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Jaime peralez August 29, 2017 at 4:50 pm

Thank you brother . Another great read.

Jack Wellman August 29, 2017 at 5:20 pm

Thank you very kindly Mr. Peralez.

Tony Tan August 30, 2017 at 2:17 am

i believe there is no such teachings in the bible about essentials and non essentials. all scriptures, the 66 books are inspired and infallible Word of God. therefore, we must be fearful in our study of the Word of our Lord.

Jack Wellman August 30, 2017 at 8:06 am

Thank you Mr. Tan. There are essentials like the divinity of Christ, the sinlessness of Jesus, and His death and resurrection. We must believe this or we cannot be saved but things like unclean foods, tithing, and such are non-essential, so we cannot follow those things that are not done away with by Christ’s death of the cross.

Tony Tan August 30, 2017 at 11:09 am

Since the subject is about apostasy, I believe all teachings of our Lord are “essentials”. The bible only teaches that we should “fearfully” follow the commandments of our Lord but not the commandments of men. This means all commandments.
As you already know in 1 Timothy 6:3-4 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions.
I think an example of warning on the teachings of men is mentioned in Colossians 2:16, Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day.
If we differentiate essentials and non essentials (which BTW is not taught in the bible that we can segregate God’s words or command into such category), I believe this will give in to “teachings of men” and as such, an open invitation to apostasy.

Jack Wellman August 30, 2017 at 11:39 am

Thank you sir. What I could narrow it down is to mean some believe in the coming rapture, others don’t. Some believe in a mid-trib rapture, others don’t. Some believe one person in particular is the beast, others don’t, so do you think the rapture is essential to believe in? What of those who don’t believe in it? What is some worship on Saturday and some on Sunday. Is it essential to one’s salvation if they don’t keep the other day? Are they in danger of falling into apostasy if they don’t keep a Saturday Sabbath or believe in the rapture? Are they in apostasy? I do agree that the teachings of men can lead to apostasy but we cannot make all things essential in the Bible because the Old Testament commandments are not all for us, like the dietary, sacrifices, and such. See my point sir?

Tony Tan August 30, 2017 at 8:41 pm

Thank you for taking time to reply. The topic about rapture will take up many space here.
I am just borrowing the term you used “as essentials” and do not mean everything is essential as this is not taught in the bible.

I am just trying to make a point that the commandments of God should not be classified as essential and non essentials. A commandment/law of God is a commandment/law from God.

In Romans 2: We are commanded to do good continually, this means a real Christian cannot be living in sin unrepentantly.

6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.

12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.

Jason Githeko February 18, 2019 at 9:42 am

Every believer needs to because that “the Elijah who comes” is walking on the earth, preparing for the coming of the MESSIAH, and preaching repentance, righteousness, Holiness, the blood and the cross of CHRIST. It’s a fearful time to live.

Jack Wellman February 18, 2019 at 10:05 am

Hello Jason. I thought “Elijah” did come as John the Baptist, although his a different person, he came to prepare the way for Jesus 2,000 years ago, so why do you say Elijah “is walking on the earth?”

Colton June 30, 2020 at 11:22 am

I was born again in 2010z I fear that I may have become apostate. I was badly deceived by a false Christ cult like group in 2013 and ended up with unclean spirits and I was delivered from one of the main ones last year but I feel like my heart is far from God. Once I realized it was a deception I ran from God and lived recklessly my heart hardened I felt like I was rejected by God and it made me run from Him and gratify my flesh. It’s the most horrifying and terrifying thing I’ve ever experienced I hope I’m not too far gone

Jack Wellman June 30, 2020 at 11:39 am

Hello Colton. No one is ever so bad that they cannot be saved, just as there is no one so good they don’t have to be saved. It is not too late Colton. I am praying for you right now sir. Don’t lose hope. The Prodigal could still return to the father and for the father, it was never too late to have his son saved. Romans 5:6-10 shows that we are all standing on the same ground at the cross…and it’s level ground for us all. God desires you to trust in His Son and be saved. Call your pastor or one near you and join with the body to do what He has called us to do (Matt 25:35-36) as unto Him (Mtt 25:40). To do nothing for Him is a bad sign (Matt 25:41-46).

Jack Wellman August 30, 2017 at 9:09 pm

I would never classify God’s Commandments as non-essential, but the Mosaic Laws and things like this or the differing beliefs, so yes, I think we are in agreement. We do know that Paul is referring to the Ten Commandments and not the Mosaic Law, however I do believe it includes sexual immorality and men with men, women with women, etc. Thank you sir.

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