Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation? A Biblical Analysis

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Once a Christian is saved, can they lose their salvation?  What if a believer falls away from the faith, can they be restored again to God?   Have you ever doubted your own salvation?  Is once saved always saved true?  Once a Christian is saved, can they be lost again?  Is there such a thing as eternal security?  Can a person’s name be erased from the Book of Life?

What Saves the Believer?

Some denominations and some Christians believe that once you are saved it is possible to lose their salvation.  But what is salvation in the first place?  We can believe what the Bible says above what people or churches say.  Let’s review some of the scriptures that talk about salvation:

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”  A literal rendering of “shall” is actually “will” so this scripture, according to the Greek, ought to read “…that whoever believes in him will not perish but has [the present indicative means they already possess] eternal life.”

Acts 16:30-31: ““Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Acts 4:13: “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

John 3:18: “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”

The overriding factor in our salvation is that we must believe that Jesus Christ is Who He says He is and is not tied in any way to what the believer does.  We do not initiate our salvation nor do we do anything to achieve it. In fact no one really seeks after God (Rom 3:11) but it is God who seeks after us and calls us (Gal. 1:15-16).  That He saves us to completion and to the uttermost is directly attributed to God.  We are in no position to save ourselves.  It is not about letting Jesus “come into your heart” or about thinking that “God has a wonderful plan for your life” but it is about believing in Jesus Christ.  And whoever believes in Him walks in faith and accepts Him in faith.  You are saved only by the grace of God and apart from yourself, it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.  Ephesians 2:8-9 echo this, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.”

Jesus Plus Works Equals Nothing

If anyone believes that their works can save them remember that God calls even the best of good works filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6).   Here is the one and only work that God accepts and that Jesus testified to, “…This is the work of God, that you believe on Him Whom He has sent” (John 6:29). “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God” (Rom 10:3).  Romans 4:6 clearly says that we are saved “without the deeds of the Law” (Rom 3:28), and it is “not of works” (Eph. 2:9) “It is the gift of God” (Eph. 2:8).  No one is saved by works…we are saved for works.  God would not give us the gift of grace only to take it again. Who gives someone a gift and then goes and takes it back?

God Saves Completely

John 6:37 and John10:28-29 both testify that once God calls you and saves you, He will not ever caste you away or you can never be snatched from Jesus’ hand or the Father’s hand.  Philippians 1:6 says, “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”  Further, I Corinthians 1:8 states, “He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. “  God does not call the qualified but He qualifies the called.  Holiness is not the way to Jesus; Jesus is the way to holiness.  Your own salvation is not all of your responsibility; it is your response to His ability.

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Genesis May 18, 2013 at 8:09 pm

If I had conviction before than that means I must have the Holy Spirit in me,right?

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Jack Wellman May 18, 2013 at 9:59 pm

I see what you mean by following the Holy Spirit. That makes good sense. And yes, if you had conviction, that is a sure sign of the Holy Spirit working in you but truly, I don’t think these doubts are a problem because they hit all of us from time to time.

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Genesis May 26, 2013 at 5:14 pm

My pastor told me it doesn’t matter how strong doubt and fear are as long as your faith is strong and pure with the Holy Spirit. I try and do that but I still doubt, maybe my faith isn’t strong enough, or maybe I’m forcing myself to have faith

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Jack Wellman May 26, 2013 at 5:50 pm

Hello Genesis…I believe it is hard for all of us at times and we go thru cycles of doubt’s in our faith. I don’t know of anyone who hasn’t at some time or another doubted. Read these to see if doubt can rob you of your salvation (John 6:37, John 10:28-29 and all of Romans 8). Which is more reliable? Our feelings or the Word of God? No brainer, eh?

Rom 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.” In Rom 8:15-16 “For you did not receive (AA)the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of (AB)adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.”

God has no aborted children nor can anyone be un-born again! More from Romans 8 “for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?”

More from Romans 8 “Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died.” Not even your OWN doubts can bring such a charge.

Yet more from my favorite chapter in the Bible! (Rom 8)

“Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

NO thing…NO THING created (includes you, Satan….nothing!)

I urge you to camp out all week in Romans 8! This chapter is totally awesome!

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Genesis May 26, 2013 at 5:33 pm

I don’t understand why it is so hard for me to have faith

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Genesis May 26, 2013 at 8:19 pm

Ok I will read Romans 8 and I have another question, my pasted told me that faith is from the Holy Spirit which is true gait but I am Little confused by this and was wondering how do I get faith and how do I keep having faith?

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Jack Wellman May 26, 2013 at 8:23 pm

My friend, that is a very, very great question. Yes, faith is from God and also one man asked Jesus “please help my unbelief” or lack of faith. Rather than go into an extensive answer, we have an article that is exactly about what you asked that is, it is hoped, very thorough indeed using the Bible to answer the question “How to Increase Your Faith?” at this link my friend. I pray it gives you some peace of mind.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-increase-your-faith/

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Genesis May 27, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Thank you pastor Jack but I’m still having trouble (sorry), so when I read the bible or meditate on a verse god will just give me faith? As it said in the article faith is a gift from god so thAt means I already have it but I receive faith by receiving faith?

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Jack Wellman May 27, 2013 at 5:50 pm

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (Rom 10:17) and so we can increase our faith by increasing our hearing and reading the Word. Romans 8 has been called by many theologians the greatest chapter in the Bible and I am of a mind to agree for there is such assurance in it, in fact in all or Romans. Camp out there and I believe your faith will grow, i.e. 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is God’s power for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 1:17 For the righteousness of God is revealed in the gospel from faith to faith, just as it is written, “the righteous by faith will live.” The reason the gospel is God’s saving power to everyone who believes is because it reveals the righteousness of God—a righteousness which is by faith alone, a fact which is confirmed in the OT (Rom 1:17)

The righteousness of God is revealed in the gospel from faith to faith (1:17a). It is written in the OT that the righteous by faith will live (1:17b). In the OT, the point of Habakkuk’s comment is that it is only by sheer faith that one can ever comprehend the seemingly difficult things God does and this is probably the sense here in Romans 1:17.

There is a parallel in 2 Cor 2:16. There Paul says, in reference to non-Christian responses to both the gospel and his ministry that he is to some the smell of “death unto death.” His comment is intended to be rhetorical where “death unto death” means sheer death. Thus we may say that, by the phrase from faith to faith, Paul is simply arguing that it is by faith and faith alone that one receives this righteous status and understands God’s work of saving sinners.

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Genesis June 2, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Is it possible to resist doubt?

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Jack Wellman June 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Yes, it is possible to resist doubt. Reading the Bible can keep us from doubt but doubt can keep us from the Bible.

