What Is Numerology? Is It Biblical?

by Jack Wellman on March 2, 2013 · Print Print · Email Email

What is biblical numerology? Does God assign meaning to certain numbers He put in the Bible?  If so, is it biblical?

Numerology Definition

Numerology is what Bible scholars believe is the placing of meaning on numbers in the Scriptures.  There is said to be numerical values in the numbers in the Pentateuch or what is known as the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. Numerology is by no means restricted to the Old Testament but is said to be found throughout the Bible – from Genesis to Exodus.  Numerology attempts to explain the meaning of these numbers to see what God may be telling us by using them and the interpretation of them relating to the Scriptures or verses where they found.  Examples are the numbers three, six, seven, and ten, but there are more. Numbers are thought to be symbolic of the sovereignty of God and so let‘s take a look at certain numbers and their meanings.

The Number One

The number one is a number of unity or absolute singleness.  Deuteronomy 6:4 says, The Lord our God is One.”  God is one God in Three Persons, but still One God.  This is difficult to wrap our minds around and a hard concept to explain but that is why God is infinite and the finite mind can not comprehend all of God.

The Number Three

The number three is important in the Bible.  In the first place, there are three Persons in the Holy Trinity:  The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  Each member is equally God and no less God than the other Members of the Trinity.  God is Three in Essence.  God is three also in that He is omnipresent (present everywhere at the same time), omnipotent (all powerful), and omniscient (all knowing), therefore three is seen as the number of divine perfection or holiness.  God also knows that past, the present, and the future and He abides in all of these.

Three was also the number of major feast seasons for Israel in ancient times (Exodus 23:14-19). There are three times of daily prayer (Daniel 6; Psalms 55:17).  There was even a special sacrifice of animals that were three years old (Genesis 15:9).   Also of great importance, Jesus was resurrected after three days and three nights and why He said that if they destroyed this temple (meaning His body), He would be raised in three days (John 2:19).  His earthly ministry took place in roughly three years and that was the number of years of Jesus training of the disciples.

The Number Four

Most people may not be aware of the significance of the number four in the Bible but there are said to be four corners of the earth (Isaiah 11:2), there were four dominant kingdoms mentioned in Daniel’s prophecy (Daniel 7:3), there are four seasons on the earth, there are four major directions on the earth (north, south, east, and west), and there were even four types of soil in the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13).  There were also four pillars in the Temple.

The Number Six

The number six can be seen as representative of mankind since humans were created on the sixth day (Genesis 1:31).  Mankind was commanded to work for six days that were given in the Fourth Commandment.  The number six is also seen as a number of imperfection since man was created on it, six days is an imperfect week, and the perfect evil can be seen in the number of man, 666 (Revelation 13:18), a sort of unholy trinity.  There were six cities of refuge given to the Levites for those who killed or caused great harm accidentally to others; these were places for them to take refuge (Numbers 35:6). God established these cities so that family members would not retaliate against them for the harm they inflicted upon them by accident or not intentionally.

The Number Seven

Seven is symbolic of a totality of perfection or completeness ...

Seven is symbolic of a totality of perfection or completeness …

The number of seven appears to be the number of perfection since the earth was created in seven days, regardless of the fact that God rested on the seventh day.  Rest is still doing something and the seventh day is a day of rest and we are told to work six days and rest on a seventh day.  Seven is symbolic of a totality of perfection or completeness like the seven-day week.

The Book of Revelation is big on the number seven, there were:

  • seven bowls of wrath,
  • seven seals,
  • seven churches,
  • seven trumpets, and
  • seven spirits.

This pictures God’s complete and totally perfect judgment of the inhabitants of the earth, in particular those who are not under the atoning sacrifice of Jesus and have not had the wrath of God removed from them because of their rejecting Him as Savior.  Even the Tribulation is said to last seven years.

The Number Eight

The number eight appears, interestingly, to be symbolic of victory. Consider circumcision was to be done on the eighth day and eight people were saved inside the ark that Noah built. The number eight has significantly less numerical meaning to most Bible scholars.

The Number Nine

Again, most Bible scholars see no major significance to the number nine other than there are nine fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22-24, although I do not believe that this is a complete list of all of the fruit of the Spirit.

The Number Ten

The number ten relates to human governments and laws. There are Ten Commandments given to mankind (Exodus 20),  there were ten elders in most of the city gates (Ruth 4:2), and the Northern Kingdom of Israel consisted of ten tribes (1 Kings 11)

The Number Twelve

The number twelve clearly implies the number of governmental perfection and this number relates to God’s divine authority or sovereignty.  There were twelve tribes of Israel, there were twelve disciples and later apostles (counting Paul), there are multiple groups of twelve in Ezekiel‘s description of the construction of the heavenly temple (Ezekiel  48), there were twelve foundations, twelve angels, and twelve gates in the New Jerusalem Temple.  The walls of the Temple had twelve foundations and there the twelve names were written of the twelve apostles (Revelation 21:14).

The Number Thirty

This is a number that is associated with sorrow or fasting.  It represents affliction as Aaron was mourned for 30 days (Numbers 20:29) as was Moses (Deuteronomy 34:8), and Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Matthew 27:3-5).

The Number Forty

This number is clearly a number that is associated with testing and trials.  For example,

  • it rained 40 days and 40 nights during the flood (Genesis 7:4),
  • Israel wandered for 40 years in the Wilderness for their disobedience and unbelief (Numbers 14:33),
  • Moses went up into the clouds on Mount Sinai and was there 40 days and 40 nights, and
  • most importantly, Jesus was in the Wilderness for the great temptation and fasted 40 days and 40 nights before He was tempted of Satan (Matthew 4:2).

You see many applications of the number 40 in the Bible but it is almost always associated with severe trials and a time of testing.

The Number Fifty

This number is significant to the Jews. It is the year of Jubilee when liberty was proclaimed to those who were indebted to others, for those who had been forced to sell themselves into slavery for their inability to pay their debts, and when land and property was returned to their original owners (Leviticus 25:10).  The Feast of Pentecost was also celebrated on the 50th day after Passover (Leviticus 23:15-16) and was the day that the church of Jesus Christ was founded (Acts 2).  It is significant that it was 50 days after Jesus Christ’s resurrection that the Holy Spirit came to those in the church for the first time.  Prior to this the Holy Spirit, like in the Old Testament, was with certain people, but at Pentecost, the Holy Spirit could actually dwell within the believers.

