

Wolves are sneaky. They watch the prey and plan the attack. The sneaky wolf, false prophet is in the church watching and waiting. He is the one who calls secret meetings. He gains the trust of folks and then rises up to attack, taking innocent victims with him.  The Bible is clear about how God will deal with these sneaky wolves.

Matthew 7:21-23 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Matthew 24:4-5 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

A True Prophecy: Wolves Won’t Always Be Bad 

The great thing about the Bible is that is does not only tell us to beware of these wolves in sheep’s clothing, but it also assures us that we will not always have to fear the wolf. Isaiah, a true prophet, tells us that we have this to look forward to after Jesus comes and there is a new Heaven and new Earth:

Isaiah 11:6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them.

Isaiah 65:25 “… The wolf and the lamb shall graze together; the lion shall eat straw like the ox, and dust shall be the serpent’s food. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain,” says the LORD. 

How Do You Spot a Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing? 

Do you have some tips to share?  Leave a comment below, we would love to hear from you.

Sources:

The Holy Bible, King James Version

The Holy Bible, English Standard Version

“Scripture quotations are from The Holy Bible, English Standard Version® (ESV®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.”



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Jack November 15, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Superb work here Pam. This is increasingly becoming a problem. When the cross of Christ and the Christ of Calvary is preached, and the Word of God is taught, then you know that the centrality of Christ is the right church. False shepherds are always seeking a following, but a true shepherd is following the Great Shepherd. Wonderful advice to keep watching. We will know His voice when we hear His voice spoken and that voice is the Word of God Himself (the Bible). Thank you so much.

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Pam November 15, 2011 at 4:36 pm

Thanks Jack, your words of encouragement mean so much. Blessings brother!

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grace November 18, 2011 at 3:20 am

thank you very much.i am so much encouraged and have learnt a lot.i have printed this and i am going to share it with my sisters and brothers. good bless you.

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Pam Williams November 18, 2011 at 11:05 am

Hello Grace — I love your name! Thank you for taking the time to stop by the comments section to leave your words of encouragement. Yes, please share! Blessing to you and your sisters and brothers.

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Susie November 28, 2011 at 10:28 pm

I do not wish to condemn any denomination, but I have some Jehovahs Witness friends who often tell me I NEED to become a member of their church to be certain of salvation. I feel (though I cant say for certain) that they are a wolf in sheeps clothing. If they are decieved, is there anything I can show them in the Bible that may be able to help?

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Jack Wellman November 29, 2011 at 3:16 pm

Susie, thank you for visiting the website. Great question and one that is so important. And your so kind to reply that we don’t want to condemn any denomination but we are commanded to expose those who are false shepherd (I Timothy & elsewhere). Here are a few that I know of:

The Jehovah’s Witnesses will quote John 1:18, “No man hath seen God at any time” and say that is proof that Jesus Christ could not be God. The very simple explanation of this is the analogy of a person. In reality, no man hath seen me at any time, he has only seen my body, not my soul. When Christ was on earth, His body was visible, but not God’s entire person and glory. Jesus said Himself that they had seen the Father (John 14:7-9).

Scriptures to show that more than 144,000 can be saved, and that Christ died for “all” men. When presenting salvation (if you made it this far and they have not left yet), you should continually emphasize that salvation is a gift given to us by grace, and that works earn rewards, not grace. We are justified by faith alone, through grace alone in Christ alone. Justification is a divine act where God declares the sinner to be innocent of his sins. It is a legal action in that God declares the sinner righteous — as though he has satisfied the Law of God. This justification is based entirely on the sacrifice of Christ by His shed blood: “…having now been justified by His blood…” (Rom. 5:9).1 Justification is a gift of grace (Rom. 3:24; Titus 3:7) that comes through faith (Rom. 3:28; 5:1).2 Christians receive Jesus (John 1:12) and put their faith-filled trust in what Jesus did on the cross (Isaiah 53:12; 1 Pet. 2:24) and in so doing are justified by God. The Bible states that justification is not by works (Rom. 3:20, 28; 4:5) Ephesians 2:8-9 ” For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.”

The Jehovah’s Witnesses will be quick to tell you that they do not believe in Hell. They use rationalism to say that God would never punish anyone eternally however Jesus spoke more about hell than any other subject next to worry…and it declares dozens of times that it is eternal, and “where the worm dies not.”

Despite the fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses call us “pluralists” (i.e. believe in more than one God), they are the ones that worded John 1:1, “a god”. Christians believe that there is one God in three personalities. The original Koine Greek says “the Word ((WAS)) God, not “a’ God and the Word was with God (the Father) and the Word (Jesus is always referred to as the Word in all of John Chapter 1) WAS God, not “a” God.

There are dozens and dozens of FAILED prophecies by the Watchtower but God says that even if ONE prophecy fails, they are not from God but from humans (Duet. 18:18-22). This is long, so I apologize but look at all of these failed prophecies over the last 100 years!

1852 Charles Taze Russell was born.

1877 Russell was a Seventh Day Adventist (many of the beliefs similar).

1879 Russell founded the organization with the publication of “Zion’s Watchtower and Herald of Christ’s Presence”.

1881 Zions Watch Tower Tract Society formed

1908 The headquarters was moved to Brooklyn, NY.

1910 Russell wrote that it was better to study his “Scriptural Studies” than the Bible to “stay in the light”, “The Watchtower” Sept. 15, 1910, pg. 98. (He later called some of his writings immature).

1913 Russell went to court against a man that wrote a tract against Russell’s teachings (J. J. Ross). In the files of the High Court of Ontario, Canada, Mar. 17, 1913 is the record. Russell lied many times. He said that he knew Greek, under oath, and then admitted that he did not. He perjured himself under oath. He admitted that he did not know Latin or Hebrew, that he did not have any higher learning, and that he was not ordained.