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Genesis June 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm

So if I just think a scripture in my head over and over again than I will eventually have faith in that scripture more ?

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Jack Wellman June 7, 2013 at 8:15 pm

Yes Genesis…faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, the Bible. If you memorize Scripture it will have a positive effect. There is real power that I can’t even explain in the Word. Let me put is these ways:

If you get into the Bible, the Bible will get in to you.

If you go thru the Bible, the Bible will go thru you.

If you cover the Bible, the Bible will cover you.

If you read the Bible, the Bible will read you.

Make sense. Hang in there friend. I am for you.

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Genesis June 8, 2013 at 9:08 am

Help pastor Jack thank you , I’m sorry for all my questions but I have another one, I have this feeling of turning away from god but I don’t want too and that I want god to take care of me but then I think no I can take care of myself, how can I fight off those evil desires or thoughts, I feel like that are not even my own thoughts

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Jack Wellman June 8, 2013 at 10:46 am

Genesis….you are not alone in this my friend. Let me recommend a great article that may be related to what you, and many others, are going thru. It is an introduction to the Armor of God at:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/the-armor-of-god-introduction/

And also one on “Spiritual Attacks” at:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/spiritual-attacks-putting-on-the-armor-of-god/

I believe these two will not only give you help but give you understanding about the Enemies tactics.

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Genesis June 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

Hellos pastor Jack, satan has been putting emotions and thoughts into my head that aren’t even mine. That’s why I got out of one of the articles and by putting on the armor I can fight those emotions . I know the armor of god but what scriptures would help me in this situation

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Jack Wellman June 9, 2013 at 2:31 pm

Hello Genesis…perhaps this from Philippians 4:8 might help which reads, “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable–if anything is excellent or praiseworthy–think about such things.” and Romans 12:2 “Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is–his good, pleasing and perfect will.”

There is real power in the Word of God, the Bible and part of renewing your mind is reading it.

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Genesis June 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm

Thank you for these scriptures, I do want to meditate and study the word but it is almost like a have to more than a want to. It’s like required to read and study which it is but I feel like I am forcing myself to study and meditate not cause I want to. How can I overcome this?

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Jack Wellman June 11, 2013 at 9:02 am

Genesis…you are not alone for even the most “spiritual” person at times has to force him or herself to read the Bible, to pray, and to mediate on the Word of God. We have an article that is full of Bible Scriptures on how to increase your faith at:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-increase-your-faith/

You will likely never overcome this for when we seek to pray or read our Bible, the Enemy puts up resistance but we must persevere and do this even when and especially when we don’t feel like it. I too battle this my friend.

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Elan June 13, 2013 at 1:20 pm

I have a question Pastor Jack, me and my co-workers have been debating on treasures in heaven. We wonder if their are different levels of gifts in Heaven? If once you live a life for God and enter the kingdom of Heaven, will our good works add to the blessings in heaven? Will we receive extra rewards for doing extra work here on Earth that brings glory to the kingdom of God? Or will we all simply be the same in Heaven? Where everyone will just receive eternal life and live with God forever and ever? The reason we ask is because we wonder, we see Christians working overtime for God and doing wonderful things and their fruits are good. But then you see other Christians who don’t put in that extra effort and just do the bare minimum. Which brings up the question, wouldn’t it be fair for God to reward those who work harder for him and add to his kingdom then those who believe and just have faith in him? Any help as to where we should look and find the answer would be much appreciated. Also any extra commentaries of certain versus you provide, because we may be interpreting them wrong also.

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Jack Wellman June 14, 2013 at 2:05 pm

God will be completely fair at the time of our rewards in heaven. I believe that when God says that “He will wipe away every tear” some of these tears may be those of regrets for a great number of believers will have no rewards at all when the are taken into the Kingdom while others will be rulers over 5 cities or some over 10 cities as Jesus gave in the Parable of the Talents (Luke 19 & Matthew 25).

1. This first verse will tell us that every single one of us – no exceptions – will have to appear before the judgment seat of Jesus Christ to be judged for everything that we have ever done down here on this earth. Here it is:

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things DONE IN THE BODY, according to what He has done, whether good or bad.” (2 Corinthians 5:10)

Most Christians do not fully realize the seriousness of this verse – that we are all going to have to give an account to Jesus for everything that we have ever done down here on this earth – all of the good with all of the bad.

2. This next verse will tell us that our rewards from God will be according to our labors that we have done for Him while living down here on this earth. Here it is:

“… and each one will receive His own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR.” (1 Corinthians 3:8)

This verse is telling us that the rewards given to us by God will be totally dependent on what we accomplish for Him while living down here on this earth.

3. This next verse will tell us that Jesus will be bringing His rewards with Him – and that He will be rewarding every person according to the work he or she has done for Him while living down here on this earth. Here it is:

“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to everyone ACCORDING TO HIS WORK.” (Revelation 22:12)

So Jesus answered them and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brother or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or land, for My sake and the gospel’s, who shall not receive a HUNDREDFOLD now in this time … and in the age to come, eternal life.” (Mark 10:29-30)

I hope this helps my friend. Labor hard today for more rewards in eternity or for those who are slothful Christians, you may get to heaven but by only a door holder?

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Genesis June 19, 2013 at 8:47 pm

Hello Pastor Jack I have been going through a rough time I know you know and was thinking why is god blessing me when I’m struggling and doubting?

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Jack Wellman June 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm

My friend, God is good and gives blessings even to non-believers. God doesn’t bless us just because we are good or withdraw them if we do bad things. Math 5:45 says “He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”

Does this make sense Genesis?

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Genesis June 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Yes it does thank you

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Connie June 23, 2013 at 11:50 pm

Hello, I have a question about salvation. I have some relatives by marriage who many years ago accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Now they denounce Christianity. They say it is all made up and continue to bash Christians whenever they get the chance. What does god do with these people? What will happen to them after they die if they don’t start believing again? I don’t see how they could possible get in acting like they do but If once saved always saved how could they be kept out of heaven? I’m very confused on this subject. If someone could enlighten me I would be most grateful.

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Jack Wellman June 24, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Hello Connie. Great questions. No one can be born again only to be aborted. God has not aborted children. If they denounce Christianity then they are denouncing Christ Himself for when the Christians were being persecuted, Jesus said to Saul (later Paul), “Why do you persecute me?” which means when people attack Christians they are actually attacking Christ.

Now, as for their really being born again, I doubt very much that they ever were for 1 John 2:19 says “They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” How clear that is. They went out from us and from you because they were NEVER part of you and that by doing this, they show that they never “belonged to us” or else “they would have remained with us” but “their going showed that NONE of them belonged to us (the church).” Make sense? They are headed to the lake of fire if they don’t repent of their rejecting Christ, confess their sins, and put their trust in the Savior (see Rev 20).