The Number Seventy

Finally, the number 70 seems to be associated with human justice, judgment, and human delegations of authority.  For example, there were 70 elders in Israel that helped to make judgments and were rulers (Numbers 11:16), there were 70 elders that Ezekiel saw in the House of Israel (Ezekiel 8:11), and speaking of judgment, 70 years was the number of years that Israel spent in captivity by the Babylonians (Jeremiah 29:10).

Conclusion

What are we to make of these numbers?  God is trying to tell us something in the Bible about His sovereignty.  He is sovereign over all, He rules over all the earth, His perfect will can not be changed or frustrated, and like the Year of Jubilee (50), His desire is that you would be set free.  Free from the penalty of yours sins.  You can be free from the wrath of God and be at peace with God (1 Corinthians 5:21) if you would only place your trust in Jesus Christ to save you (Romans 10:9-13) because there is no other way that you must be saved (Acts 4:12).  Please read the final numbers that really count and the number can not really be counted by human reasonings.  Revelation 20:11-15 says,

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

When your number is up (at death) and you did not put your trust in Christ, then your fate is sealed and your name will not be in the Book of Life.  It will be too late at that time so I beg you to consider putting your trust in Jesus Christ to save you…do it today, while it is still called “today” (2 Corinthians 6:2) and you will be numbered among the children of God for all eternity.

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Godlove March 2, 2013 at 6:23 am

Great article
I was just wondering a few months ago about knowing the meaning of the numbers in the Bible
Thank you for the list.

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Jack Wellman March 2, 2013 at 11:08 am

Thank you so much my friend. I was astonished when putting this together. These are no coincidences for God has meanings for numbers. Since the number 12 is that divine authority, consider the fact that Jesus’ raised from the dead a 12-year-old girl, and healed a woman who had an issue (and incurable) disease for 12 years. That signifies to me that Jesus had divine authority to heal for He was God!

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eman March 2, 2013 at 5:46 pm

Hi. My daughter is 15 and she has been saved for a couple of years now. She is starting to ask more and more challenging questions and your article was the perfect answer to the one about the numbers in the Bible ! Now I have the chance to share this with her and have a very meaningful conversation with my teen ! Thank you very much !

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Dereck March 3, 2013 at 8:07 am

Hi Jack’

Good article!! I got a book on numberology being used in the search of Love. The book was written by a woman by the name of Glynis McCants.

I was told that this book was demonic. So, I never read it. In fact, I was goimg to throw it away. I knew about the different numbers which are in the Word of God.

Tell me, Is thiis book wrong in how the author uses numbers and therefore I should stay away from it?

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Jack Wellman March 3, 2013 at 6:24 pm

I believe that Numerology tells us what the meaning is in Scripture of certain numbers and their sometimes additional meaning. The human version is very, very different and therefore evil. The Numerology that is not referring to the Bible is Numerology’s first and foremost purpose is to gain a better understanding of who you are, what you are made of, and what the future might hold for you.

For example, numerology of the world is pagan in origin and is a “Know thyself” philosophy and to these who adhere to it, it is a relevant a statement today as it was when Plato used it 2,500 years ago.

Traditionally, Numerologists, have always been mindful of the two different sides of your personal Numerology chart: your Personality Profile and your Future Forecast.

These deceived people are convinced that in order to have a clear understanding of their personal makeup and the path they are on, it would be considerably more insightful to look at your chart from three different angles, because that’s essentially how you exist: you, your life’s path, and your future.

Think of those three aspects as the pillars of your existence. First, there is you, the individual, with your talents, abilities, personality traits, idiosyncrasies, dreams, hopes, likes and dislikes, and what have you. All of which is revealed in your name. Your full name at birth truly is like a blueprint of who you are; the unique and fully self-contained individual who lives inside your skin.

See now that this is abhored by God? I already know myself and I am a wretch, a sinner, and humans have no business trying to discern the future by using numbers of the letters of their names. It is a tarot card type of belief that the future can be known, so please stay away from that. The numerology of the Bible is nothing like what you may think it is. I hope this cleared this up my friend.

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Dereck March 3, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Hi Jack,

It does clear things up and I will act accordingly. That book, I have right here and I will make sure it goes in the trash where it belongs!!!!

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Jack Wellman March 3, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Hey Dereck…to bad you don’t have a fireplace because it’d be good firestarter. Sadly, this woman is heading to the same fate. So how does McCants make all these predictions? According to her biography, she has been studying Numerology for 21 years using the Pythagoras Number system, which has been used since the 6th century. Numerology is the study of the mystical relationship between numbers and living things. The Pythagoras number system is believed to have come from Pythagoras, the father of the Pythagorean theorem.

According to McCants’ interview, Obama’s “Lifepath Number” is ’2′ and he is entering a “Personal Year Cycle” of ’5′. McCants found out his “Lifepath Number” by using this system posted on her website but she has misfired on the vast majority of her predictions. Now, if she’s so good…why didn’t she see that coming?! LOL

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Truth November 8, 2013 at 7:24 am

Hi Jack,
Thank you for this article it is an area that I believe teaching is needed. I understand that there are two dfferent types of numerology and from what I have heard preached on Christian TV there is a great deal of confusion on this topic. Whilst there is clear significance to some numers in scripture we need to rightly divide the word, I have heard a well known TV preacher say ‘sow a seed of £7.00 or $7.00 or multiples of seven if you want to receive a financial breakthrough’, he went on to use scripture to back up what he was saying but of course the idea that we give to God to receive rather than out of love and obedience to him is not Biblical. Neither is the idea that certain numbers have some magical quality and if we give say $35.00 we will receive a blessing that someone who only gave $34.00 won’t receive. There is a lack of understanding on this topic so I believe that when a preacher says something like 7 is the number of perfection but does not explain confusion is the result. Some believers will state that one year is going to be more prosperous than another based on the numbers in that year, this is not Biblical or will ‘decree’ a year is a year of Jubilee because in scripture God talks about Jubilee but when people do this they fail to interpret and apply scripture correctly.

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Jack Wellman November 8, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Thank you so much Truth. I believe what this article lacked you have so richly added and made it much better than it was alone. So true that when we falsely add numbers to our ideas and thoughts we rob glory from God and there is nothing greater than the three…as in the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Thank you so much my friend for your biblical wisdom here.