1916 Russell died. Joseph Franklin Rutherford took over.

1917 – 1928 The Watchtower magazine changed the doctrines 148 times.

1927 Watchtower factory constructed in Brooklyn, NY, USA.

1931 Rutherford changed the name to “Jehovah’s Witnesses” to reunite splinter groups that had broken off.

1933 Rutherford said that all who had left the Jehovah’s Witnesses because of his renunciation of Russell’s pyramid theories would suffer destruction. “The Kingdom”, pg. 14, by J. F. Rutherford.

1940 The society began street distribution of the “Watchtower” and “Consolation”.

1942 Rutherford died. Nathan H. Knorr was the next president.

1943 Knorr established the Jehovah’s Witnesses school in Brooklyn.

1950 “New World Translation” of the New Testament published.

1954 Haydon C. Covington, legal counsel and vice-president of the JW’s, admitted under oath in court (Scotland) that he had never read “Studies in the Scripture”, that false prophecy was promulgated by the JW’s, and that unity had to be maintained “at all costs”, even at the expense of the truth.

Fred Franz, president, admitted under oath that the Watchtower Society publishes errors that they must later correct.

1960 “The Watchtower” declared that The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is “God’s sole collective channel for the flow of Biblical truth to men on earth in these last days.”

1981 “WatchTower” published “Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization…unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.” (Dec. 1, 1981, pg. 27)

1985 3 million distributing literature, 7.8 million attend annual communion.

III. False Prophecies of the Watchtower (Deu 18:18-22)

1877 End of the world is very near.

1880 Earthly kingdom will begin in 1914, “Watchtower” Mar. 1880, pg. 82 – 1914 date based on 607 BC fall of Jerusalem. It is now known to be 587 BC.

1881 pg. 126, C. T. Russell said if earthly kingdom did not come in 1914, he was a false prophet.

1886 Marshalling of hosts for great battle is in progress.

1889 Battle, already commenced, will end A. D. 1914, The Time Is At Hand, by C. T. Russell, 1889, pg. 101.

1894 1914 will be the end of the time of trouble.

1904 Stress of the great time of trouble will be Oct. 1914.
– there will be a rapture in 1914.

1914 Armageddon may be next spring (1915).

1915 WWI is beginning of Armageddon.

1917 Earthquake in 1918, fire will come Fall 1918.

1918 Rutherford prophesied the physical return of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as 1925, – “Millions Now Living Will Never Die”, 1918, pg. 89-90.

1920 Kingdom and earthly resurrection to come in 1925.

1929 End very soon.

1930 Climax is at hand.

1931 Armageddon is at hand.

1932 The end is a very short time away.

1939 The end is very near. Armageddon is just ahead.

1940 Final settlement is near at hand.

1941 Armageddon will be in a few years. Rutherford said, “Why marry when so close?”.

1942 New world is at the doors, the time is short.

1943 The beginning of the final war is near.

1944 The end of the world arrangement is near.

1946 Armageddon will be before 1972.

1953 1954 could well be “the year”.

1955 Armageddon is nearing its breakingout point.

1966 The climax of history is at the door.

1968 Armageddon in 1975

1969 Only a short time left.

1975 F. W. Franz (VP) predicted (in Feb.) Sept. 1975 as the end of history. Many parents pulled their children out of school, many quit their jobs and sold their homes.

Today: Still predicting the end of the world within one generation of 1914. (A generation is typically 73 years, or 1987 at the latest).

Thank you for caring enough to show them the truth and that THEY ((NEED)) to know the truth according to the Bible and not me or man nor woman. Thank you Susie.

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Onalenna May 3, 2012 at 7:44 am

Thanks Pam and Jack for the insight and encouraging us as christians to be on the look out of false prophets .May the Lord richly bles you and your families

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Pamela Rose Williams May 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm

Hello Onalenna, It is my great pleasure to share the word of God here at WCWTK. I am so happy you stopped by and thank you for calling for a blessing on us and our families. We are so blessed by our readers. Please stop in again any time.

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cheryl pearson June 6, 2012 at 2:39 pm

My son in law is a head decon of ourchurch. him and his wife had a fight. he walked out on his family this has happened more than once
he only supports them as far as rent and utilities. does not give them any money to live on. no food or any gas money. her brother and myself I am her mother give her money to live on and the children. no 1 from the church ever contact her and ask her how is she doing. he protrays to be a good man. and at times he is. but he is a very big gossiper. and at times talks bad about the pastor and the people of the church. he does not walk in love with his family at all if we come to church he does not even hug his children and talks bad about them my pastors doesn’t even talk to my daughter now. and even just sa. thpastor’s wife is a very very big gossiper with the other deacons wife. what do I do I am so very hurt over all this. I even asked my son in law to forgive me if I have done anything wrong but she never says forgive me

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Jack Wellman June 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm

It sounds like this deacon has just disqualified himself from being a deacon for a deacon is commanded to provide for his own family or he is worse than an unbeliever. Go to this man’s pastor and tell him what you just told me, privately, for we are not to make an accusation without a witness and not do so unless it is done privately, according to church disciplinary guidelines found in the Bible. Your unforgiving son in law is not living a Christ-like life. He gossips, he is unforgiving, and he doesn’t support his family. He is thus disqualified. Read 1 Tim 3:1-16, especially verse 8. He is a sheep in wolves clothing to me. Again, talk to the pastor and tell him all of this. If the pastor does nothing, find another church.

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cheryl pearson June 6, 2012 at 2:50 pm

To correct that he never has ever asked us to forgive him My pastor is an awesome teacher and preacher. I love him very much but I am very disappointed in his actions towards my family
it is a small church. and it is good people there and I do love them
. my pastor once said that he my son in law has all the fruits. and in so many words my daughter had none. what does that say.. I’m hoping to hear back from you soon thank you in christ love

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Amy July 9, 2012 at 12:36 pm

Are we to pray for wolves?