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Ed June 24, 2013 at 1:32 pm

Hi Jack…just to clarify, since you referenced 1st John 2, it sounds like you would define Connie’s relatives as ‘antichrists’, since that is whom John is writing about. Some would argue that they are ‘fallen away’ or, to use the Greek term ‘apostate’. Is there a difference in your thinking? I would agree that her relatives are not, at this time, saved.

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Jack Wellman June 24, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Hello Ed. No, I was not really referring to Connie’s relatives as anti-Christ’s but let it be known that Jesus said you are either for me or against me. A good reading of 1 John chapter 3 shows that a person’s life reveals whether they are attached to the True Vine or not. My point in 1 John 2:19 was just what I quoted, ““They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.”

Make sense Ed? I hope so.

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Ed June 24, 2013 at 5:54 pm

Jack…I just like to keep some context. The ‘They’ in 1 John 2:19 obviously refers to the prior verse that says “…even now many antichrists have come.”

It is an interesting bit of scripture…especially when John writes, “see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you.” (v. 24) Sounds like Christians have a responsibility to remain faithful.

As before, I agree that 1 John 3 makes it pretty clear who is saved and who is not.

Jack Wellman June 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm

Thanks again Ed. Anyone that is an anti-Christ is one that rejects Jesus as Savior and as 1 John 2:3-11 says, “We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.

7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and in you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.

9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.”

Then in verses 18-20 we see that John is writing to Christians “Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. [how do we know? because] They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.” Make sense sir?

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Ed June 24, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Thanks, jack. Yes…seems very clear. John is writing to Christians, telling them in verse 19 that they (the antichrists) went out from us (the believers) and they (antichrists) did not belong to us (the believers). For if they (the antichrists) had belonged to us (believers), they (antichrists) would have remained with us (believers), but their (the antichrists’) going showed that none of them (the antichrists) belonged to us (believers). Quite clear.

My original question was if there was a distinction between what John calls ‘antichrists’ and those who fall away (Greek: apostasia), which Paul writes about in 2 Thes. 2:3.?

Jack Wellman June 25, 2013 at 11:25 am

Ed, I could be wrong (not the 1st time nor will be the last) but 2 Thess 2:3 seems to be about believers being Laodicean-like. Here’s why I think that:

First of all, they must expect persecution because they trust in the Lord Jesus. But God has a purpose in allowing them to suffer and he will reward them (2 Thessalonians 1:5-10). Paul and his friends write to give them strength and to encourage them.

Also, the Thessalonians seem to have some strange ideas about the return of Christ. Some said that the Lord had already come. But this is not right (2 Thessalonians 2:1-2). Some thought that the Lord would come at any moment. The return of the Lord will be sudden. But, there are things that must happen before he comes (2 Thessalonians 2:3‑12).

Additionally, some of the Thessalonian Christians were lazy. They had given up their work. It could be that they expected the Lord to come very soon. They depended on their friends to keep them and feed them. Paul had mentioned this subject in the first letter (1 Thessalonians 5:14). Now he tells them what they should do to those who refuse to work (2 Thessalonians 3:6-13).

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Ed June 25, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Thanks, Jack…I appreciate your thoughts and your willingness to love others, as God instructs us to do.

Jack Wellman June 25, 2013 at 12:31 pm

Thank you Ed. I am humbled by your words my friend. I see that you have a tender heart for the lost and may God keep alive this broken heart for the lost as Jesus had when He wept for Jerusalem. Let’s join together and pray for Connie’s family my friend. I am honored to have such a godly man of faith such as you be here with us. I am nothing but God loved me and redeemed me anyway but loving the unlovely.

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Daniel Chavez June 24, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Brother, Wellman. I just want to thank you for standing in the light scripture. A lot of people are too afraid to speak truth, afraid that they might offend someone, and for fear they might lose their crowds.

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Jack Wellman June 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm

Thank you so much for your kind words Mr. Chavez. Doing the right thing is not always popular and doing the popular thing is not always right but here by God’s grace I stand on the sure Word of God, the Bible and I thank God for you sir for your encouragement.

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Connie June 25, 2013 at 2:25 am

Jack, Thank you for enlightening me on this subject. It was something I had been thinking about for awhile. It is saddening that they will not get into heaven unless they repent. It is also angering to hear them bash Christians. I will pray for them as well as ask god to forgive me for getting so upset with them when they bash. I appreciate everyone’s comments on this subject and I have found this site to be a blessing!

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Jack Wellman June 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Thank you Connie for your words of encouragement. I agree that we should pray for these people for God doesn’t want any to perish but that all should come to repentance and trust in Christ.

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Tristen June 28, 2013 at 6:27 pm

Hello Pastor Jack,
I am a recently recommitted Christian and I have a question concerning the once saved always saved doctrine. I have seen several arguments for and against it, and both make good points. Both accuse each other of being liars, and false teachers. So it is really impossible for me to see who is right. On one hand, those who say OSAS is false are said to be relying on self-rightousness and their works, rather than their faith. However, they say that through true faith works are produced. Also known as fruits. But on the other hand, the ones who say OSAS is true are ignoring the Scriptures that say things such as “Their name will be blotted from the book of Life.” I am sorry if my question is not clear, I am just so lost on this topic! All I have gathered is that if you believe in Christ and what he did,and repent for your sins and ask for forgiveness, you are saved. As a human, you will continue to sin though you are not being a sinner, for you desire to avoid sin, and not give in to the desires of the flesh. This is all very new to me, and I would love some insight!

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Jack Wellman June 28, 2013 at 8:21 pm

Tristen. I do not like the term once saved always saved but it is called, in reformed theology as the perseverance of the saints. Do you think God has someone born again and then they abort? Does God have aborted, born again believers? You wrote what the real bottom line is:

“If you believe in Christ and what he did,and repent for your sins and ask for forgiveness, you are saved.”

Amen…then you wrote, “As a human, you will continue to sin though you are not being a sinner, (1 John 1:8 & 10)for you desire to avoid sin” again I say amen. Read Romans chapter 7 and see why what you wrote is so true but then read the conclusion of Paul in Romans 8. Does any of Romans 8 or these Scriptures,..John 6:37, John 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Romans 10:9-13, Acts 4:12, John 3:16-17…and dozens and dozens more.

Those who believe we can lose our salvation have only one text to use in Hebrews. That is a dangerous thing to use ONE verse to build a belief on…that is how cults are formed. I pray I have helped.