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Gold January 1, 2014 at 12:58 am

Hi Jack,

I am a Christian, and have been so for many years. I am with you on not believing things that are outside of the Bible’s teachings; however, the type of numerology–the “know thyself” type, seems to be really “spot on” regarding many of the characteristics of my life. I am not an easily fooled person. I surely don’t believe that looking at “my numbers” will allow me to solve all of life’s problems. I am aware of the way that horoscopes can trick people into thinking they are tailor-made for an individual, but are actually really vague, and could describe anyone. I TRULY believe that God is solely in control of all things. However, there seems to be a little something to some certain things of numerology. Do you think there is something to it, or is it mere coincidence?

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Jack Wellman January 1, 2014 at 10:17 am

Thank you Gold for your comment and question which you asked “. However, there seems to be a little something to some certain things of numerology. Do you think there is something to it, or is it mere coincidence?” Nothing that happens is outside of the sovereignty of God and so if numbers seem to tie into things in our life we can never ascribe to these numbers anything that is outside of the will of God. God alone is in charge of our lives, even though we have free will, there is no such thing as coincidence in my opinion for nowhere in the Bible do numbers tie into something that has happened or will happen. What do you mean by saying that “ there seems to be a little something to some certain things of numerology”? I am wondering what you mean by “some certain things.” Like what Gold?

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Gold January 9, 2014 at 7:59 pm

By “there seeems to be a little something to some certain things,” I meant that the descriptions, or characteristics seems to be spot on. Browsing and testing the “readings” I found that not all, but many of the descriptions pertaining to myself and a select few of my family members were quite accurate. I never give attention to the future-predicting parts of numerology because I don’t believe that anyone but God knows my future, except those given the knowledge by God. I merely browsed the “personality traits and characteristics” portions of numerology, and they seemed to fit very nicely with each of the 7 members of my family. It just seems to accurately to be a good, broad guess.

Jack March 5, 2013 at 11:49 am

Hello, Pastor Jack! It’s me again! :D Here in Britain, we have a lot of things that hapen in the news. I was wondering what your response would be to this news story:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/seven-army-barracks-hit-as-soldiers-move-into-clusters–but-scotland-complains-of-broken-promises-8521263.html
Wishing you well, Jack H

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Jack Wellman March 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Jack, this is quite interesting my friend. By the way, great to hear from you my friend. I see this as a deterioration of the military might in your nation and ours may be in similar works of a “draw down” of our military strength. A strong military is always a deterrent to international tyranny because negotiating peace from strength is always more effective than from a position of weakness. Hold on tight…the end seems swiftly approaching Jack and so looking up, we expect His return soon (not saying when). That day is a great day to look forward to when you and I and all the other brethren scattered across the globe can fellowship together, finally, in person!

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 9:19 pm

GOLD …..I am replying to that statement of GOLD HERE since it appears there is no reply at the bottom of their post …maybe tossed off??? But I felt it important to reply anyway.

The characteristics of personality or FLESH identified ‘mysteriously’ may be the work of ‘familiar spirits’ at work in those who write and speak of the significance of things like numbers, astrological signs, tea leaves, palm reading, I Ching…etc..

A fallen or evil spirit has been around since before man …is ‘familiar’ with man’s vulnerabilites and man’s various ‘histories..’ …they can ‘impersonate ‘ as in a seance….forbidden by GOD that any would consult such things….that goes also for the many avenues they USE to work their ‘magik’…including people who ‘open’ themselves up to such things and think they are ‘receiving a message from God”! Wrong GOD sorry! and thus the God who is the CREATOR and ALMIGHTY and ALL LOVING has commanded mankind to FLEE such things…to FILL UP on HIS WORD which will give you the ability to DISTINGUISH between what is OF GOD and what is NOT .

The devil is a liar ..and the ‘father of lies’ and a ‘deceiver’ thus trying to access any kind of knowledge from any other source other than the Bible through which we may be taught revealed wisdom by the Holy Spirit which we have through Jesus Christ is DANGEROUS …as well as a waste of time…it is a snare which natural man becomes entangled due to his curiosity and lust for godhood…or some kind of way to be ‘superior’ through the idea of gnosis….or ‘secret knowledge” known only to the “special few’ initiated into such ….

The true GOD is “not a respecter of persons’ but He does inform us of a protocol of HOW to enter into relationship with HIM …Through His only BEGOTTEN SON ..Jesus Christ the righteous ..the only one who ‘qualified ‘ to be Lord and Savior….by way of the Holy [separate and uniquely singular] scriptures we may have who the Father is ‘revealed’ as we submit to reading , and heeding that Word.

Luk 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

God did not choose numerology to ‘reveal’ Himself ..God chose HIS SON…and those who take heed to HIS Words…will have HIM REVEALED in them through HIS WORD.

Why do you want to be ‘fascinated’ by what “seems’ rather than invest in learning what IS …truth.

Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death

If you will submit to learning what the scriptures say about GOD and ask HIM to reveal to you what HE will …as you OBEY then you will soon learn the truth about Numerology and all other ‘dainties’ that the prince of the power of the AIR ‘ offer…whoopdeedoo…….’air’ and in the devils case it is all ‘hot air’ ….hahaha…soon enough he will be IN the HOTTEST of ‘air’ …YOU do NOT want to be a partaker in THAT !

Submit to GOD and become concerned about what GOD has offered you to learn from HIS God breathed word [2 Tim 3:16]

Many will not because it is ‘hard’ …because reading and study takes some ‘effort’ …beware of those things claiming to be ‘spiritual’ that are ‘easy’ and require little effort on your part to learn …the Word commends those who take what they hear or see and go to the scriptures to study to ‘see if it is so’ …like the Bereans.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

“Study’ is ‘spoudazo’ …to put forth much effort…and we are told to do so …daily.

Turn away from the ‘ear ticklers’ …get your FOUNDATION solid …and then you will know the truth about these things…and not waste time with them…

Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:

This appeal to the fleshly desire to ‘be like god’ worked since Genesis upon those who did not want to be submitted to GOD who is over all and made all things…it works by deception, cluelessness, and impressing people with signs and wonders rather than truth.

ALL such ways one may seek to determine anything are determined by GOD as ‘ABOMINABLE ” since they are forms of seeking knowledge from sources OTHER THAN the ONE TRUE GOD!