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Pamela Rose Williams July 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm

Hi Amy, thank you for your comment, although I am not sure what you mean by it … can you elaborate?

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Amy July 9, 2012 at 8:54 pm

When we know that someone is teaching a false gospel and CONTINUES to deceive many…… are we called in the Bible to pray for them… or called to expose them……such as people like joyce meyer, rick warren, and many others~

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Pamela Rose Williams July 10, 2012 at 10:04 am

Thanks Amy, I believe that Bible says a couple things in regard to your question (well, at least a couple):

(1) Romans 16:17-18 (KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

(2) As Christians we should be praying for everyone. “I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men” (1 Tim 2:1-2)

When someone asks why you do not listen to a certain “prophet” just tell them the truth from the Bible.

So the answer is (1) separate from them and (2) YES, pray for them Amy. Pray that God shows them the truth and they correct their ways.

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Loretta Efe-Ideji August 10, 2012 at 4:43 pm

Please I have a question to ask and goes like this; is it biblical that you must sow a seed to end a fasting and praying program? The reason for this question is becos a prophet said that I should do a program and sow a seed to the orphanage that I haven’t sown before to end it and I don’t have the money for now. Is it right? Also, is it right to borrow money to sow seeds? Please I want to know becos I am worried cos I don’t v d money. Thanks

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Pamela Rose Williams August 22, 2012 at 8:06 pm

Hello Loretta Efe-Ideji -

I do not find in the Bible that you need to sow a seed to end anything. The Bible says:

Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. (2 Cor 9:7)

You give as you are able how you purpose in your own heart. It is not biblical for anyone to tell you that you must give for any cause.

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Jessica August 21, 2012 at 1:09 am

I just recently joined visited a new church here in my area called Victory Outreach… During their service, I kind of got this weird feeling over me that this church was not bearing really the good fruit, I would like to say. The main flow there was a ordained pastor, who had built up many churches, and now has followers in the thousands. He talked a lot about his “vision.” I have never heard any other church talk about “vision,” before and it just sounded so un-christlike. He mentioned expanding and even talked a lot about money. I felt his main aim was all about money. He said he wants expansion and evangelism, but requires a lot of money. Even through the service, there was really no biblical teaching, and if there was it was wrong. He preached a lot about “good works,” and I know “faith” is the way. From my impression, he was being worshipped, when Christ should be. When I got back to the house, I researched it online, and there are lots of people who have had the same experience as me. I am glad I saw the signs and got out quick, I am thankful. Thing is, I really do not have that much knowledge of the Bible as I have just started attending church a few years ago, but I am trying my best to follow Christ the best I can, but it is difficult for me at times, and I am trying to work on that. I feel God has been with me a lot in my life, and even was there when I first walked into that church. Something inside me told me it was not right, and I felt it was him talking. I feel this way because I feel I was vulnerable and could have been an easy target, but then all those people who have more knowledge and in church way before me, how come they did not see what I did? I feel if God wasn’t with me then, I may have been trapped as well. But, does it sound like a cult to you? I mean…I am kind of feeling confused in the sense I myself know/think it is, but also think maybe I am overthinking it a lot and that it is possible they are not, although I do feel strongly.

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Cat October 15, 2012 at 5:59 pm

Jessica…Are you by chance in the Colorado Springs area? I ask because I am looking at churches as well! I have stayed away from Victory Outreach because it is a mega church and I have learned, many but not necessarily all, are more interested in the money. I have been to a few which also usually are very Charamatic and have bands with lots of singing. Nothing wrong with singing but when they sing the same chorus over and over for up to five minutes, then it starts to remind me of scriptures warning about chanting…vain repetition! I would love to find a church that would encourage my growth but also be a family. Mega churches are to me very impersonnal and I have found that many who go are more interested in the services they provide than the message…Youth groups, singles groups, counselling services. It can be hard to find churches nowdays that offer other fellowship opportunities but they do exist amoung mid to smaller churches. You just have to really look and that is what I am trying to find!

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Pamela Rose Williams August 22, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Hi Jessica, I believe you should prayerfully consider finding another church. You said the preacher is not preaching from the word — that is the first indication that you need to move on. Here are a couple articles that might help you with your decision, they are written by a couple of our pastors here at WCWTK:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-find-a-bible-believing-church/

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-choose-a-church-7-things-to-look-for/

I hope this is helpful to you.

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Ann August 28, 2012 at 7:23 am

What should you do when you have someone prophecying over you falsely? I have gone to the pastor and he did nothing. He said things like that works out on its own.

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Pamela Rose Williams August 28, 2012 at 8:34 am

Hello Ann. Good question. I believe you should confront that person with what the Word of the Lord says. Feel free to use any Scripture that is included in this article. If it is a leader in the church that is doing this it might be time to find another church.

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Sandra September 16, 2012 at 5:44 pm

In 1993 my son was going through the training to become baptized into a certain religion. He was nine years old and was at one of the last two lessons before his baptism. I felt as if something was not exactly right about what was about to occur. During this lesson I told the missionary exactly what I was feeling. The missionary told me to pray about it and I would have an answer in the morning. I woke up the next morning saying out loud “Wolves in sheep’s clothing” over and over again. I called a friend of mine to ask her where that scripture came from in the bible. She said that it came from Matthew 7:15. I read it and discussed it with my friend. I discussed what had occurred with my son and then the missionaries. We decided that the baptism was not in his best interest. I will never forget the events that happened then. I am so thankful to the Lord for hearing my prayer in regards to giving such a clear answer for my son.

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Shannon Kirk October 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm

Please pray for my friend’s son. He is experimenting with drugs and is hurting himself and his parents. They are devastated and the son does not seem to care. The mother is hurting so bad and I see the pain on her face each day I see her. PLEASE pray for this young man. His name is J and the Lord will know who you are talking about. She knows to do humanly possible. THank you! Blessings!