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Genesis July 13, 2013 at 9:54 am

was wondering if you could watch this clip it’s pretty interesting

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Genesis July 15, 2013 at 7:22 pm

When I study the bible I pray to god to give me wisdom and understanding but it seems like I always get confused on how to interpret the verse or I don’t know what topic to do it on then I go back and forth on a topic,why is this happening?

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Jack Wellman July 16, 2013 at 8:56 am

Do you have a study Bible? Good study Bible’s always help. Also Google Matthew Henry Bible commetaries are awesome help. Try finding a good study Bible and also talk to your pastor about help in this.

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Genesis August 2, 2013 at 5:15 pm

I am doubting for a few reasons,1 am not sure weather to meditate and focus on the armor of god,knowing the docks schemes or knowing that I am not saved by works.2. When I remember to put on the armor ,it is really hard for me because I need to know the devils scheme at the same time also then I would easily resist but it is hard for me also because I think like I have to earn my salvation. Also I really wanna focus on gods love. So I have all these things to meditate and focus on but I think that if I focus on one then I need the other also.

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Jack Wellman August 2, 2013 at 5:25 pm

I would just focus on God’s reassurance and that is found in the gospel of John and the book of 1st John instead of trying to multi-task in the Devil’s schemes or the armor.

I suggest camping out in these. Have you read these? I would just go thru John and use a good study Bible and that has done wonders for me too…we all have seasons of doubts. Don’t despair. God will never leave us nor forsake us and never, in the Greek means….you guessed it; Never! Trust Him and not your feelings.

When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future (Rev 20).

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Genesis August 2, 2013 at 8:24 pm

I know what my problem is, it is self righteousness. I think like I owe god but I dont and it has become a habit,does this make sense?

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Jack Wellman August 2, 2013 at 10:06 pm

Yes, this makes sense. Jesus paid it all…we bring nothing to our salvation except the sin which was covered at Calvary.

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Paul Huggins September 4, 2013 at 4:51 pm

I was in Malta in 2010 recovering from prostate cancer, the lord has now healed me, but while I was there i attended a church untill i found out that the pastor believed once saved always saved was a doctorine of demons, I very quickly left, it was so sad that his congregation did not have the wonderful peace of salvation through faith in the risen Christ full stop, I tryed to tell them that Jesus paid for their salvation with his presious blood, so their salvation did not belong to them but to God, you can not lose or give away some thing that does not belong to you, I pray that it made sence in their lives Amen!

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Jack Wellman September 4, 2013 at 8:14 pm

Well said Mr. Huggins. Oh, how I wish I was your pastor but again, you seem well versed enough in the Scriptures to take my place! LOL I believe in the perserverance of the saints but sadly many in the church I am under-shepherd of, to the Great Shepherd, do not believe in this. What a fearful thing…one day they believe they are saved…the next they are lost…etc. Interestingly enough, this is my next subject to preach on and I am not fearful that they don’t believe it but I am fearful (for them) if they do not believe the Bible. There are so many verses that I can turn too, John 6:37, 10:28-29, John 6:44, Rom 8:28-38 (Very convincing and powerful) etc but one is a clear one is 1 Peter 1:3-9 “3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, 5 who by God’s power are being guarded [literally kept!] through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8 Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, 9 obtaining the outcome [or having already since this was past tense, the outcome [completed] of your faith, the salvation [past tense] of your souls.”

I pray they will understand by the Word of God, and the work of God the Holy Spirit. Part of my sermons are perfect! The part where I read out of the Bible. LOL

Thank you sir. You are a breath of fresh air to me and my spirit is revived in hope from you brother.

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Paul Huggins October 31, 2013 at 4:54 pm

Praise God for you Jack and your tireless work you do on this site, you are a true blessing to all, thank you. I am about to go to the Phillipienes in January to visit president of Channels of Blessings Pastor Daniel Macaray, I believe that God is going to use me in some way which I understand it to be an amazing privilage to do so, I have led a very coulourful life to say the least, from being electricuted on a live rail line, horrifiying car crashes, locked in jail for fire arms, drug dealing and violence, boxing the world champion as a pro fighter, living a dream, but by the time i woke up it was all blown away, surviving terminal prostate cancer a bad marrage and on it goes. I thank God through our Lord Jesus Christ for his patience, mercy and grace, and for the plan that I am so eager to follow, please pray for my strengh and the revelation of wisdon and self control so that i may do Gods will Amen,
Remain blessed to be a blessing Pastor Jack,

in Christ Jesus,

Paul.

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Jack Wellman October 31, 2013 at 10:18 pm

Mr. Huggins…what an uplifting comment. I pray that God uses you mightily and for His glory for there is no other purpose for which we were created and all you have gone thru is a powerful witness to those who are going thru suffering and you give us all hope sir. Please do keep in touch.

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Jack Wellman September 4, 2013 at 8:17 pm

And oh yeah….God doesn’t have any aborted children. We are born,{Greek) “from above” (not below) in John 3:3.

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Ed September 5, 2013 at 12:08 am

Hi Jack…as much as we disagree on the issue of ‘falling away’, I am glad that you are ministering to the “many” in your church who seem to believe that salvation can be here today and gone tomorrow. I haven’t seen that in churches I have attended and taught at, and I would most certainly confront that falsehood. I would maintain that the vast majority of apostates do not attend bible-based churches on a regular basis.

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Jack Wellman September 5, 2013 at 9:57 am

Thank you Ed. Strangely, the smallest churches are often the most faithful to the Word churches. The bigger churches with hundreds and thousands (sometimes called mega-churches) or emergent churches have the most people because they don’t want to hear God’s Word for it afflicts them. Pastors are to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, unfortunately, many would rather have “tickled ears” than have their ears pierced by the Bible for the Word cuts to the flesh and all the way to the bone. You are so right in your comment Ed. Thank you sir.

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José October 29, 2013 at 3:17 pm

I really enjoyed your articles pastor. That topic came back to my attention just recently while taking a class in a small bible seminar. The class was based on the Letter to the Romans by Paul and we were using a book that extensively explain the letter, including Greek/Hebrew grammar rules. The author did mentioned the perseverance of the saints, although the majority in our class kept calling it “saved always save.” The church is part of a major organization of churches that also calls this doctrine a heresy although I’m sure not all it’s member churches adhere to the same mentality. I expressed my thoughts during the discussion of the numerous and typical “oh if we believe we cannot loose our salvation let let us do whatever we want,” mentality. During the last class the teacher read us an article published by the organization debunking the doctrine by attacking straw men arguments and calling it a victory. By the end I knew only I was still not convince that the doctrine is Biblically supported. I however think your article could be more in depth since I have stumble upon countless Christian sites that try to debunk it with more stronger arguments. Here is a link to one I just read that make some strong points. God Bless

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Jack Wellman October 29, 2013 at 9:16 pm

Thank you José for your comment. I think an article can never, ever be as comprehensive as a sermon, and so having said that, please listen to this message called “The Preservation of the Saints” which is a 3-part series and one is at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7flO4tqlw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxOhC92m24

or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHijWhlG9xM

When a person is born again the literal translation is “born from above” or by God (John 3:3) and I cannot believe that God would have any aborted children. Let me know what you think sir. I value your opinion.

