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margaret armour January 14, 2013 at 9:15 am

A LOT TO TAKE IN AT JUST ONE READING BUT SOMETHING THAT I FEEL I MUST STUDY AND LEARN AS THERE ARE SO MANY LOST SOULS TO BE SAVED. THEY DO NOT KNOW ANY OF THIS AND SOME ARE STILL REJECTING THE BIRTH AND DEATH OF OUR LORD JESUS.

Jack Wellman January 14, 2013 at 11:33 am

Amen Mrs. Armour. I truly feel more compelled to evangelize with each and every passing day for God has not appointed those who put their trust in Christ to His wrath. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. Thank you.

ron January 14, 2013 at 4:56 pm

The deceived, those who do not understand who the Abomination of Desolation / harlot is will go through the tribulation. Very good, decent, pious, yet deceived Christians will be spared nothing. The deception itself is the mark on the forehead, and because of it, lending a hand to this beast. Christ pointed them out clearly. This deception WILL cost Christians dearly, IS costing them dearly, HAS cost them dearly already. Only the truth will set you free. The truth is God’s Chosen People are rejectors of Christ, anti-Christ then and now, under no new covenant, and fitting the description to a tee, including exalting themselves equal to God. It gets rather simple when you take Jesus at His word. Mystery Babylon is apostate Jerusalem. They were cut-off as a nation, and still are. The fig tree was a WARNING. The Abomination of Desolation (as concise as Latin) is the tradeers/moneychangers who got this name when they rejected Christ , and were cut off, at the time Jesus took away the daily sacrifice. The five husbands at Jacob’s well are Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and David. The sixth, not her husband, was Jesus. In Revelation 17-10, the five kings/mountains that have fallen are Adan, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and David. One is– this the sixth also — is Jesus again. The seventh is the Anti-Christ. But wait, there’s an eighth, of the seven…..this is the harlot/merchant/Abomination that maketh Desolate, the Jews, who were God’s Chosen People when the elected service, but the repudiation of the service is a renunciation of the election. The Babylonian Talmud codified a “new law”, not a new covenant, and that new law is the Lex Merchant trade law, moneychanging, banking, lieing, stealing, murdering and blaspheming everything holy. And Christians who support Israel, will get her portion…”Come out of her my people” Rev 18-4

Robert January 14, 2013 at 8:23 pm

Wow, Jack,
How could a Christian NOT be motivated toward the saving of souls when faced with a future that looks like that? Thanks for the wake up call, once again, my friend.
Yours in Christ,
Robert

Jack January 15, 2013 at 10:21 am

Hey, Pastor Jack, perhaps you could name your next article, “Should Christians Masturbate? Is it a Sin?” Just thought I’d give you an idea since I’m a Christian myself 😀

Jack Wellman January 15, 2013 at 12:30 pm

Hello Jack. Thanks for the suggestion. This subject is actually covered in the article “How to Overcome an Addiction to Pornography” and in the many comments you see that we address it. Christians should not do this because it is sin. Why? Because it is lusting in the heart and lusting in the heart is said to be the same as sexual immorality by Jesus. Thanks for the great idea Jack. Read more at this link below on this subject:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-overcome-an-addiction-to-pornography-help-for-struggling-christians/

Steven (Macaulay) January 16, 2013 at 11:25 am

Regarding ” the Tribulation”, earthquakes are caused by many things,internal stresses resulting from tectonic plate movement, asteroid and comet impacts, and “flybys” that don’ t actually impact Earth. Remember comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, it disintegrated into 21 pieces BEFORE it contacted Jupiter, because of internal stresses caused by Jupiter’s immense gravity field. A “flyby” from a very large extraterrestial object just may cause similar effects on Earth, thereby creating THAT horrific earthquake, the likes of which have never been experienced before on Earth.And, then one has to contemplate WHERE that object came (is coming) from, AND WHY!!

Jack January 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Thank you, Pastor Jack. Isn’t it weird that we both have the same first names? 😀 Btw, I tried to find the part that covered masturbation, but I couldn’t find it. Could you perhaps give me a little tip? Thank you, and i appreciate the help 😉

Jack January 16, 2013 at 12:16 pm

Oh, and i meant to say ‘clue’, not tip. Soz.