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Susan Hughes November 4, 2012 at 1:34 am

I am praying for Victory Outreach, Lakewood (Joel Osteen) where many 1000′s are being led astray. The Crystal Church although having transparent windows was found by GOD to be full of sin in the managing of the monies that built this church on 1 Corinthians 3:12 -15. This huge church went into liquidation. What happened to all the hurting hearts? Those whose faith was badly shaken – I pray they have now put their full trust in the only one who deserves that TRUST – JESUS CHRIST. Amen! I have just walked away from my church of seven years. What was being spoken out in church “seemed” sincere and I’m sure it was to a degree but what is happening behind the scenes is greatly concerning not least of which how I was treated after a supernatural experience when I needed to know I was not alone. Sandra received a clear answer from GOD regarding her son. Over and over I kept having the words put on my heart 2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore come out from among them, and be you separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, – also ‘GUARD your heart for out of it flows the issues of life Proverbs 4:23. I also received these warnings for the prison ministry I have been in from the start 7 years ago and what has unfolded is confirmation of WHY GOD wanted me to be separate from them. The good coming from this is the knowledge that seven in the Bible is a completion of something and the assurance that there is much more to come :-) Hallelujah! Excellent word Pamela and it wasn’t by “accident, co-incidence, chance” that I came here today – it was by the GRACE of GOD to encourage in this time of change. Amen! I have also captured links/stories in the comments which are valuable to the many followers (for GOD’s glory) on my facebook – I can be found under Susan Avril Hughes – just google my name it, all the info is there :-) God Bless everyone – we are PREPARING the way for the coming CHRIST to find HIS… church without spot or blemish. Amen!

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Susan Hughes November 4, 2012 at 1:53 am

Note the date of my post and your’s Pamela – it is almost exactly a year apart to the month :-)

Shannon I am praying for your friend’s son as I’m sure you and others are too. My son became involved in drugs to the point where he wanted to end his life. Though he was not saved at that time his mother’s trust and faith in GOD pulled him through and one night I was physically fighting with a demon in him. The bed was shaking. He woke the next morning far more peaceful and said he had not felt a thing as I lay next to him declaring his coming salvation. He came to salvation 2 years later, outside a church, over skype from England to Bahrain, through his mum (God can use a loving, humble, contrite heart immeasurably). Our son said after the words spoken by me “do you want to accept Jesus into your heart” that it was not my voice. Within three months of his salvation my daughter came to Christ too as we sat in her flat and I asked her the same question and she said “Yes”. Salvation can come anywhere and GOD equips you, qualifies you to carry on guiding, nurturing that person in their new walk with Him. TO GOD BE ALL….THE GLORY / Be encouraged Shannon!! God Bless.xx

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Pamela Rose Williams November 4, 2012 at 2:46 pm

I praise God for faithful sisters in Christ such as you Susan. Thank you for your comments and your prayers. You encourage me and others.

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Angela.O November 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm

Could this also mean wolf in sheeps clothing…It is my nature to be kind,gentle, and loving
But know this:

When it comes to
matters of protecting
my friend, my family,
and my heart.
Do not
trifle with me. For I am
also the most powerful
and relentless creature
you will ever know.
– Unknown

Because this is how I feel sometimes, I can be very nice and sweet as a lamb, but the second someone messes with my family the wolf would come out. Just being honest..

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alfredo December 23, 2012 at 9:18 pm

i love the comments and thank u jack for the explanation on the false prophets im new to the christian scriptures and i had them im at door but i thank jesus that i didnt listen to them god bless

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Jack Wellman December 23, 2012 at 9:49 pm

Hello Alfredo. I appreciate your encouraging comments. I am so glad it could help someone for truly, these false prophets are on the increase and most often in it for the money. May God richly bless you too Alfredo.

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alfredo December 24, 2012 at 7:34 am

Thanks jack merry christmas god bless you id like to ask you to pray for me so that the scripture that i read i can remember them and that jesus can lead me on the right path that i need to be that when evil comes near me to have the wisdom to just walk away humbly thanks jack take care my friend

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Jack Wellman December 24, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Hello Alfredo. What a godly prayer request my friend. I believe that James wrote that if any man desires wisdom let him ask of God who gives to all liberally and so this is a prayer request that lines up with the will of God. That is what I pray for you my friend.

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Renee February 7, 2013 at 8:53 am

I have seen ministers like this and left their churches because of them.

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Pamela Rose Williams February 7, 2013 at 9:20 am

AMEN Renee. Praise God that you had the courage to move on.

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visitor April 30, 2013 at 8:45 am

Hi,

I have had similar experiences in London with a very reputable and popular church. Its hard because I am new , and have come across so much stuff from christians that seems like rubbish, as some of the posts above explain how I felt.
One lady I know, however, did say to me to stay away form the church, it needed healing.

I have had weird things said to me as if they were from the Holy spirit (by a christian), but were condemning and made feel like rubbish, Have been directly insulted and actually am now quite scared of christians. What would anyone advise, in the sense of being safe and protected? ANd also, how do I ‘get over’ the experiences and stop hurting?
Examples would be:
1. being ignored when i speak
2. being called names
3. being shouted at
4. being told i needed light
5. being excluded
6. being told i had a heavy burden of sins- i was tired from working such long hours and was also recovering from a traumaitc event so this was hardly encouraging and healing
in a condemning way
7 being looked at and called a ‘funny girl’ – have not had this said to me by non-christians
8.gossip- pastor leader knew I had been made redundant, yet I had not told her nor even been to the pastorate- the reality was I was about to resign, they knew it (the firm) and so got in before me…

So, my question is , feeling burned, how do I move on to a joyous life, and know that all of the above is unacceptable. Problem is, I started to question myself..does God really want me this upset?? because i saw them as ppl who had been christians for a long time, so thought they would be a good example..

Has been all too confusing for me :(

Any advice appreciated.