God is not going to tolerate people seeking after knowledge that is hidden …for HE has had recorded ALL things which ‘pertain to life and godliness’ in the CLOSED CANNON of HIS word.

ANYONE claim ‘new’ or ‘additional ‘ knowledge ‘from GOD is not speaking of the God of the Bible but is accessing the spirits at work in the children of disobedience and familiar spirits who take advantage of those who refuse to ‘confine’ themselves to ONE GOD …who has set up our priorities for our good and His glory.

Exd 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

We are living in an age where people are ignorant of the Word of GOD ..and not just unbelievers but believers are in need of more investment in the Word of GOD and to put away the things of darkness.

Gnosis has arisen big time among those who seek to learn something ‘new’ or something ‘mysterious’ or in addition to the Word .

Deu 11:16 Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Mar 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

2 Tim 4:1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables..

1 Tim 1:4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2Cr 4:1 ¶ Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;

9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;

10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.

16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;

18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

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Jack March 6, 2013 at 2:26 am

Too right!! :D Who knows who we’ll meet in the Kingdom of Heaven? Perhaps we might find some long lost relatives!

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nevergetit December 28, 2013 at 10:11 pm

A dear friend said something so true and I’ll NEVER forget it. I thought I’d share it. In heaven we will be saying “what are THEY doing here?” AND “Where’s so and so?”
So true!

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Jack Wellman December 29, 2013 at 1:46 pm

I once heard the late Adrian Rogers once say that there will be 3 surprises in heaven: 1, how did they get there!? 2, why aren’t they here? and 3, “how did I get here?” LOL

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nevergetit December 29, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Lol now this is so true!

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Dereck December 29, 2013 at 2:24 pm

Hey Jack,

I am in this camp, I pray that He lets me in!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Jack Wellman December 29, 2013 at 4:07 pm

I see no reason at all Dereck and also Nevergetit will not be let in. That’s what grace is all about friends…we get what we do not deserve.

Danny March 9, 2013 at 5:21 am

I assume you have heard of and studied the work of Ivan Panin? With over over 43,000 pages of analysis on his findings of numerical patterns in the bible? Goes one step further then just the obvious numbers in the bible as mentioned.

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Nicholas March 12, 2013 at 2:57 am

I seen a good bit of this on the history channel where they use a graft , and see something like Bin Laden Twin Towers , it sounds better than some Nostidomis junk , the critics would say you could get results from the book Moby Dick . I know numbers have meaning with the number 666 , and other numbers , even not 7 times but 7 x 70 , which was really to say there was no end to forgiving others . I really don’t know what to think about the Torah with a hidden number system as was portrayed on the history channel . I see the history channel getting many things incorrect , not believing what is always Biblical , and sometimes believing some of the weirdest things like old drawings on walls showing space helmets and face shields , and very old Egygtian’s shapes of their heads appearing to be of another planet , and such . I have even heard looking at the Last Supper painting it showing a UFO in the background , who cares they didn’t pose for that painting , Jesus drawn to look like the artist’s earthly father . I’d like to hear more of what you do think of some of these things , why are some not spoken about in the Bible except to say that some things are only known to GOD . I see where humans may think how was there an always , and how can there be a forever , I know I can’t explain it with my mind , but I sure know that GOD has had to always be , how could he not , and His always being is enough for me to believe in forever , PRAISE GOD , to be with OUR LORD forever , oh how great a sure truth that is !!!!!!!!!

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Jack Wellman March 12, 2013 at 10:52 am

The “Last Supper” painting of an alleged UFO is information outside of the Bible and I can not believe that anything outside of the Bible can be taken seriously. The Bible can not explain everything for it would be a titanic book if it did. As John said (21:25), “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”

God does not show us the future except in the book of Revelation and if it is not revealed clearly in the Bible for all to know, then we are not to know. If the Bible is silent on things then we should not speculate for we can be wrong. These “helmets and shields” and other such thing does not mean anything compared to what God has revealed. What He has revealed in Scripture is all that we need to know. The most important things are clearly revealed (Acts 4:12, Rom 10:9-13, I John 1:9, 2 Cor 5:21, etc.).

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Nicholas March 12, 2013 at 3:18 am

I guess I do like to watch movies , but I don’t like the way they take Bible verses out of context to make you think perhaps is this something to look in to . I feel much better reading the Bible and knowing more about it , and not fall for some junk . In the movie titled Broadcast News there is one part where a guy doesn’t like the guy in the movie that he says get’s all the great women as girlfriends , he speaks of the guy as the devil , and says oh i don’t mean with a pitch fork tail and all , I mean he just continues little by little bringing things down just a little bit , so he is never seen as the deceiver he really is , I actually think he has a point in a way although it is just a movie , he seems to peg what the devil is like pretty good in what he says . The devil will surely be a great deceiver when he is able to make fire come down from the heavens when the beast appears from the water . I have heard one preacher say , if you think about how much goes into the media these days with so much being devoted to this generation with talk of other beings , area in the dessert where UFO’s have landed or crashed , and the list just goes on . People need something , they think they need this kind of thing when in reality they need the Savior of the World …………

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Nicholas March 12, 2013 at 9:57 pm

I DO KNOW YOU KNOW I DO-NOT BELIEVE THIS JUNK ON THE T.V.,. I JUST THINK THAT A PERSON WHO IS-NOT A CHRISTIAN , AND ANYONE WHO ISN’T READING THE BIBLE WILL FALL FOR SOME OF THIS JUNK !

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WonderHisLove June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm

I just had a long time believer turn from the truth of the Bible and begin to renounce it because of his searching out so many New Age things …his latest was Astrotheology.

Learning is not wrong and can motivate us to seek out truth about all things around us in the Word . It is simply amazing how this person has turned away from the Word because he has allowed himself to be deceived.

We are told to Cast down vain imaginations and EVERY high thing that hold’s itself up AGAINST THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD and to TAKE captive EVERY thought to the obedience of Christ Jesus.

He got carried away with the ‘fantastic’ imaginations abounding in today’s world. How sad .

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Jack Wellman June 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Indeed, this is tragic. Does this person really want to trade their soul in to hell for a few, fleeting moments of the Devil’s deception? Wow. Perhaps you could help this friend by telling them what God says about such things:

Leviticus 19:26 Neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

You must warn this person immediately, even if they don’t accept it for in Jude 1:23 we are commanded to “save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.” Even the Old Testament refers to this in:

Amos 4:11 “I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the LORD.”

and in Zechariah 3:2 “The LORD said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 There shall not be found among you any … that useth divination, or an observer of times…. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD.