Jack Wellman January 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm

Your so welcome Jack. Perhaps me liking your name shows a little vanity in me. LOL

Anyway, the same things that pertain to helping people overcome an addiction to pornography is the same principle for it is in the heart where sin begins. First with temptation, then when temptation is not resisted, it gives birth to sin, then in the mind the sin becomes fully blown. It is in the heart Jesus said that we can lust and that is equal to adultery in His words, not mine. I know that this is not exactly the same thing as being addicted to porn or have an adulterous affair, but the ways to overcome it are similar. I know that this was not specifically mentioned and so I may keep this in mind for a future article.

Paul also struggled mightily with sin even after conversion if that encourages you any. Read Romans 7 and see what I mean but in verse 25 there is a joyful conclusion he reaches.

Jack January 16, 2013 at 1:41 pm

Oh, NOW I get it! Thank you so much!! I realize what you were talking about now 😀

Jack January 16, 2013 at 1:44 pm

And another thing, I’m in the UK, so my comments are being posted in the evening. Greetings from a quarter of the world away! 😀

Jack Wellman January 17, 2013 at 11:49 am

Thanks Jack. May God richly bless you on your walk toward sanctification my friend.

Jack January 17, 2013 at 2:01 pm

May the Lord bless you as well 😀 After all, he DID help you turn from disaster to pastor ^_^

John January 19, 2013 at 6:37 am

“Jesus’ took the wrath of God for us.”

man killed the Son of man(very man, very God)
the rejected King
God did not kill God

the passover lamb…,
was held ransom,…(buy a captive’s freedom)
paid our debt…

“Propitiation means the turning away of wrath by an offering. In relation to soteriology, propitiation means placating or satisfying the wrath of God by the atoning sacrifice of Christ.”
Charles C. Ryrie (1999-01-11). Basic Theology: A Popular Systematic Guide to Understanding Biblical Truth (Kindle Locations 5503-5504). Moody Publishers. Kindle Edition.

sean January 19, 2013 at 8:03 am

i didnt see anything about the bowls of wrath, i look at the trib as a boiling pot of water, the impurities come to the top and get scraped off, then the water is clean. then i see us taken out of here (raptured) so the bowls of wrath can be poured out, because we are not the object of Gods wrath…what say u pastor Jack? im not sure where u stand on this.

Jack Wellman January 19, 2013 at 11:30 am

Thank you Sean. I see that you are right. I did mention part of Revelation chapter 16 where the bowls of wrath are poured out. Great point. I apologize. When I wrote this I saw that I would not be able to write a comprehensive article about the Tribulation because there are so many verses but I see that I should have at least included Revelation 16:1-17 instead of just the last portion of Revelation 16. I stand corrected. Thank you sir.

sean January 19, 2013 at 12:09 pm

Accually I wasn’t trying to correct u, but rather see where u stood on timing. Some say it doesn’t mater wether a person believes in pre post or mid trib rapture, but I believe it is important. I dont allow myself to be taught by those that are not of like mind, I know what im rooted in and prefer that teaching. From what I’ve read could go in diferant directions, and I slightly understand why a teacher would leave it up to the reader to make there own mind but it will tell me allot about you to know your direction. Personally im more a mid tribber because were not objects of Gods wrath, but on the other hand Noah was also delivered or kept in the tribulations of his day, just as Israel was in Egypt.

Gracious Chavula January 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

Pastor Jack, my prayer for you is that May Good Lord keep you safe, give you long life and protect you from all the enemys traps,in Jesus Name.
Man of God, you are doing a very big job in this world. You are teaching what a person OUGHT to know before the Lord’s Coming. This is the return for judgement.
Anyone who has read your articles and happens to have been disappointed, I guess is not in the family of belivers. There is absolute life in whatever you teach. So rich. May the Almighty God continue to lead you in all truth. May the Holy Spirit continue giving you more insights.
I wanted to ask for one thing. Do you mind asking someone who may have come to seek more information about salvation,if he/she would want to receive Christ? As their could be no one to minister to the person soon after learning the truth from you. because I feel some people wish they came to Jesus out right. It may even be too late for them to click on come to Jesus link.
If you don’t ming man of God.