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Cat May 2, 2013 at 5:18 am

Vistor…Please don’t give up on God, or finding a church home. No, God does not want you to be this upset…He wants you to find peace, love, and happiness through him. Problem is that popular and reputable churches are not necessarily following proper biblical teachings. The bible warns of that in the end there will be those who appear to be Godly but are not of God. There will be churches which teach false doctrine. The closer the antichrist and our Lords return approaches, the more worldliness we will see. Even churches will become more interested in bringing in money, bending to popular beliefs (being politically correct over teaching the truth of Gods’ word), and providing social services as a means of bringing in money and increasing membership.

I have been where you are and it hurts my sister… my heart goes out to you! Yes, we are to rebuke those who are disobiediant to Gods’ word but we are to do so gently, with love, and by example. It sounds to me like you have been singled out for not buying into everything being taught. I have experienced first hand the behaviors you listed being used on me to force me to comply with everyone else and that ministers teaching. However, new Christian, or not, you can still pick up your bible, pray for guidance and ask God to show you the truth. If after doing that, what you are shown and the unease weighing on your heart is still there, I would leave try to find another church. It is not easy and you may have to search a long time but I believe if you are patient, God will lead you to not only a church family with proper teaching, who are examples of his love, but to a church where he can use you to help others.

Always remember that as a Christian, it is our duty to act as Christ did and would have! In otherwords…you are hurt now and have much healling to do but you goal needs to be to find the place God wants you to be, discover his purpose for your life, and struggle to forgive those who have been cruel to you! For we are warned that if we fail to forgive those who have wronged us, God will withhold his forgiveness from us! I know this may sound impossible but if you ask for Gods help, he will gradually allow you to heal and with that, to forgive and grow. Remember Christ always acted in kindness, charity, and Love to even the lowest and most sinful of us!

God Bless you and keep you strong in your faith…remember it is by hardship and trials that our faith is tested and forged into that which is stronger. When you hurt, think about how much more pain and betrayal our Lord went through unfairly for us…that pain will also help you understand his suffering even more!

Wishing you God’s peace and healling…Cat

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true believer May 5, 2013 at 11:24 pm

pam, met one and he almost killed me for financial gain. I was extremely ill. One tip, they scare you about your eternal destination so you believe you need more info. today our Good Lord Jesus healed me, I am no longer ill, and will become a minister of Grace and his true word. God gave me beauty for my ashes, he never fails. Go God

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Alfredo May 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Jack thank u for ur prayer I asked jesus to come into my heart over a year ago and I am happy I have found a great church and its been great praise god

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Alfredo May 6, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Jack thank u for ur prayer I asked jesus to come into my heart over a year ago and I am happy I have found a great church and its been great praise god God bless u

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Carl Jones May 13, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Spotting a wolf? It is not as easy as some seem to think, we ourselves can so easily tun carnivore. Wolves are not always noticeable, however for the Christian exercising discernment they will be seen for what they are; one who perverts the Word of Truth. A wolfs motivation may be sincere, having a desire to see spiritual growth in the lives of others. When they look in the mirror they don’t see a wolf looking back, they see a lamb.
How can we guard against their attacks? The same as we should always guard against false doctrine;
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
It is only as we spend time in the Word of God that we can be certain that we neither accept those who are wolves or that we do not become wolves ourselves.
2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

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Diane June 7, 2013 at 8:44 am

Thank you so much for this website, I did a search on google about wolves in sheep clothes . I was just deceived really bad by a person I had trusted in Christ . I feel so bad that I did not see this before hand . the Lord was showing me things and i did not piece it together till afterwards . thank you so much , God bless you

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John Molokwu June 12, 2013 at 3:05 am

Good day Pastor Pamella Rose Williams,
The more I visit this humble Holy Spirit filled website, the more I am convinced that God indeed has plans for my life. Words cannot express my gratitude and appreciation for what you and Pastor Jack Wellman are doing today!
I have now made it a duty to be part of the WORK of God in your website and visit everyday without fail.

I want to commend you very much for this article and wants you to know that you speak our minds 100% These wolves are a major concern to us in Nigeria as Miss Cat has rightly said: “Even churches will become more interested in bringing in money, bending to popular beliefs (being politically correct over teaching the truth of Gods’ word), and providing social services as a means of bringing in money and increasing membership.”
Note her words; ‘bringing in money and increasing membership’. This particular statement fits well with majority of the churches in Nigeria and this is not supposed to be the case for Jesus Christ did not lay down this precept for us to practice.
I have heard cases where a Pastor will ask members those of you who wants to test God with your finances should come out with N100,000 another set with N50,000, yet another set with N20,000 respectively. People will come out in numbers with cheque or cash to give to the Pastor with the intention and expectation of ‘great financial breakthrough’ since they are trading with God or are in investment partnership with God according to what the Pastor has said. Kindly shed some light on this practices, I need to know if this is biblical because such practices are prevalent in most of our mega churches.
Another issue is the manner these Pastors stress and hammer on Tithe matter. Is tithing a prerequisite in making heaven or gaining salvation? Can one still be blessed by God Almighty even if you do not pay your tithe dutifully or not at all?

I once read an article published by Pastor Femi Aribisala.

It reads as follows:

As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament.

That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10).

This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes.

Latter-day Pharisees

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood-sacrifices.

Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated the law. Here Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous.

Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten percent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchizedek, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety percent) to the king of Sodom.
For his part, Jacob also tithed only once. He did this in a “let’s make a deal” arrangement he offered to God: “Jacob made a vow, saying, ‘If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.’” (Genesis 28:20-22). This kind of deal about accepting God only under certain self-serving conditions should certainly not be a term of reference for any serious believer.

Lies upon lies

The first lie pastors tell Christians is what some have referred to as “the eleventh commandment:” “Thou shalt pay thy tithes to thy local church.” But the bible says no such thing. The storehouse of Malachi was not a church. It was a place where food was kept.