Isaiah 47:13-14 Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

Jeremiah 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Zephaniah 1:4-5 I will cut off … them that worship the host of heaven.

Astrology exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, i.e., the Bible. We are to obey Jesus Christ, i.e., the Word of God.

Those into Astrology love to criticize money-hungry televangelists, and they certainly are; but what about the greedy astrologers who make merchandise of people, and rake in hundreds-of-millions of dollars annually? Why don’t the heathens criticize such demonic websites as astrology.com, which claims to be the “leading astrology site since 1995!” The website offers all sorts of demonic psychic readings and unbiblical advice.

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WonderHisLove June 3, 2013 at 4:00 pm

Thank you Jack for your wise response.

I met the person online. He had a huge site with tons of materials and testimony of his lengthy study of the Word among other things. His conforming to the worldly views was something I look back on and see as some kind of ‘lesson’ from the Lord about how people who really know a LOT of Bible might not even be saved.

At times he was especially defensive of the things of the Word and seemed very skilled to me …but he became actually rather cruel with his ‘examination’ of those who disagree with him .

When he ‘dropped off ‘ Christianity and began his bringing much in terms of all kinds of skeptics arguments about the Bible, Paul and even Jesus it was curious to say the least.

This is not the first time I have had an opportunity to relate with someone of great bible knowledge who suddenly simply reversed their stand about the Lord and the Bible!

Guess it is something we need to be very prepared to realize in that apparently the TARES are a real thing within the body ! Also how just knowing a lot of scripture and being able to ‘defend ‘ ones position is not necessarily a biblically sound faith.

I have been endeavoring to follow the Lord for 44 years now .I have been at different points ‘taken in’ by those who were not following the Lord …kidnapped by the first people who ‘led me to the Lord’ …..then in seeking fellowship became involved for many years with what eventually became a cult….then married to a man who said he loved the Lord and served with me for a number of years before apostating and having a length adulterous relationship producing 2 children.

I have invested myself in study of the Word but I think I simply did not know what I did not know and I trusted peoples words too easily ….but these also demonstrated a LOT of behaviors that did not produce red flags right away.

I now recall how before many of these people became so involved in my life that the scriptures which would have kept me safe came to mind and I did not recognize them as the warnings from the Holy Spirit! I thought they were ‘just me’ trying to avoid some kind of thing that my flesh did not want to deal with!

I knew I had flesh to overcome and so I felt I needed other believers to help me by this way of becoming some kind of ‘helper’!

So many things young and unlearned believers go through …that become PART of our cirriculum of the walk I guess. It seems if I had had better training I might have realized that the Word in ME would counsel me ….I now believe that is how it works.

So much UNLEARNING to have to happen in our understanding …I spend many many hours going to the Word to find out if what I read , hear or see will be explained to me by way of the Word.

Sometimes it takes a while . I once asked the Lord about something while I was in study of Daniel …I did not get a clear understanding about it so I just KEPT GOING …and what do you know! SEVEN YEARS later while reading along I got the answer and I was even reminded that I had asked about it seven years earlier!

I think maybe that the Word had to clear away some various wrong thinking or other obstructions before I could SEE that ansewr ..perhaps also the Word had to bring more other things from the Word to my understranding to make the answer to the question make sense.

I don’t know but I DO know that GOD is capable to teach those who are willing to continue in His word…no matter what happens .

The Devil would love to deter anyone seeking to know the Lord by any means and using any offense …but I know that GOD is not to blame for the way some of those who claim His name behave.

Thankfully GOD is NOT a man that HE should LIE!

Praise GOD for those who do not handle His Word deceitfully for I believe THEY will hear ‘Well done thou good and FAITHFUL servant!”

Thank you for your response.

The guy has dropped off the planet . He went on to create a new website proclaiming to all that he was now ‘free ‘ from the programming of the Christian ‘dogma’ ….very arrogant.

I have been reading some of the ways that modern skeptics approach their attempts to fracture the faith of some by their various theories based upon their atheism and his approach is the same. No one that was on his old site has been able to hear from him and his new site has not had ANY progress…Praying for such is what we must do I propose.

Bless your heart Jack for your continuing in the Word for you are a disciple indeed!

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Jack Wellman June 3, 2013 at 8:09 pm

My good friend, I am an unworthy servant at best, a slave who knows nothing that is outside of the Bible. You are so right to pray for this man and others in such snares. I am not sure if this man was ever a Christian for many will get a fearful and terrible wakeup call some day from Jesus (Matt 7:21-23) and no one is born again to only be unborn. God has no aborted children and so 1 John 2:19 may be true for him, “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”

Keep praying brother. The ways of the wicked shall never prosper and perhaps this is why his new site is not. Thank you for caring enough for this man’s soul.

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Kris June 3, 2013 at 11:07 pm

Thank you again for wise words ….once born we cannot be ‘unborn” .

Psa 138:8 The LORD will perfect [that which] concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, [endureth] for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.

1Jo 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

Jhn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

Amen!

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Nicholas June 3, 2013 at 9:50 pm

Thanks for the responses , WE surely must pray for others to not be led astray by such junk , it is of the utmost importance to read the Bible and be knowledgeable of it to share the real truth with others .

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Nicholas June 4, 2013 at 12:25 am

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT satan CAN USE TODAY’S TECHNOLOGY TO DECEIVE ? I THINK satan MUST LOVE THAT HE CAN USE DRUGS , SORCERERS , PALM READERS , THE LIST GOES ON , TO RUIN OUR MORAL FIBER , OR OUR MEANS OF LEADING OTHERS TO CHRIST . I HAVE SAW THAT THE LIVING BIBLE VERSION USES THE TERM ASTROLOGERS SPEAKING OF THE WISE MEN , JUST BECAUSE THEY SAW THE STAR OF DAVID , AND FOLLOWED IT TO FIND JESUS . I DON’T MEAN TO LOOK FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES AGAINST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR , AND PONDER ON THAT FOR A SECOND , I ONLY MEAN TO EXPRESS THAT AS BELIEVERS THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE RECOGNIZED WHEN JESUS SPEAKING TO HIS DICIPLES SAID TO COME AS A CHILD , YOU MUST BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART , AND NOT ALLOW satan TO MAKE YOU STAGGER , OR TO MAKE ANOTHER TO , GOD FORBID !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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David Noll August 11, 2013 at 9:38 am

Love the numbers. how about the 7×70 = 490.
Is there a meaning to the 490?