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Jeannette November 8, 2013 at 8:10 am

I personally have been tormented for the last six years, I born again filled with the Holy Ghost. I went to bible college and received many revelations and seen and heard many miracles from the Almighty God through our Lord Jesus. Something happened to me in which I will not reveal on line but spiritually I am a mess. I guess I can say I had a big attack of the devil whom he uses vessels (people) to do his dirty work just as much as god uses his vessels of honour for good. I believe the devil (an invisible spirit) attacks Christians to steal and loose their salvation. I feel spiritually dead which has caused me depression daily and some how I cannot get myself out of it. I can’t even go to church now because of this. I sometimes feel maybe I should go and see a paster for an exorcism, I can still function but I feel something wrong spiritually with me. The bible does say put your armour of God on and this is for spiritual protection and he tells us to do this for a reason. Use discernment daily and guard your sole. May the lords relationship grow strong with you in your journey and may it be very fruitful for you and that he rain on you with many blessings. Never ever doubt for The Lord is there with you and so is the Devil.

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Paul Huggins November 8, 2013 at 11:41 am

Hi Jeannette,

I understand what your going through, I too had a spiritual attack, some one said to me once that the devil always attacks when we are due for a promotion, even other Christians were not supportive, I felt kicked while i was down, and it seemed the devil was having a field day, I lost my wife in a bad marrage, my mum died and i was diagnosed with agressive prostate cancer all in the same month!, but God was there all the time even though it was hard to know so, what comforted me was i could not stand the pain any longer I just had to get into a Christian retreat, I collapsed on the ground sobbing like a baby compleatly broken, a little time after that a lady came up to me with tears in her eyes and told me, ‘she said, I have never seen any thing like this what im about to tell you in my life, but while you were on the floor a beautiful figure of a man in a robe came up to you and rapped His arms around you!! He who lives in us Jeannette is far greater than he that lives in the world, and He will never leave us nor forsake us or let any one including the devil snatch us from his hand, we are secure in Him, he lets us go through such trials because His plan for our life comes as we go through the valley of death into His light all for His glory, the best is yet to come sister, hang in there. your friend in Christ, Paul:-)x

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Jack Wellman November 8, 2013 at 2:08 pm

Amen Jeannette. There is so much wisdom in what you said about the armor of God and it is becoming increasingly more important day by day as Christ’s coming approaches all the more. I too have had serious doubts at times and I find that the Enemy is wanting me to doubt so as to rob from the joy of my salvation and make me ineffective as a witness to Him. I see you are understanding and “girding up your loins:” to which I say amen and amen. Thank you Jeannette.

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Ed November 8, 2013 at 12:03 pm

Jeanette…the words of the apostle Peter may be of some comfort to you: “Cast all your anxiety on him (Jesus) because he cares for you. Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast. To him be the power for ever and ever. Amen.”

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Stanley March 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm

Pastor,

I humbly request you insight and a bit of clarity. Is there going to be a final judgement? If so, will any believers be judged? Or will they simply be granted salvation regardless of any sins committed? If a believer will be judged, then can I assume that they were never a true believer to begin with? If so, can I then assume that a true believer is incapable of sin? Because if a believer is capable of sin and they will be judged, what will they be judged on and why?

Thank you

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Jack Wellman March 13, 2014 at 6:43 pm

Thank you Stanley for such great questions. Our sin was judged at the cross and we have no fear of the wrath of God anymore (2 Cor 5:21, Rom 5:1,8, etc.). For more on what rewards, not judgment, Christians receive please read this fine article by Robert Driskell at: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/are-there-rewards-in-heaven-based-on-how-we-live-on-earth/

Scripture repeatedly states all men, not just unbelievers, will be judged for their works (Proverbs 24:12; Ecclesiastes 12:14). The unbeliever’s judgment of works comes at the Great White Throne (Revelation 20:12). The believer will not be condemned at the Great White Throne, but nonetheless he still faces a judgment of works himself, at what is called the “Judgment Seat of Christ.” For those whose name is written in the Book of Life, they have no fear of the second death (Rev 20:11-15). Scripture teaches with unmistakable clarity that all believers in Christ will give an account of their lives to their Lord (Romans 14:10-12). We will be judged by him according to our works, both good and bad (2 Corinthians 5:10). The result of this will be the gain or loss of eternal rewards not lost to hell (1 Corinthians 3:12-15; 2 Corinthians 5:9,10; Romans 14:10-12).

If any man builds on this foundation [the foundation of Christ] using gold, silver, costly stones, wood hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. (1 Corinthians 3:12-15)

Our sins are totally forgiven when we come to Christ, and we stand justified in him. Nevertheless, Scripture says what it does about our coming judgment. This judgment of believers by Christ is a judgment of our works, not our sins. However, the commission of sins and the omission of righteous acts we should have done, apparently replaces or prevents the laying up of precious stones on the foundation of Christ. Therefore these sins contribute directly to the believer’s “suffering loss.” Through this loss of reward the believer is considered to be receiving his “due” for his works “whether good or bad.” Hence what we do as believers, both good and bad, will one way or the other have effects for eternity.

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Nicole Jenkins September 21, 2014 at 10:33 pm

Pastor Wellman what a complete blessing you are. I’m 42 and am born again. I was a member of a good bible based church years ago. Even though I haven’t gone to church for awile I still feel strongly the presence of God. I am beginning to read my bible and have had my 15 year old son accompany me. We have decided to read a little a day so that we can understand and fulfil God’s Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth. It feels so good when reading the bible and the presence of His love is felt. I also feel Him smiling down on me. I want to be a better Christian. I know I should be. I stumbled upon here and I’m so happy that I did. You have answered many questions that I’ve been unsure about. Although at timesI feel alone I then remember I’m never alone. I teach my son the same and with him growing into a youngman I feel the need to rear him in the presence of the Lord. There is so much that I’d say now, but I will save some for later. Forever praising God and thanking our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for Salvation. My prayer is that we Christians continue to have faith and continue to do God’s will here on Earth. Love all and witness and give testimony of how great God has been and still remain to us. We need to uplift, pray, and bless one another. Continued prayers for all of mankind. Bless you Pastor. Amen.