Jack Wellman January 22, 2013 at 11:13 am

Gracious, you are far to kind to me in your words and better than I deserve, surely. Now, about anyone wanting to come to Christ to put their trust in them, I would be glad if anyone would click on “Contact” so that they can communicate directly to me. I consider it a privilege to share the gospel with anyone. As long as a person is drawing breath, there is still yet hope that they might be saved. I would do anything to help them come to a belief in Jesus Christ as Savior. Direct anyone you wish to have me be of service. I am a slave to our Lord and King, Jesus Christ.

MARK OFORI NYARKO January 25, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Oh write my name Jesus Christ my saviour, in your book of life.
help me to make my calling and election sure.
help me to remain steadfast in your name.

Nathan Filyk January 31, 2013 at 8:43 am

I personally believe Christians will suffer in the tribulation but they will not suffer God’s wrath. Some people might call this mid-trib, but I prefer to use the nomenclature “pre-wrath.” IMHO More than likely, we will be killed in the tribulation than raptured before the wrath, because of the persecution that is coming.

Jack Wellman January 31, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Nathan and Sean…I agree. During the plagues in Egypt, Israel had to go through at least the first few plagues and I believe that Christians will have to go thru much but yes, God has not appointed us to His wrath. Personally, I am not fully persuaded about the rapture. My thinking is that we must be ready, at all times, at any given moment, for our Lord can come in the twinkling of an eye.

Cynthia July 27, 2013 at 9:14 pm

I have also seen teaching and believe scripture supports a “mid-trib” or, as you put it, a “pre-wrath” rapture. What that means is that at the time of the opening of the first seal we will know the anti-christ because of the peace treaty with Israel in which he is primarily instrumental. Because God has provided us with this knowledge, we will recognize him for who he is. There will only be a brief time of peace and a scant opportunity to prepare for the full unleashing of persecution on the Christians after he declares himself to be God. I believe there will be thousands upon thousands of Christians martyred in the name of Jesus and teaching a “pre-trib” rapture sadly leaves them unprepared for that. There are already Christians being beheaded for their faith in other countries and the war on Christianity in our own country is picking up steam. So many Christians these days seem to be lolling around in their lives thinking they just need to be ready to take that awesome flight into the clouds with Jesus, not realizing that before that day comes, they may have to endure torture and murder for their faith from a satan-run society.

Jack Wellman July 27, 2013 at 9:38 pm

Thank you Cynthia. I believe that many pastors and teachers are also going to be attacked by their own governments in the sense of preaching sin in the Bible but the authorities labeling it as “hate crimes”, like has already occurred in Canada. As the day nears, we will be persecuted more often and more severely. I do agree that we are too Laodicean as we are but the fires test that which is truly wheat and may separate the tares.

sean January 31, 2013 at 9:26 am

That’s what I was thinkin also, Nathan

Jack Wellman January 31, 2013 at 12:23 pm

I’m with Nathan on this too Sean. Thanks brother. We three seem to be on the same page.

sean January 31, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Yup Jack I kinda thought u sounded like that.

denise recchia September 1, 2013 at 7:09 pm

I was thrilled to read your definition of the Tribulation. I just finished reading Dr. David Jeremiah’s book “What in the World is going on?” I am a true believer in Jesus Christ and I had a question after reading the book which you answered for me. I was not sure if any christians would be in the tribulation since I knew we would be in the Rapture. However, you stated that their would be some, however they would have to die in the tribulation to be saved. Thank you for your answer. God Bless you and your web site!!!

Jack Wellman September 1, 2013 at 7:31 pm

What kind words Denise. I really appreciate that. I have a great deal of respect for Dr. David Jeremiah. I know that the Bible has so many mysteries that we have not yet understood but one day will see more clearly. Please do come back again my friend.