Thanks.

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Jack Wellman August 11, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Thank you Mr. Noll. No, this does not mean people are only allowed 490 sins to be forgiven, otherwise WE could be in big trouble. Most Bible scholars see this as a symbol that we must always forgive each and every time and that number is infinite as God forgives us an infinite number of sins. He doesn’t keep count and then say” Well, you reached your limit….sorry, you can not go to heaven now.’ Does this make sense sir?

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Nicholas November 8, 2013 at 3:17 pm

PASTOR JACK , I HEARD ANOTHER PASTOR SAY SOMETIMES WHEN A CULT PULLS ONE LINE OF SCRIPTURE OUT AND DETERMINES IT TO MEAN SOMETHING IT DOESN’T , A THING HE DOES TO SHOW THEM THIS IS NOT CORRECT IS TO HAVE 20/20 VISION , TO READ 20 VERSES BEFORE AND 20 AFTER , HE SAID THAT HAD NEVER FAILED TO SHOW WHEN HE TESTED IT NOT TO SHOW THE REAL MEANING , WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS , I HOPE I SAID THIS CORRECTLY …………

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Jack Wellman November 8, 2013 at 3:20 pm

I think that’s a great recipe for fighting deception. Love it Nicholas. What happens when some cults pull one text out the take a text out of context and make it a pretext and a false one at that. I believe the 20/20 rule is great. Let Scripture interpret Scripture is a good rule. Thanks. Love the idea of that pastor.

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Susan Forleo November 22, 2013 at 7:25 am

Hi Jack Wellman,
You are a genius because i read many numerology but your writing is some different then others. I enjoyed very much and learn many new things from your article. Thanks a lot.

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Jack Wellman November 22, 2013 at 8:57 am

Thank you so much for your very kind words Susan. I know nothing that was not given to me so all glory goes to the Lord God.

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Matt January 9, 2014 at 5:09 pm

I am a born again believer of Jesus Christ and would like to know what you have to say about what is talked about in this forum on bible numerology

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Jack Wellman January 9, 2014 at 5:33 pm

Thank you Matt for your comment. For one thing, this guy was banned from the website so he was not apparently playing by the rules. And another thing is that this website is a atheist website and since atheists don’t really exist, since they cannot ever prove that God doesn’t exist, what they say means nothing. But this guy who created this “formula” said “Good luck trying to debunk this. It’s undebunkable and a 100% bulletproof.” Wrong. We don’t need mathematics to prove that God created the world. We have God’s Word, the Bible and this guy is like another hundred thousand who try to use science (the science of mathematics in this case) to prove that God exists or that creation did happen. That is just a bunch of bologna and if we can’t believe what God says about Himself (i.e. in Genesis 1:1-2 and John 1) then we don’t need some strange mathematics and geometrics formuals to prove it. It is baseless and without any truth and why do we need to believe in math to believe that God is Creator? If find it is useless to listen or read this but also I would stay away from atheist websites because they are fools who don’t believe in God and atheist websites are only interested in making believers stray from the truth and make them disbelieve in God so it’s a waste of time in my opinion Matt. I would stay away from that or any website like it and stay in the Word of God and in church and listen to Christ-centered messages and Sunday school teachers where you will REALLY learn about God and creation.

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm

1Ti 6:20 ¶ O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED:

1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. [fn]

Indeed Jack…snipers will often go on sites where the Word is prominent….YET even as they EXPOSE their various “spirit’ which they no not they are OF ….it CAN prompt believers to study to give and answer.

That scriptural response most likely will not convince those who are serving another god BUT it will demonstrate the wisdom in how GOD gives and answer to those who have ears to hear and have applied themselves to learn what the scriptures will say in response to such things.

It is in effect ‘an assignment’ for those following Jesus is they have something like this come across such…those who seek to undermine the faith should be warned …it is NOT a healthy place to be …in this world or in that which is to come!

Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Note : “these little ones’ are distinctly identified as those who BELIEVE in Jesus Christ …it is not a reference to children persay….though a child may be among believers.

Thus those who work to undermine the faith of believers are in deep doodoo!

Repentance is REQUIRED !

Paul went to the Jews to preach …and as the ‘condition’ of their hearts and minds apparently were hard he presented the gospel and then warned them as this account shows…then afterward the Gentiles requested an ‘encore’ ….resisting the Gospel of Jesus Christ is thus illustrated …even as he pleaded with them to repent and believe.

Acts 1316 Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.

17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.

18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.

19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.

20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.

21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.

22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.

25 And as John fulfilled his course, he said, Whom think ye that I am? I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose.

26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.

27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.

29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

30 But God raised him from the dead:

31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.

32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,

33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.

35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

37 But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

41 Behold, YE DESPISERS , and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe,THOUGH A MAN DECLARE IT UNTO YOU. .

42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

INDEED PAUL did ‘declare it ‘unto them…but they are blinded until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled…..COULD our rapture be closer than those who do not “watch’ know? Come Lord Jesus !

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Jack Wellman January 9, 2014 at 7:23 pm

Amen Kris. I am glad that Matt even asked about this because it shows me that he (and certainly you) like to be prepared to give a response, even if they don’t repent, at least they are exposed to the truth and that being said, it is worth exposing them who bring vain arguments and reasonings and we are to study to show ourselves approved and I know you do for sure and I believe that Matt is too because he wouldn’t even care if he didn’t ask. May God richly bless you both and thank you and I thank God for you both.

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 7:19 pm

Oops!It should be …. NOT ‘they no not what spirit they are of’ BUT “they KNOW NOT what spirit they are of” !

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 7:28 pm

Amen Jack…..

Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Romans 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 11:20 pm

Oh, OK …I still don’t know what you have apologized for ….I actually left a reply to Gold today….Getting involved with considering the usefulness of such things to determine anything such as Gold suggests is a slippery slope even for those who have ‘been Christian for many years’ ….There is indeed a reason GOD has warned us not to go down these ‘fascinating’ rabbit trails….but still ..each one must respond to the Word of God as each one is going to give account to God about their choices in this lifespan…stewards of the time we have here.