Pastors hide from church-members the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of the animals which ate of the land. (Leviticus 27:30-32). That is why God says: “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.” (Malachi 3:10). He does not say “that there may be MONEY in my house.” The food was used to feed the Levites, the poor, widows, orphans and strangers.

Pastors also conveniently fail to teach the biblical tithe. The principles of tithing were not laid down by Malachi. They were laid down by Moses. The study of Moses’ guidelines quickly reveals that the biblical tithe has no application whatsoever to Christians and is mischievously violated by tithe-collecting pastors today.

According to the Law of Moses, the tithe was divided into three allocations. The first year, it was given to the Levite. The second year, it was given to widows, orphans and the poor. The third year, it was eaten in the company of the faithful before the Lord as thanksgiving for his faithfulness. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28). In the seventh year, there was no planting and no reaping and therefore no tithing.

So the next time your pastor asks you to pay tithe, ask him about the seventh-year reprieve. Also ask him if you can give your tithe to the orphanage, or bring it as food items to be eaten in church. Believe me; he will not agree with you because it is your money he is after.

In applicability of tithes

Tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel. When large populations of Jews lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt, and Syria, these lands became tithe-able lands. However, tithes were not acceptable from strictly Gentile lands. So you need to ask your pastor how come he is collecting tithes in Nigeria.

Servants or slaves who worked on the land did not tithe because the land did not belong to them. Since only agricultural and animal resources were included, a fisherman gave no tithe of his fisheries. Neither did a miner or a carpenter pay tithes, nor anyone from the various professional occupations. So if you are not a farmer or a keeper of livestock, tell your 419 pastor tithing is biblically inapplicable to you.

Moreover, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites. (Hebrews 7:5). So if your Pastor is a “tithe-collector,” ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah.
The trick, of course, is for pastors today to claim we are “Levites.” If your pastor is one such dissembler, ask him if he lives as a Levite. Remind him that Levites had no land and did not have private property. Ask him also how he knows he is from the tribe of Levi, which happens to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. Point out to him that even Jewish rabbis don’t claim to be Levites today because all Jewish genealogical records were lost with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, ensuring that it is no longer possible to ascertain the true identity of Levites.
Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the Levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more Levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose terms of reference remain the Old Testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christians are under a New Testament have no business doing so.

The conclusion then is inescapable. Every pastor who collects tithes is nothing but “a thief and a robber.” (John 10:1).

Pastor Pamella, kindly share your thoughts on this article and help me learn more on what our Lord Jesus Christ teaches concerning tithing and sowing seeds.

I believe not all workers in the vineyard of God are wolves in sheep clothing but, majority seems to be due to the questionable activities of the key players involved in the ministry. I also worship in a mega church but like my Lord Jesus Christ has said in Hebrews 3:6 “But Christ as a son over his own house, whose house are we,…” hence, the mega church building is not my house but, I am a house of Christ.

I pray that God Almighty will continue to inspire all of you at WCWTK and that you will remain ‘a pencil in God’s hands’ in Jesus mighty name Amen!

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Kelley June 19, 2013 at 12:27 am

Michael Garritson, lies upon lies, a past of animal cruelty, once having been tried for murder of an infant in his care, and now, most recently, being caught for secretly abusing a non verbal autistic man his care…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK1YqZ8ioaY

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Gilbert July 11, 2013 at 12:19 am

Dear Sister Pam you sound and look like a cool sister in the Lord. Of course I ran into your website while struggling with the thought of wolves in sheeps clothing because like April 30 troubled person I have similar troubles with a brother which is confusing the heck out of me. He seems to be docile in manner and sensitive to the Holy Spirit and knows the word of God very efficiently.I can not claim total obedience to the Lord but as I began to overcome some sin, I have been struggling for years as I began to have the victory I wanted to rejoice in my overcoming a certain sin looking forward to a good fellowship dinner, that same brother pierced me deeply with some scripture which made some sense but the pain was unbearable and took 3 weeks to overcome the hurt and pain and deep depression and very weak faith. My joy was gone my love was gone not to mention my peace, but the Lord came to the rescue through a client I drive regularly who was raised in basic christian church shared some thoughts as to what may going on in this other brothers mind, to her it seemed he was trying to dominate me in knowledge,just then I rememberd years before we could not have a simple volley game in tennis, he always tried to smash it violently at me. My thoughts of him being an authentic christian came into doubt back then,and my client friend not knowing of the past experience in tennis with this guy says to me he sounds like he likes to play tennis with knowledge, thats just when my spirit was revived and quickened. Thank you Jesus!!! Although I am a believer in the sword of the Spirit, too many of us are being hurt severly by this abusive stabbing of words, I,m not sure but I ,m leaning strongly in believing this is wolf type activity if it is, cursed be those who shed innocent blood.May my friend from April 30, comment be at peace and find a peaceful loving, comforting sheperd who would builup her faith in Jesus Christ. The reason I,m still struggling with this is because he claims expiriencing anointing and baptism of the Holy Spirit which I also expierencing. He knows that he caused some serious damage and we have made amends but I cannot get to close to him any more nor do I want to. I now feel blessed and relieved but very uncomfortable when he is around,since Im feeling blessed in the same church that we both attend my gut feeling is his true colors will show again.I would like your prayer and what your sensing in your spirit in line with scripture,your brother in Christ, Gil with the sheperds heart.

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Kathy July 19, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Pam what do say about a brother that says hes a friend a and a brother and then he just up and leaves the church, never to contact you. I feel he was pretending to be a Christian brother and friend, because if he had any fruit of the spririt, he would be in touch.