Kennedy October 21, 2013 at 3:25 am

Hello Pastor Jack. I just read this article and appreciate your thoughts on Bible prophecy. What I have learned though is quite a bit different. Perhaps you can comment on it.
I believe that God’s people will be around during the great tribulation, but they will be kept safe by His angels. Although the seven last plagues will not fall on them, they will have a trying time as well making sure that they are right with God (Everyone will have made their decisions and probation will be have closed). Just prior to this close of probation, God’s people will be empowered to give the world a final warning and plead with all who would to take their stand on the Lord’s side and keep His commandments. The message will be clear and convincing. So no one will have an excuse to reject it. All who do will do so at their loss of their souls. The 4th commandment (Sabbath) will be the focus of the tribulation. Sunday sacredness, having been observed these past centuries, will come up as a legislative decree. All who oppose it will be hunted down, imprisoned, and ultimately condemned to death for keeping the true Sabbath. they will be accused as the cause of the disasters. But God will protect them. (Martyrdoms will not be necessary because everyone will have made their final decisions). When the wicked set a date to exterminate all God’s people who keep His commandments and not the worlds, then Christ will come and deliver His people and take them home. (Which will be a glorious event).

Jack Wellman October 21, 2013 at 8:35 am

Thank you Kennedy. I know that today we see thru a glass darkly and we do not know what the future holds. You may very well be right on the mark with what you have written. I feel that my conclusion on the whole matter is that we should all stay focused on Christ during these times ahead. Indeed, Christians could be in for some very terrible times ahead but if we keep our eyes on Christ we won’t start to sink in the storm as Peter did. Peter had trouble only when he took his eyes off of Jesus. I pray I do in these troublesome times Kennedy. Thank you for such great insight.

Angie December 18, 2013 at 9:24 pm

Dear Pastor, Do you believe the world will be given a sign before Christ comes for His people? I have 4 children who are young adults. They are saved, but I do not believe they are living a repentant life. I pray for them every day. Can you please let me know your thoughts? Thank You

Jack Wellman December 18, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Angie, thank you so much for our question. First off, many godly mothers have prayed for years and finally their children came to trust in Christ so I thank God that there are such mothers like you out there praying for their children.

Now, to answer your question, there is nothing that we need to expect or wait for as for any signs that happen just before Christ retunrs that signal that His return is next. I believe that to wait for a signal and then people may repent will be too late for them, sadly. Many are doing just that and this is so dangerous and their eternal fate is in jeopardy. If your children have never repented, then they would not be saved for there is nothing in prophecy that yet needs to happen that precedes Jesus’ return and He could return tonight or at any moment. I would warn your children that if they are not living a repentant life, which I believe even Christians should confess their sins daily, then anyone who is not living such a life right now…and Christ returns, then they are not truly saved. Here is what I recommend. Pray for them, beg God to send the Holy Spirit to convict them of their sins and that they would confess them, and see their need for the Savior and then to trust in Christ. If they don’t do this or haven’t yet, they are not saved. Here is an article that maybe you could print out to them and send them or send them the link about evidence that a person is saved or not. Matthew 7:21-23 is a very scary verse that they should know about. Here is the article link. Click on this and I too will pray for them. It asks: How can you be sure that you are a Christian? Here are 10 true Christian traits or ways that you can rest assured that you have the Holy Spirit inside of you.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/10-ways-to-know-you-are-a-christian/

Here is exactly how someone can be saved today: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-steps-do-i-take-to-become-a-christian/

Also, finally, here is a sermon that has a Lukewarm Christian Checklist that they might rather watch than read an article at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Bv_jdsxu8

Emmanuel K Sanni October 1, 2014 at 10:20 am

Understanding of the End-time and Greta Tribulation.

Emmanuel K Sanni October 1, 2014 at 10:21 am

Understanding the end-time

Brad December 6, 2014 at 4:12 am

I still don’t get this rapture business. I was taught this same thing my whole life, but then I started reading the bible, and it just seems so plainly obvious that there is no pre-tribulation rapture. Even with this famous verse of 1 Thessalonians 4:17, just before that in verse 16 it says,

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

So that’s pretty clear that Jesus is not coming to claim anyone until you hear the trump. Now in Revelations, it says that these trump happen well into the tribulation, even at the end. Furthermore, in Matthew 24 Jesus himself is talking about the Great Tribulation and how he will not return until AFTER:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense would understand after reading that, that Jesus will not come to gather his elect from the four winds til AFTER the great tribulation.