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Jack Wellman January 10, 2014 at 8:44 am

Thanks Kris. I apologized for misunderstanding what she was actually saying…not for anything else in particular. I would rather win a friend than win an argument, not that we were arguing.

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 11:22 pm

Haaa…I see what you mean …my last post to you jumped up ABOVE your post! Odd….

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NICHOLAS January 10, 2014 at 2:41 am

I’VE BEEN READING SOME OF THIS , WAY OVER MY HEAD , BUT THIS SITE SURE SHOWS YOU CAN LEARN FROM OTHERS , THANKS , NICHOLAS

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Kris January 10, 2014 at 3:42 am

Nicholas,

I know what you mean….some of the best ‘assignments ‘ to go and search the scriptures have come from interactions with people who asked questions …some intending to snare…some genuine…but with the intention to learn to ‘give and answer ‘ to all who ask for the reason for our hope I have been led back to learn what the scriptures would reveal.

A great thing about the Lord, and His Word! Glad you enjoy the same!

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NICHOLAS January 10, 2014 at 3:52 am

I AM JUST GOING TO BOYCOTT T.V. HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR SHARING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE BIBLE , IT IS LIKE A COMEDIAN WHO IS MAKING YOU LAUGH UNTIL HE STARTS SPEAKING FOWL LANGUAGE OR STARTS MAKING FUN OF CHRISTIANS OR THE BIBLE , TIME TO TURN THE CHANNEL , IT IS SAD THAT YOU CAN WATCH A PERSON WHO IS SUPPOSEDLY EDUCATED COME UP WITH SUCH WILD JUNK ABOUT ALIENS AND THE LIKE ……… , I AM SO GLAD THIS SITE’S WRITERS STICK TO THE SCRIPTURE AND IF IT CAN’T BE TO WHERE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THEN YOU GO TO THE PARTS YOU CAN LIKE GIVING YOUR LIFE OVER TO JESUS AND KNOW YOU NEED HIM FOR YOUR SAVIOR AND TEACHER

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Kris January 10, 2014 at 4:32 am

Yes…good to hear you say it….testifying that the ONLY source that is not twisted is the Lord and His Word can be trusted….people may HEAR it ‘twisted’ …or may want to think of something GOD wrote according to their fleshly understanding …to escape the confrontation with a holy God who does not change…but that does not change what GOD intends His Word to convey and it is up to the reader to continue to expect to understand as they continue in the Word and ask God for wisdom to understand it and apply it HIS way.James 1…tells it like it is …

TV is controlled media for profit…not for the profit of the WORD but those who love the Lord may find themselves hearing something there and then going to find out in the Word the ‘answer’ that is needed from He who is the TRUTH .

Thus …no matter what we see, hear or learn we may find out how it stacks up with God’s Word …it is called gaining the godly worldview…a necessity for us as time goes on …

time for bed here it is coming up to after 2:32 AM…nite nite!

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Jack Wellman January 10, 2014 at 8:51 am

Nicholas, you are so right sir. Satan is the “god” of this world and called the prince of the power of the air and we could say that he is the prince of the power of the air-waves. I wrote an article some time ago exposing the History Channel in their slanted, biased, and misrepresentation of the facts as most of the media is anti-Christian and many are deceptive in their programs because Satan being behind it wants to discredit God because He hates Him. Read this to see why I say that at: http://voices.yahoo.com/the-miss-history-channel-cnns-break-ing-news-5281113.html?cat=69

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Dereck January 10, 2014 at 11:37 am

Hey Nicholas,

Great post!!

I know what you mean about T.V. programs. I was watching the History channel and they had a program that talked about Jesus and his followers, and they were speculating what had been said by Jesus and the others. It sort of made me mad. I said that if God wanted us to know that information, we would!!!!

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Jack Wellman January 10, 2014 at 11:51 am

Great point Dereck about what God wants us to know and what He doesn’t. Where the Bible is silent, so must we be and reminds me of one of my new memory verses in Duet 29:29 “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.” What God has not revealed is none of our business and this is why my name for History Channel is the “Miss-History Channel.” LOL

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Kris January 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm

This verse went through my mind as I read this …same spirit confirms in us Jack!

The word is living …and powerful ..a TWO edged sword…it divides asunder the thoughts and intentions of what we think …read and hear.

Speculation is part of the CARNAL mind ..the natural man receives not the things of GOD NEITHER CAN HE KNOW THEM …for they are spiritually discerned…

The WORD IS the MIND Of Christ which GOD has given to us to read and consume….we may know whatever His spirit reveals to us and AS we continue it builds within us more and more of the ‘puzzle picture’ as it also sweeps away the various programming and preconceived things the world has overlaid in our minds over our lifetime living amidst it .

The various ‘poisonous’ meals of indoctrination, experiences that are manipulated by the god of this world, other fallen people, or unlearned but forceful people have brought things into the fallen mind and it is ‘confusion’ yet we do not realize this until we come to Christ and are instructed in His way of seeing things.

The intentional twisting and violating of the Word in our minds as well as in various ‘versions’ and ‘definitions’ INTENDED to ‘rebrand’ as the socialist would identify their process …have led to man who already likes to see things his own way to serve his own flesh …to a state of ignorance of what the truth of our world is.

When we come to Christ there stand ready MANY antiChrists posing with their ‘authority’ they claim in having ‘attached the name of Jesus Christ ‘ to their teaching …and draw many clueless who know not the word enough to realize it …for a time..

Those who continue in the word as Jesus told us to …will eventually become equipped to SEE from the WORD of GOD and HIS perspective the things which are tripping them up ….outside and within ..and we become equipped as well as cleansed of all the things which are in error ..great and small.

Those who desire to learn what GOD wants for us and what HE has provided MUST read the Word themselves as they go along.

It is like eating …we do not become nourished in body by watching someone else eat a hamburger …When we go to hear a teaching it is to be an ‘appetizer’ to get us to the ‘table’ of the WOrd of GOD ..

We must ‘eat our own bread’ …in quietness as scripture tells us …with our hearts open and ‘quiet’ in expectation of being taught of GOD while we read …we will be taught ..