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Jennifer August 6, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Thank you for posting this. My husband is emotionally abusive–has been for years. We are in the process of a divorce, in which his rampant prescription drug use, abusive behavior, and diagnosed mental illness-and lack of admitting a problem–caused the ultimate demise of our relationship. Last night, he compared himself to Jesus Christ. He stated “Jesus was humiliated and died on the cross for our sins. He walked among trash, just as I am walking among trash, and just as I am humiliated by going through a divorce; yet my reward will come”. I honestly did not know what to think of this. I have to constantly pray and remind myself that God is watching over me even though I am terrified of this man. Thanks again.

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Jack Wellman August 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm

Hello Jennifer. I will pray that God protects you. I would also tell at least one person and perhaps even more, maybe even the local police and your pastor so there is a record of this man’s mental illness. I pray you are soon able to flee to safety. I am so sorry. I wish I could do more than pray but really, there is nothing more powerful that we can do Jennifer.

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carmen cruz August 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm

thank you word shareing
like to follow you fbook
it is a blessing.learning growing prophetic
amen

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Jack Wellman August 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm

Thank you Carmen. On our Homepage, you can click on the What Christians Want to Know on Facebook and follow us there and we truly appreciate your encouragement.

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Zelia Smith January 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm

We are late in discerning the wolf in sheep clothing. He has been on the prow among the sheep from the beginning and he planted a deceptive defile seed. His deception is so cunning until we are actually thinking and seeing that he is a sheep. We follow him because one of the first things that he did was place a veil of forget fullness over us. This way we will not even know what he has done because the world is in agreement with him. If you do not say or proclaim what the world says, then you are a wolf. If it is not in the bible, word for word or how it has been explained, then it is a wolf or false prophets. You can not discern that which you know nothing of so he remains hidden among the sheep.

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David Copeland March 28, 2014 at 5:46 pm

I agree with an addendum to #1; You only used OT Scriptures to qualify prophets today. Yet keep in mind, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Samuel and all the other prophets spoke prophecies they never lived to see come to pass…yet we are seeing them today. In my study, the fruit inspection of Matthew 7 should be the yardstick to measure NT prophecy..what kind of fruit dies their lives, teaching and ministries produce.

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Heather April 15, 2014 at 9:25 am

Am I the wolf?

I did something I am not proud of. I vented on Facebook about a neighbor of mine. Well she found out.

I apologies for my wrong doings. She stated that she accepted my apology but then calls me the wolf in sheep’s clothing. She told me to leave her alone and to act as though she does not exist.

OK I have been fine with that up until Sunday. God told me while I was cleaning out the garage to invite her back to church for easter service.

How can I do that and not create any more friction?

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Jack Wellman April 15, 2014 at 9:37 am

Thank you Heather. I am not the actual author of this fine article but let me say this that we all make mistakes that we regret and I am most certainly no exception but you have done all that you can do and for her to call you a wolf in sheep’s clothing is out of line, nonetheless, I think you would be displaying the grace and love of God by inviting her to Easter services. That would be a very classy thing to do and taking the high road and not creating more friction. Who knows whether this woman is truly saved and perhaps at Easter services, she might finally decide that, if she is not saved (of course we cannot know but God does), she might repent on the spot and trust in Christ. I believe the Holy Spirit must have been speaking to your heart so invite her and pray for her.

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Heather April 15, 2014 at 11:26 am

I want to avoid any more friction between her and myself that so I am leery about a in person invite. So I did the what I thought to be the next best thing. I sent her a personal email invite. I also might leave something on her door too later today.

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Jack Wellman April 15, 2014 at 12:01 pm

That’s a good way to go and I can see why. I hope that your neighbor excepts because like the Good Samaritan parable, who is our neighbor? Everyone is either lost or saved. Way to go Heather. Love the gift idea even more. You are living out Christ in what you have done!

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Daniel Voisin May 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Hey,

I happened on your article while having a discussion with someone around the polarizing effect of new atheism between Christians and the Godless. I was trying to explain that the division being created is harmful to the teachings of Jesus.

Now, I need to be honest here, so you know who you’re talking to and I don’t deceive you. I am Canadian, I am a Humanist, and I’m an agnostic. I was raised in a Christian house, however the amount of faith measured out for me was never sufficient for me to have a strong belief, therefore I’ve followed Jesus in a different manner.

What concerns me is the current political climate in America. It seems to me quite obvious, looking at things from outside the country, that Christ is not as present in the country as he might have previously been. Not only that it seems both of your political parties are filled with wolves.

For instance the person I was talking to, by looking at their profile, was a Republican. Specifically they seemed to like Rand Paul. My issue here is with Rand’s namesake–Ayn Rand.

As an agnostic myself I don’t take issue with Ayn’s atheism, instead I take issue with her philosophy, which elevates selfishness to a virtue that needs to be cultivated. Moreover she thinks charity and compassion are signs of weakness that need to be gotten rid of.

Unless I’ve missed the point of the gospels entirely isn’t this pretty much entirely contrary to Jesus’ teachings? It’s no coincidence I think that the Church of Satan has said Ayn Rand’s philosophy is the core of their heresy.

Also I can’t help but notice the fruits of both these parties have not been very good at all. It seems they only bear more division, more conflict, and more suffering. The only people seeming to benefit are they themselves, while the rest of the country, world even, struggles in poverty. It seems to me that when a person owns several houses, several cars–maybe even a plane, that the hardwork they put into isn’t sufficient reason to keep those things while people struggle. I just can’t find that in any of the Gospels at all. All I find there is Jesus advising to put hardwork into good acts that bear fruit in the next world instead of this one. Would Jesus not take issue with someone living a lifestyle so extravagant while even a single child shivers at night with a growling belly? Wouldn’t he call them out for being hypocrites and too worldly?

Last thing. Jesus and critical thinking. I understand a certain part of Christianity requires faith, which I’m fine with, however doesn’t Jesus illustrate the use of critical thinking combined with faith in his approach to the Pharisees? To me it seems Jesus is simply looking at the essence of the laws, then contrasting that to actions and outcomes. Yet, too often I hear Christians, specifically ones close to politics, telling people not to think at all. This to me seems like they just want people to ignore what they’re up to instead of a genuine desire to bring them closer to God.