I would love it if you could give me a straight forward common sense answer to how this pre-tribulation rapture theory makes any sense at all. Where does it say that Christians will not go through it?
I think that in telling people about the rapture theory, that you are subjecting them to a lie, and when the anti-Christ appears, many of these people will be fooled into thinking its Jesus, because hey… they were told they’d get raptured before he ever appeared. Its a dangerous business this rapture theory. It says right in the bible that even many believers will be fooled and deceived.
This just opens the door.
Please everyone that takes the time to read this. You will know Jesus by the fruit of his works. If you are fooled into thinking that Jesus is coming back before the tribulation begins, you will know it is not him because he will force everyone to worship his image in the Temple and will cause everyone to receive the mark. If this happens, and it will, it CAN NOT be Jesus. It is the anti-Christ.
Be smart everyone and pray for wisdom. Do not just believe things because you were told them. Pick up a bible and read it for yourself and you’ll KNOW that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture.
God bless.

Jack Wellman December 6, 2014 at 10:00 am

Thank you Brad for your words of wisdom. I too have the same feelings about the rapture and there are so many different views on it but I want to direct you to an article I wrote specifically about this topic and especially take care to read my conclusion. I believe we are on the same page her friend so please check this out and see if you and I are of the same mind in my conclusion of this article at: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-rapture-a-look-at-the-different-views/

Ross Barrett September 16, 2016 at 9:23 am

Sorry brother but Christians will go through the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation isn’t Gods Wrath. It’s before the bowl judgments. Rev 6:11 “And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.” There are clearly “fellowservants” being killed during and after the fifth seal. We all know Matthew 24:22 The shortening of those days. What would you call those days. 21st versu of Matthew, Jesus use’s “thlipsis.” Affliction or Tribulation.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.”
The man of sin is revealed..
Daniel 7:25 “He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.”
Saints given to him.
You better prepare for the Tribulation!

Niki Wright November 13, 2016 at 6:55 pm

I am finding it rather hard to breath as I read about the tribulation. My heart feels heavy and I am scared. I feel as though I am not as close to the Lord as I should be. I fear for my daughter and family just as much. I suffer from terrible anxiety. The thought of going through pain, suffering, death, and torture is more than enough to keep me in a state of panic and anxiety. Please help me.

Jack Wellman November 13, 2016 at 7:17 pm

Hello Niki and thank you for your comment. Most scholars believe that Christians will not go thru the Tribulation, while some other scholars believe it came with the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70. The Bible is clear that God has not appointed His wrath and righteous indignation on believers (1 Thessalonians 5:9) because He Who knew no sin was made sin for us (2 Corinthians 5:21). If you are a believer, then God will never leave you or forsake you, no matter how bad it gets. I would speak with your pastor about this. Have you ever thought about talking to him? Who says we are to go thru torture, suffering, and death? Many do not understand that the Book of Revelation is not written is time order or chronological order because the chapters do not exactly progress in the same order.

Lee December 12, 2017 at 8:18 pm

It seems to me that the rapture is actually the first resurrection, and not a separate occurrence, from the first return of Christ

Jack Wellman December 12, 2017 at 8:21 pm

Thank you Lee. I believe the things Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24 have already happened, particularly with the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. I am not waiting for any rapture. I am waiting on my Lord to return. Either way, we all have differences of opinion on the rapture just like we do the tribulation and the time of the rapture or whether there’s even a rapture at all, but that doesn’t mean we divide. Instead of focusing on the rapture, let us focus of Christ or we’ll sink like Peter did in the stormy seas because he took His eyes off Christ. May we all be ready for His return at any given moment, or as the Apostle John wrote, “so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming” (1st John 2:28). Whether you believe in the rapture or not is not the important issue. What is important is that you decide today, if you haven’t already done so, to place your trust in Christ because “Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose trust is the LORD” (Jer 17:7) “For the scripture says, Whosoever believes on him shall not be put to shame” (Rom 10:11).

Gordon ward March 26, 2018 at 8:17 pm

Very well point, only word that bothered me is the word ‘ rapture’. I understand the point, yet there are so many misled because of the writings of another writer of novels, teaching a Secret Rapture, which is unbiblical…there will be nothing secret when christ calls us home …

Randal Hatfield June 30, 2019 at 11:39 am

I disagree a little over your statement “Most Bible scholars believe Christians will not go through the tribulation.” In reality, in the big picture, that concept is a minority view. Fundamentalists believe that, but the larger group of Christian scholars don’t.

Jack Wellman June 30, 2019 at 4:44 pm

Thank you Mr. Hatfield.





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