The ‘annointing we have received’ the Holy Spirit …also reminds us that throughout the OT the head was ‘annointed with oil’ which is a ‘type’ of the spirit of GOD

It is where the WORD is to reside as we are guided in our choices by thoughts …thus the Holy Spirit enters into our mind by words…and we then are led by heeding what comes up from the Word to guide us along …how to make choices

THe Lord told us ‘If you love me keep my commandments…keep my words’ …We must have that word to heed it …we also must submit or humble our lives to being ready to do what it tells us …

Humility is not a ‘posture or a physical expression ‘ we probably have observed in those who wish to be thought of as ‘humble” but true humility is what comes of seeking to submit to doing what GOD ‘s WORD says …it is a STATE that results from our trusting GOD and loving Him enough to put our opinions and desires and feelings UNDER His Word realizing HE knows and is GOOD ….thus will inspire in those who heed Him what to do in all situations here on this lifespan tour…on our way to living in His Kingdom .

We are not righteous in an of ourselves but we are given HIS WORD in order to grow in knowledge and understanding and appreciation of HIS righteousness and that we may ASK for Him to help us follow Him and obey all that He has for us .

We are not saved by what we do ….but by WHO Christ is.

Jesus paid all for us …so that we can be IN HIM through His SPIRIT.

The World knows not Christ …and Satan works through those who are led away by their lust and greed …They distribute his filthy deceptions …Those who come to Christ and learn of Him begin to see all things as God will reveal them as they submit to GOD …they are then equipped by His Word to RESIST the devil and he will flee …for a time

Even as Jesus Christ deflected the devil , recorded for us to learn in scripture BY THE SWORD of the WORD ..saying “It is written’ ….it was not magic words that he spoke …but it was the living word which IS HIS Spirit …which is powerful ..and the devil could not handle the “LIGHT ” of truth.

We need this IN us and we also need to rely upon this ‘armour’ which GOD has commanded for us to study , and put on ..and walk in ..as His word is to ‘abide’ in us and then HE IS LIVING IN those who do this .

In that Word ‘living ‘ in us ..it ‘speaks’ out of our heart to guide and counsel us …if we are uncertain of something we can go back to seek out the answer…and this is all growth …and it corrects …as 2 Tim 3:16 reveals .

The curriculums of the devil is still flooding the earth and will until the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints. { believers!}

No wonder the devil hates the Bible …and seeks to twist it and discredit it ..he cannot succeed in a life unless a person ignores or rejects God’s Word / Son.

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NICHOLAS January 10, 2014 at 6:02 pm

MAKING MYSELF A COPY PASTOR JACK , THANKS

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Jack Wellman January 10, 2014 at 8:27 pm

Nicholas, I covet such men of God that stand on the truth so firmly as you in the church that I am under-shepherd of and I thank God for you brother.

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NICHOLAS January 13, 2014 at 9:41 pm

PLEASE ALL , I ASK YOUR PRAYERS , I DID HERE THE SWEETEST OLD HYMN GETTING OUT OF THE TRUCK TONIGHT AT WORK — TURN YOUR EYE’S UPON JESUS , I SURE NEED THE THINGS OF THIS EARTH TO BECOME STRANGELY DIM , AS I LOOK IN HIS MARVELOUS GRACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jack Wellman January 13, 2014 at 9:46 pm

You have mine Nicholas. I truly thank God for you brother and your devotion to God.

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Kris January 14, 2014 at 2:16 am

Nicholas,

Well don’t we all! As the song says …”Turn your eyes UPON JESUS …look full in His WONDERFUL FACE….and the things of earth will grow strangely dim …in the light of His glory and grace’

So be it bro

AND …HE Himself ever liveth to make intercession for us ! That is SOME “prayer partner”! I am thinking we are “good to go”~!

One good thing about ‘bad times’ is that things inevitably will get better if only by comparison!

2Cr 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

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Matt January 17, 2014 at 7:34 am

Thank you for the reply my brother. I appreciate you taking the time. Only thing I must say is, I used to be an athiest terrible sinner in and out of jail and if it wasn’t for people listening and caring about me and telling me the truth of Christ as my Lord and Saviour I would have never been born again. So I say we do mind these atheists, find out what they believe in(because they do have faith and belief in what they think is right whether they admit it or not), so we can come back with the truth in a way that is most effective. We need to try and save everyone athiest or not, definitely not ignore them and their beliefs but know whats true and do our best to be the light they need in their lives by listening and caring.Jesus bless you all, goodnight.

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Jack Wellman January 17, 2014 at 8:07 am

Thanks Matt. I am just thanking God for you my friend that there are still faithful Christians who are willing to give a reason for the hope that is within them. Well done and may God richly bless your labor for the Lord in the field of harvest.

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Shy August 4, 2014 at 5:11 pm

Hi Pastor Jack

A few years ago my mother and I were driving home from visiting my brother. It was early evening and the sun was setting. We were driving towards the sun and the sky was a beautiful light pink/orange above the setting sun without a cloud in the sky.

I can’t remember what we were talking about but as we came over the hill we saw a HUGE 7 painted perfectly in the sky above the setting sun. Not a wispy like 7 you get from a cloud forming it, but a solid 7. It was bright orange/pink with a golden line around it. At the bottom end of the 7 there was another shape in the form of a pen sloping right/upwards and away from the 7. This was a solid shape at the bottom but faded nearer to the top till invisible.

I don’t believe in coincidences and to this day we have never heard about anyone else seeing it that day. Nor have we been able to find anyone who could even try to explain it to us. So I was just wondering if you have any thoughts on this?

Hope I am not bothering you with this. Just hoping someone can shed some light on this.

Blessing from South Africa :)

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Jack Wellman August 5, 2014 at 12:15 pm

Thank you “Shy” for your question. I know that the number 7 is a number of completion and that is why there are seven days in a week but what you saw is impossible for me to say, as I could not possibly know with certainty what this would mean. You are not bothering me by the way. That is why I am here. I wish I could help you but God speaks to us most clearly in the Bible and that is all I can say. I am sorry to disappoint you. Perhaps, in time, this will be made more clear to you and your mother.

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Jack Wellman January 9, 2014 at 8:53 pm

Thank you Gold. I apologize for my misunderstanding. May God lead and direct you in your walk with Him, wherever that takes you my friend.

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Kris January 9, 2014 at 9:30 pm

Hi Jack,

I cannot find the post to which you are addressing your apology and wondered what it is that you are apologizing for ? Would you mind directing me to that post ? Thanks …keep up the good work!

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Jack Wellman January 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm

Kris, it is at the top of the comments on this page….nearly in the first few comments (not in the “previous comments” but on this webpage). I am not sure why my comment ended up way down at the bottom??? :-)

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