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Jack Wellman September 21, 2014 at 10:46 pm

Thank you Mrs. Jenkins for your very kind words. I believe the security of the believer glorifies God because salvation is fully a work of God and all glory to His grace is attributed to the supreme sacrifice of Jesus. God has no aborted born-again children. Just read Romans 8 to see why I say that and also Jude 1:23-24 says it all! “Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, 25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

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Erin March 6, 2015 at 11:01 pm

Hello pastor Jack! I was googling around tonight and just read through this entire article and all the comments. It was a blessing to me as I feel like I am always struggling. Hot one week cold the next. Very frustrating. I’m following you on Facebook as of tonight! Glad I found this. Thank you.

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Jack Wellman March 7, 2015 at 11:28 am

Hello Erin. So glad you found this article and me on Facebook. I know that many of us suffer from the same thoughts and experiences and yes, it is frustrating but at least you recognize you are struggling and seeking to do better. I wish you could worship with us at our church in Mulvane, KS and talk with you in person. Many don’t even want to see a problem in their lukewarm-ness but the fact that you do shows me that you are being convicted and that means the Spirit of God is still working in you. Better that than to be blind and naked and poor and not even know it as Jesus told the Laodicean church.

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Love answers April 3, 2015 at 8:41 am

Once saved always saved or to be Born Again and Eternal Life in Jesus Christ?
Thank you for your site, this subject has 2 sides just like a believer has 2 natures. One is of the flesh and one is of the Spirit and is the heart of the Gospel itself. Which doctrine is truth can and should be answered by the Holy Spirit and by the Bible that he wrote.
Once saved always saved doctrine teaches that you believe in Jesus Christ and you are saved and always will be. You have received Jesus Christ and are born again so you can of yourself do nothing to earn or keep your salvation. So does the doctrine of being born again and eternal life is in Jesus Christ. Seems exactly the same and is in all those truths they are the same, except the “and always will be”, I say that in Love.
If that was all there is to the message then the Bible went into great length to teach about the many who will fall away that Jesus warned believers about. If we cannot lose the salvation that he has given even though he taught that he will never lose any of his, there is no reason to put the scriptures in that prove that there were warnings or that the scriptures that prove that we are saved by Grace for they have been discussed by many ever since the Gospel of Grace began. So how does a believer learn truth on this vital subject without offending or insulting and learn completely by Love so egos and intellect do not have a place in interpreting only what the Spirit can teach?
I guess I just answered my own question, only the Holy Spirit can teach. Does that mean that we do not need to teach each other or share in love the truths that we have learned? That would be like saying only the Holy Spirit can teach a believer so I have all the truth and if you disagree then you must be not saved in the first place but I am? Sounds like once I believe something about salvation I believe is truth and nothing else matters because even if it is wrong then I am saved anyways. Yes I have actually had another believer tell me that after discussing other subjects about the Holy Spirit.
Jesus teaches that the Holy Spirit will teach us all things “when he is in you” and we know we must have the Holy Spirit in us or we would not have believed in the first place. Yet, as I heard a Hindu say, if Christians have God in them why so much apathy between them and their behavior does not represent the God that they say is in them? Is this relationship between the Holy Spirit and the believer more important to pursue so we will all know truth far above I believe this and you believe that and it is all ok because no matter what we are still saved because our doctrine of once saved always saved proves it?
When something of such Spiritual importance, would the Holy Spirit not answer directly instead of leaving it to our intellect to solve by saying this scripture says this and this scripture says that, even though they seem to contradict each other it does not matter for we are saved anyways? Can truth ever be found or is it work to even seek truth? Sorry, I mean this in all sincerity for salvation is the Gospel and we are God’s ambassadors of truth and can we rightly divide the word by “no matter what we are still saved, I believe the Israelites tried that, and I mean that in love?

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Susan April 3, 2015 at 6:40 pm

Hello,

I just discovered this site. I read the article as I am so scared and worried about my salvation. Here is my question. I know others have asked as well, but well, you know, you always feel like your situation is different from others. So, here goes:

I think I have been “saved” numerous times. The first, I was in my early twenties, some friends took my first husband and myself to a type of “revival” meeting and we dedicated our life to Christ. Well, we did not follow up on it, and I fell back into sin big time, I went out of town to school and while there, was not too faithful to my husband, I did not commit adultery, but did everything but, and this person was an atheist. I sort of knew I was doing wrong, and I would pray for him to change. Well, I moved back home, never did finish the college, got back with my husband, but, we were not in love, and I feel he still had feelings for his “ex” He hit me once, and went to a sexual massage parlor claiming they were pretty and would listen to him. We ended up getting a divorce. I had a minor nervous breakdown. I moved back in with my dear parents, and started to get more in the “Word” attended a great church, said the “sinners prayer” again, and really felt filled with the spirit. I was totally in love with the Lord. Then, I met another guy, he professed to be a Christian, but, he would not work, we got married, it was a disaster, after 8 months of marriage, he deserted me, (I was wife number 4) I had no idea where he went, and I had to file for divorced in the “missing persons” section of our local newspaper. I had another minor break down, and once again, re-dedicated my life to our Lord. I stayed completely celibate for 28 years, did date some, but did not get married again until 3 years ago. I met a Christian New Zealand citizen on the internet in a Christian forum. We skyped lots, emailed, and he came over to America, we met, and got married about a month later. I moved over here with him, and we got married again in front of his family and friends. It has been a most difficult marriage, he is, I believe, still grieving for his “ex” wife, and our love life is non-existent. We argue lots and really are not compatible. However, this time, I am not going to give up, I know how the Lord hates divorce, so, I am struggling along and ask the Lord daily for help.

I can not begin to tell you how many times I have said the “Sinner’s prayer” I never feel saved anymore. I truly feel I am bound for hell and I am petrified. My nerves are shot, I cry all the time, I do not want to read the bible or go to church. I keep thinking if I was saved, I would not do some of the sins I do, such as bad-mouth my husband to close friends or family, use unclean language, avoid church and bible classes, etc. As I said, I do not read the bible, it is just so hard for me to understand anymore. I am a mess. My husband is a “believer” in fact, he wants us to move back to America, he wants to attend a bible school there, that is fine, but, I just don’t feel he will do well, but, that is just me, his friends here say he will do great.

