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Gianeliz Rivera October 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm

Thank you so much. This helped me try to understand if my parents shouldn’t force me to go to church. To be honest, I wasn’t completely satisfied about your answer at first, but then I had to take it in and accept it. I really needed this message, thank you.

Jack Wellman October 5, 2017 at 5:10 pm

Thank you for the encouragement and may God richly bless you Gianeliz.

Lance October 9, 2017 at 10:15 pm

Jack – I’ve read a couple of your posts and have a question for you about church attendance.

The Greek word “kuriakos” or church only show’s up in the New Testament twice while “ekklesia” – which correctly translated means a “body or gathering of select people” appears in the New Testament approximately 115 times and was recorded as the exact words Christ spoke when talking about His people and His following.

King James made fifteen specific edicts pertaining to the Biblical translations of the KJV, and one of those edicts (edict number three) stated that this Bible was to use the word “church” in the translation and not the word “gathering.” Some speculate this edict was for greater control over the physical property.

So if a Christian is attending a regular gathering of other believers, say a small group, while also praying, worshiping, and reading the Bible on their own, is there really a need to attend a corporate Sunday “Church?”

Jack Wellman October 10, 2017 at 1:24 pm

Hello Lance. Do you take communion or visit the sick, the poor. clothe the naked, and so on (Matt 25:34-40)? Do you have church discipline and the sacraments and go out to share the gospel and make disciples of all nations (Matt 28:18-20). Most small groups do few of these things….besides, we cannot forsake the assembling of ourselves as is the manner of some. Why don’t you like gathering with the church? What troubles you about meeting together in a sacred assembly?

Liz May 5, 2018 at 11:44 pm

Hi my 14 year old daughter wants nothing to do with God.. she says being a Christian is Ruining her life. She has moved away from her Christian friend at church who is home school (Grace is in public school) she is listening to worldly music which she never did until she attended secondary. She’s been brought up as a Christian though me and my husband only found God in our late 30s just after having her, we to have been on a journey with God. It breaks my heart to watch my daughters personality change from happy to very sullen as she tries to fit in with her peers. I have Christian plaques which she wants me to take down so her “friends” van come round which I don’t mind however she says they ask questions and this makes her very uncomfortable. She was so sensitive to the Holy Spirit before she went to big school now she doesn’t want Jesus ..I am heart broken. I be been struggling to get her to church and she’s has become very lazy she no longer wants to attend and refuses to go. I keep praying and looking up stuff .. nothing is clear.. I’ve made her go to church but she seems to resent it even more and this scares me as it am I doing the right thing.

Jack Wellman May 6, 2018 at 5:39 pm

Hello Liz. I am so very sorry for your daughter’s personality change. You cannot take these Christian plaques down as you know, so that tells me she is hostile to Christ and the things of God. She may have never truly been saved because a person who lives this way over a period of time doesn’t seem to have what the Bible calls, the love of God (read 1 John chapter 3). I am praying right after I post this because only God can change her heart (Prov 21:1), so other than making her suffer privileges lost, like phone, Internet, video games, or whatever, you cannot do much else. Most children who become adults appreciate them bring them to church, but you cannot base your decision on how she feels. If she is 16, she may have a legal right not to go (depending on the state) but at 14, she is not an adult & cannot make those decisions. I would see if she would go with you for counseling. Probably not, but just love her, but be firm, and stand your ground. If she sees you and your husband cave in on this (no church, no Christian plaques), then that lets her know she can change your mind by her behavior, and so her behavior rules the home and not her parents. It’s hard, but we must be the parents.

Joe Bigliogo March 26, 2020 at 8:13 pm

Here is some advice from an atheist perspective, Matt Dillahunty’s to be specific. He says go to church as your parents ask. While there listen carefully and take lots of notes. List all the things you most object to and after church… proceed to ask lots of questions and if the answers are not satisfying… question the answers. After some time your parents may give up asking you to attend. if not the knowledge you gain about the beliefs can help you defend against various apologists and other obnoxious Christians in their attempts to impose this iron age messianic belief system on you.

Jack Wellman March 26, 2020 at 8:33 pm

By your own words you are juding those you accuse of doing the same thing, worshiping an “iron age messianic belief system” but you are imposing your own belief system, and that is there is no God. Something you cannot ever prove but do not believe in. Children are under their parents for good reason until they are adult and their parents are responsible for the before God and before society. Your own labeling (obnoxious Christians) has made your argument full of duplicity. Even so, I am glad you commented. Christians need to see both sides.

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