Thanks a lot for giving this a read and have a good Monday.

Peace.

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Jack Wellman May 12, 2014 at 2:23 pm

Thank you Mr. Voisin for your comment. You are spot on in what you have said here sir. I do believe that Jesus has left the country because many are not doing what He has commanded but they are following their own philosophies and beliefs, even among the Christians in this nation. I do believe that we ought to be reasoning and that faith that doesn’t use our minds is useless and that faith is in vain, or as James said, that faith without works is a dead faith and is no faith at all. I am thankful that we have such a nation as Canada as our neighbors for there are fewer nation, if any, that we are more pleased to call our friends and our neighbors.

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Pamela Rose Williams May 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Hello Daniel, Thank you for your comment here. I agree with you that people — Christian or not — need to “think” I truly believe that the reason why we have many of our political leaders in office today (Christ is not as present in our country as He can be) is because people elected them without researching and “thinking”. They listened to the media and then hopped on a band wagon of people who already had a certain way of thinking. They did not study it out. They were lazy. This brings to mind a few Scriptures. “He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster.” (Prov 18:19). “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15) Though the Scriptures were written many years ago, they are still relevant today.

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Jack Wellman May 13, 2014 at 8:20 am

Pam, I am so sorry. I just realized after my comment that this was not my article and so I apologize. I had an article with a similar name and for some reason had thought this was mine. Please forgive me.

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Pamela Rose Williams May 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm

No problem at all Jack, you had a great response. Jump in anytime my friend.

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Marvel June 3, 2014 at 10:05 am

Please is this a sect or not? This pastor and his wife are very conservative. I stop going there but my husband still does and it is cause a big problem in the family. These are my reasons for not attending anymore. I started having fear and my relationship with Christ started to b in works and fear.
1. D Pastor( he start his own church …a very small church over 7yrs now) told members to dress in a certain way, no wig, no pant or leggings under skirts, perfume, hair-dye, heel shoes, makeup because of certain hellfire revelation in YouTube. When I ask him he said the Holy Spirit confirms the vision.
2. Pastor always say the Holy Spirit say this or that and when someone object he shut the topic off and no further discussion and tell one that’s what the Holy Spirit says. Have it or leave it.
3. He control all toys that enter his bible study( done in his living room) and if one forgets anything they put it outside their apartment. They tell kids all disney things are from devil and TV are bad, Videos has to be christian
4. His kids are not allowed to visit church members without them quoting Jacobs daughter that was rape
5. He sees and tells vision of demons and on members even kids. To the extend he told even my daughter 8yrs old that has seen the demon responsible for her bad behavior without delivering her. . He and his wife do kids bible study and 4 times told her not to wear pants.
6. Women should submit to their spouse no matter what to keep satan from attacking the family.
7. He sees devil everywhere that even a long birthday dress I sew for his daughter was thrown away citing Holy Spirit says the origin of the stuff is demonic.
8. When I told him I like his I depth bible study, I am not comfortable with all these characters. He excuse that’s is how the Holy Spirit says. That I should be carefully not fighting God. Or rebelling. I am putting myself on danger zone.

8. They donot associate with other Pentecostal pastors or churches.

9. Hell fire messages, obedient and works to salvation are always his theme. To the extend my kids tell their friends if they do this or that ones end up in hell. Now my kids don’t want to go as I stop so they are now working on my husband to bring the kids to bible study or the devil will destroyed them because God told him we are to come to him for spiritual food to grow because Jesus shows him that God wants to bless us. We are facing financial crisis.

10 he and his wife and little kids the eldest been 10yrs old do the interpretation, worship,adult/ kids bible study in short every thing while members just sit down to listen. They serve us. Reason we need to be fed and until God says anything. My husband is a musician by the way.
The surprising thing is that this pastor and wife appears so humble and nice. That my husband like his bible study and calls him is the best bible teacher/ pastor in our city. All I see in the atmosphere is control, manipulation and fear and no freedom.

I also met ex-members who complained the same things as above.i that I was alone. I told my man but say it is only to discredit this pastor that we are rebels.
These are little I could write. So please is this a sect or what?

My husband is faulty me now for any problem we have. I am just tired and I told him would never go back to where almost destroy my faith…he can go.

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Pamela Rose Williams June 3, 2014 at 10:32 am

Hello Marvel, I personally would not attend the church that you describe. However, I must encourage you to work this out with your husband. Division over your place of worship could destroy your marriage. Please prayerfully consider discussing it more with your husband but before you do, get into your Bible and match your points above up with the truth in the Bible. Show him how God’s word disagrees. Do not make it about you versus your husband. Let God’s word teach him. And be sure you approach him in the way that Paul describes in Galatians 6.

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Marvel June 6, 2014 at 4:04 pm

Thanks Pam. I did tried all these but my husband is blind to it and excuse it as the pastors way or character ….that he is entitle to do as he choose. Inshort because of this conflicts I had to arranged a meeting with this and 2 side pastors familiar to my husband. The meeting ended with this pastor giving his pAst credential as a seer that before this meeting God gave him a dream that I was naked that I should submit to my husband and the family should come for him for bible study (to eat bread). That this is the solution and no further discussion or meeting.He is not the one but Jesus told him this. No room was giving to the other pastors to say anything. Even when they tried to make appointment to see as pastor outside our problems. This confirmed all I was facing there.At the end the other pAstors who pastor churches too advised us to leave that church but my husband won’t that they are just discrediting him. Anyway I told him he can continue but leave me out of that church. I must say my husband just rely on this pastor teachings with reading his bible.

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Pamela Rose Williams June 9, 2014 at 5:46 pm

I am sorry to hear this Marvel, I pray that you are able to find a church the is Biblically sound and that your husband allows you to do so.

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