Which brings me to another issue, those “friends” of his. Mercy, they adore him, I can do no right, he can do no wrong. I have no one to talk to here, I feel so alone. That is one reason I won’t go to church, I get so irritated with how pious he acts with his friends, takes their advice over anything I say, they are “perfect” and he always insists that I tell them my problems, well, no way, they would pounce on me, he just will not see that. So, as I said, the marriage is not good, but, well, I married him, so, now I must stay. (I will say, that one time I emailed an elder friend of his from the church he attend while married, he said that Steve, my husband and his ex would still be married had he taken her feelings more into consideration, but, he was selfish and did things without consulting her or taking what she said into consideration. He is doing that to me as well now. )

Anyway, now to my question. Am I saved? I want to be, I love the Lord, and I want to follow Him, I hate how I act, I do not want to hurt Jesus. I am always sincerely sorry when I repent, but then, I back-slide again. It is a vicious circle. As I said, I am sick with worry. I know ministers like Rev Charles Stanley say a person does not loose their salvation, but maybe I am one that can not be saved.

Our little church here is so small, I have no minister to talk to, in fact, the main office might close it down, we only have 9 in the congregation unless it is a holiday, then we have a little more. There are no Christian counselors near either. We live 2 hours from the major city of Christchurch. This is where Steve could help me, he knows I am afraid of not being saved, he knows I am having “faith” issues, yet, he will not talk to me about the Lord, the bible, anything, so, how can he say he wants to go to bible school and be a chaplain, he won’t even help me.

I hope you can shed some light on this. I just finished watching “Jesus of Nazareth” last night, I kept saying “I am sorry” as they were nailing our dear Lord to the cross. I do love Him, I want to be with Him and the elect in heaven. Please pray for me. I want to truly repent and change, but, every time I try, I backslide. Thank you for reading this.

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Jack Wellman April 3, 2015 at 7:24 pm

Thank you Susan for your question. Actually, and maybe you didn’t know this, but no one can be saved several times. They are saved once and for all time nor they have never been saved before. I wish you were close to our church in Kansas where I could sit down with you and talk. Did you read all the Scriptures in this article? I strongly suggest you read Romans chapter 8, particularly the last 10 verses. And John chapter 6 and 10. You must believe what God says and not what you feel. Human feelings are unreliable and not trustworthy but God’s word is sure all the time.

A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8–9).

A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed. A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18–19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ.

A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench.

A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).

Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4).

Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38–39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28–29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5–6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.

Jude 24–25 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy—to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.”

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Susan April 3, 2015 at 7:41 pm

Thank you so much for your reply, it helped, I am going to study those verses you have mentioned very carefully.

Yes, it would be nice to live near you and to talk, sadly, New Zealand is so far from America.

I do have one other question. I know you read my letter, so, do I have to leave my present husband because I married him and my last two divorces were not “biblical” at the time, when I went through them, I just was not aware of all that, I have only become “enlightened” to this the last few years. His wife was committing adultery, so, I know he could remarry, but well, I guess I should not have, but did. I have asked for forgiveness many times, but feel I am not forgiven. I want to make this marriage work and will NOT divorce again.

Maybe this why I do not think I am saved.

Thanks again for your help.

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Jack Wellman April 3, 2015 at 7:48 pm

Please Susan…don’t leave your present husband because you cannot unscramble an egg. Two wrongs do not make a right. You will only make matters worse by divorcing again and hurting your present husband. As for forgiving yourself… you must not set a standard of forgiveness that is higher than God’s and God forgives ALL of ours ins once and for all (1 John 1:9) so since I can’t be there in New Zealand, here is a message I gave some time ago called “Forgive Yourself” that I believe will really help you at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WisEeynBXVA

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Susan April 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm

I just finished listening to it. It has cleared up so much, thank you for sharing. You spoke of things that I never really thought about, such as calling the Lord a liar if I do not forgive myself, and, the act of sitting down is the sign of “completion” and that is why Jesus sat at His Father’s right side because His job was complete.

You are a wonderful teacher, the Lord is surly working and speaking through you.

Oh, I had to chuckle at the cute joke about the German Shepard guide dog, I can just imagine the looks on those passengers’ faces.

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Jack Wellman April 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm

Also Susan, here is an article that proves we have to forgive ourselves if the sermon I sent you is not compatible http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-forgive-yourself-a-christian-commentary/

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Susan April 3, 2015 at 8:56 pm

I just read it, it, too, along with the video, helped to unclutter my mind of all the wrong ideas that satan was trying to teach me.

Thank you so much.

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Jack Wellman April 3, 2015 at 9:11 pm

Praise God Susan. I have feet of clay be God can use even broken jars of clay like He did with Gideon to bring Israel a great victory so I am glad I could help but God alone is truly deserving of all glory and honor and praise. I thank God that I could be of some use to my Master to whom I am, at best, an unworthy servant but by Christ alone I have His righteousness (2 Cor 5:21).

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Susan April 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm

Thank you so much, I feel so much better. I won’t divorce Steve, I will make it work with our Lord’s help.

Thanks for the link as well, I am going to listen to it now.

You have helped me so much. May our Lord richly bless you.

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 1:17 am

hi i may have committed willful sin Hebrews 10:26-29 and i may have fallen back into the world even though i repented(not sure if it was Godly conviction or my own it felt like my own)(2 Peter 2:20-22). is there no chance of being redeemed for me if i’ve asked for forgiveness and still haven’t noticed God working in me like he did before i went to sin? am i cut off and going to hell? i don’t notice his joy in me like before and i the power that was working in me before to preach Jesus is not there. God still hears my prayers but i don’t notice his power in me working like before anymore. it was consistent i would always feel Jesus’s joy and his power working in me since the beginning of my walk with Jesus after accepting him the third time i began my walk Feb 2011. it is 2015 i sinned about the end of January the first time and i think it was willful. am i headed to hell with no sacrifice of sins left? thanks

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 1:19 am

i sinned before i mean, but this is the first time that i willfully sinned. maybe i’m a mature Christian and that’s why i am experiencing this?

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 8:27 am

Hello Brian. Thank you sir for your question. Just the fact that you are worried about committing the “unpardonable sin” is evidence that you haven’t done so because someone who is not saved couldn’t care less about it. Can we ever outsin the cross? Even when our sins are big, our Savior is bigger. Rest assured my brother. The only sin which cannot be forgiven is rejecting Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. Please read Romans chapter 8, John chapter 6 and 10 and see why I say that. I would also talk to your pastor about this and see if he doesn’t agree. Trust God and His Word (i.e. John 6:37, 39 & John 10:28-29) and don’t trust your feelings.

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 1:53 pm

hi Jack. thanks for your reply. sorry for the extra posts. if what i’m noticing is actually what is, then i’m not saved anymore? i’ve tried to pray what i lost back.

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 1:55 pm

◄ 2 Corinthians 13:5 ►
King James Bible
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 2:03 pm

This is a warning that starts in 2 Cor 12:19-21 to 1 Cor 13:1-5… you must take the entire body of text. Chapters and their division where put there by humans…so there should be no break between chapter 12 and 13. Look at these things to examine if you are doing such things as “sexual immorality, and sensuality that they have practiced” (2 Cor 12:21). I would speak with your pastor about your concerns. I wish I could face to face with you. If Jesus Christ is in you then you are not a reprobate. Have you repented and trusted in Christ? That that is not you.

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 2:27 pm

hi again Jack. i have repented and trust Jesus as my Lord and Savior. i went through the sinners prayer at least about 5-7 times after sinning against Jesus and repenting. i think the sin was putting other gods before him and getting help from other gods. i think the Holy Spirit is still in me, but i don’t notice the same power working in me like before. before it was like Jesus was doing the work in me, but now it’s like i’m doing things on my own which is really hard because i don’t think i can move forward on my own without him if it’s true we can’t do anything without Jesus

Brian April 19, 2015 at 2:03 pm

i’m not sure that Jesus is working in me like before i sinned. if i’m overcome, have i lost my salvation? if i’m still saved, God saves believers that don’t overcome in the bible? there’s a verse that says the person who overcomes he will not blot his name out of the book of life. if this is the verse:

◄ Revelation 3:5 ►
King James Bible
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 2:09 pm

1 John 4:4 “Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.” 1 John 2:13 “I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one.” 1 John 4:6 “We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.” 1 John 5:4 “for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.”

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 1:21 am

i’ve been baptized and born again btw sorry i didn’t mention it in the first post

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 4:22 pm

thanks Jack. do you have an email i can keep in touch with you?

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 4:29 pm

Just go the top of this webpage where it says “Contact: Ask Questions” and you can reach me there friend.

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Lauren April 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Hi Jack. I believe in Jesus and the Bible since I was young, but now that I am 16 I am starting to doubt and lose connection with God. I do not think that God is not real, I just never feel like reading Bible or praying and I do not feel that I have a good relationship with Jesus. I long to be close to God but it’s just not happening.
I would be very grateful for some advice.

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Jack Wellman April 26, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Thank you Lauren for your comment/question. If you don’t feel like reading your Bible and Jesus is the Word of God Himself (John 1:, 14) then you never will feel close. Maybe you have never been saved? Have you talked with your pastor about this? If so, what did he say? If not, why not? Do you have a Bible-believing church? You need to find one for you will always feel distant if you are not in the Bible daily and if you don’t have a church home find one and talk to your pastor. I fear you may not be saved. The demons and the Devil believe in Jesus too but that doesn’t mean they’ve been saved. Are your parents Christian? Talk to them too or are they not saved and in a church either?

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Lauren April 26, 2015 at 2:30 pm

My parents are Christians and pray and read the Bible with us every day. I go to a Baptist church every Sunday and I really like going. I don’t really talk to my parents about things like this. I have given my hart to God and I have been baptised but I am struggling to focus on God and I don’t know why.
Thank you for replying.

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Jack Wellman April 26, 2015 at 2:35 pm

I would talk to your parents about this then…and do it today. Tell them just what you told me. A person is saved when they have repented of their sins (turned away from them and forsaken them) and then put their trust in Christ. If you’ve done that, then that’s what it means to be saved. We all go through times of doubt. Read John chapter 6 and 10 which are two of my favorite chapters in the whole Bible. The more you doubt, the more you won’t want to read your Bible…the more you read your Bible the less you’ll doubt. Does this make sense Lauren? I would still also talk to your pastor though and tell him what you feel.

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Ed April 27, 2015 at 12:31 am

Jack…that’s solid Christian advice for our young friend Lauren. Thank you for your ministry and the love you show for others in your responses on this very important subject.

Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 2:39 pm

Brian, do you have a church pastor you can speak with? I don’t believe anyone is saved by a sinners prayer 5 to 7 times but it is those who trust in Christ that are saved. We can pray for God’s forgiveness and He will forgive us, that’s His promise (1 John 1:9) and then you have Jesus’ righteousness imputed to you (2 Cor 5:21) and you can know that you are saved if you have fruits (read John 15) and yes, we can’t do anything without Christ.

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 2:52 pm

hi i don’t have a set church, but i was showing fruit when i would always talk about my faith. i was never that kind of person to talk about my faith before(i didn’t really have a belief in anything) i think i was agnostic before though. i said the sinners prayer that many times after i sinned because i wanted to be right with Jesus and God again. i gave my life to Christ about 3 times total the first two times didn’t really work because i didn’t have the power of God inside of me if that’s the Holy Spirit. i asked to be born again and for the Holy Spirit after giving my life to Jesus the third time. i also along the way got baptized after coming to Jesus the third time.

i thought before i went to get help from buddhism, that i could just say sorry to Jesus and be forgiven, but i think i may have gone deep into the faith enough to be accountable for my sins if i were to sin even after being born again. i think that’s why i have this fear now that i’m going to end up in hell because of the lack of fruit that i’m producing now and just noticing that i’mspiritually dead

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 3:01 pm

i also noticed that after i went to get help from buddhism. old desires, sins that i thought i had overcome already with Jesus had returned. so i’ve been dealing with all other sins since that power of God if it’s Jesus that stopped working in me. it’s like i’ve become a slave to sin because i sinned after Jesus made me free from sin.

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 2:55 pm

Why no church Brian? A person is born again in John 3:3 and John 3:7 is Greek meaning you are born “from above” so it your new birth is from God. Why no church? We are not to forsake the assembling of ourselves (Heb 10:25) and there are no “lone ranger” Christians anywhere in the New Testament. Jesus is the Head of the Church and you are not in His Body, the church. Why so my friend?

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 3:10 pm

i’ve been trying to keep in touch with fellow believers on facebook. i agree with that scripture, it isn’t salvational if i don’t goto church is it?

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm

Facebook is not church and no, church doesn’t save you but you are living in disobedience and someone who lives in disobedience will always have doubts about their salvation. Why don’t you have a church home? What’s your reason?

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 4:12 pm

in my past, i was looking for a bible based church. i wasn’t sure if i had found any that were biblical. i know there aren’t any perfect churches either right

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Brian April 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm

so every once in awhile i would just goto a church that says they are practicing the bible that says they are Christian

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Jack Wellman April 19, 2015 at 4:14 pm

Keep looking brother. There are over 100 “one anothers” and “members” or “body” in referring to the church so we need each other.

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Jack Wellman April 27, 2015 at 7:57 am

Thank you sir for your encouragement. I appreciate that…and you’ve made my day Ed. May God richly bless you for that.

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