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Jenny February 23, 2012 at 1:52 pm

Those who promote a faith in ‘multiverses’ don’t seem to care that they haven’t found a ‘first cause’ for those coming into existence either.

Jack February 23, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Thank you Jenny. What an excellent point. I feel that the many theories about an uncaused universe are simply a way of eliminating a need for a Creator and thus, God. Romans one and two, and many of the Psalms shows us that the universe declares the glory of God and that humans are without excuse.

Please visit us again when possible.

Tracey Westphal February 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Jack,
This was an “awesome” piece, (awe of God, that is.) I truly enjoyed the read. The theory of God existing outside of time was first introduced to me by my ten year old son when we studied creation. Day four, God created sun, moon, and stars… “Oh, mom, that’s when God made time begin!”
It was great to read a well researched piece with this theme. I also loved the einstein quote.

Jack February 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Hello Tracey. Thank you so much. Your ten year old son has more logic and intelligence than do the many brilliant physicists and scientists do. As the Bible says, “Out of the mouth of babes thou has perfected thy praise.”

Truly the Psalmist and Paul (in Romans 1 & 2) are true: The heavens declare the glory of God and that they stand without excuse who deny a Creator for the creation. Please come back and visit again my friend.

Dagmar February 27, 2012 at 7:59 am

Hey,
Truly appreciate the article.
Just wondering: How do you come to terms with the simple fact that God was not created and has always been there- mentally speaking? i must say, after reading your article, i am still struggling with that!
I would also love to place your article in our weekly newsletter, i will mention where i got it from and the name of the author—Only if that’s okay with you Sir.

Thanks again

Jack February 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Dagmar, thank you so much for visiting us and for your comment. I too struggle with the fact that God is the uncaused cause of all there is…but that may be the point. God is God because we can not get our minds around Him and figure Him out. He is infinite and we are finite. We are the created and He is the Creator. I struggle with that but then if we could figure God out, He would not be God. Does that make sense.

You may use this article in a newsletter that is printed or a PDF file that is emailed but you must give the author’s name and even if its an Internet newsletter, we ask that you put a link to the article which is from this site, like the link http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/who-created-god-is-god-outside-of-time/ The author is Jack Wellman (me) and the website link is above. Thank you sir very much and we appreciate your asking.

Tracy Wykes May 5, 2012 at 7:54 am

Jack,
This article is great!! Thankyou. I love what you said to Dagmar in the above comment reply – “God is God because we can not get our minds around Him and figure Him out. He is infinite and we are finite. We are the created and He is the Creator. I struggle with that but then if we could figure God out, He would not be God.” You can’t say it better than that!! 🙂

Jack May 5, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Thank you so much Mrs Wykes. I truly believe that our God is so awesome that I can not even explain Him and believe that even in eternity, since He is infinite, we will spend time without end and still not know Him fully but what a reason to worship Him and fall down before Him. Please come back again soon and thank you for your wonderfully encouraging comment.

David Essex May 13, 2012 at 5:53 pm

“Once energy is used up, it’s gone.”

The author clearly don’t understand the laws of thermodynamics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it is merely transferred! Do your research next time.

God bless the baby Jesus.

David

Jack May 13, 2012 at 7:33 pm

Thank you David. You are correct sir and what was once a period became a comma and what should have been stated was that energy doesn’t disappear or dissipate but it moves from ordered forms of energy that can be used for lots of things into random, disordered energy. This would be much like dissipating light into the dark recesses of the universe from our sun. This light, which is energy, is pretty much useless the further it travels from its original source. Thank you for pointing out my mistake sir.

Vickie AlSaifi June 25, 2012 at 11:17 am

You are very intelligent. Thank you for this education on these subjects.

Jack Wellman June 25, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Thank you so much Vickie. I am not so intelligent but I do have an Intelligent Designer that I worship. Even so, I appreciate your kind words my friend. Please see our newest article on the main homepage called “What is the Cause of the Universe.”

Vickie AlSaifi June 25, 2012 at 11:18 am

Thank you. 🙂

Simyon September 10, 2012 at 6:56 am

Jack: It is much easier to come to terms with “forever”, than its inverse.Consider a grandfather clock (with its pendulum) as analogous to the clay vessel; obviously the vessel does not create the creator, but in terms of the clock (read:cosmos) what transpired before the pendulum was set in motion? I am a “student” of the architecture of the cosmos, and have come to terms with the order of it, and understand its basic premise of creation, destruction. and re-creation, at the same time understanding that was once, is necessary for the re-creation, later. BUT, regressing towards the inverse of infinity always seems to DEMAND a “1st born”, so-to-speak.Consider the parable of a gun type nuclear device such as “llittle boy”, the projectile is accelerated toward the mass of U235 creating the explosion; but where did the material to make the projectile come from, IF THE PROJECTILE ITSELF WAS A RESULT OF A PREVIOUS EXPLOSION?! Kind of like the chicken and the egg.

Ashley Autry October 28, 2012 at 5:24 am

Well said Jack! God would not be God if we knew how He was made….He would be man if we knew that piece of information. Thank you for that! Also, we cannot think of God with our simplistic view of time and space, cause and action. Our minds are made simpler than Gods because he made the time and space in which our mind RELATES ONLY to. Our mind will never have the understanding His has! And praise God for that!
-with Love

Dee November 20, 2012 at 8:38 am

Wow! this is a really researched material, i had the same questions over and over again and now with different relevant references, i am always looking forward to read more pieces from this blog. Thank you so much.
Dorine from Kenya.

Jack Wellman November 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Thank you Dee so much. I am glad you are visiting us in Kenya. May God bless you there and please come back soon.

Kayla November 28, 2012 at 11:54 am

I have two questions…

1. What’s the point in creating something if you already know how it’s going to play out? If God knows everything then He is already aware that He is going to defeat Satin. He knows who is going to join him in the end. He is supposed to be the almighty so why not just skip to end? But then with God there is no end. We are all just supposed to spend “forever” with a God that already knows what’s going to happen? Seems pointless.

2. Do you think God created life elsewhere way before our time and that’s where aliens and higher intelligent life forms come in?

Jack Wellman November 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm

Thank you Kayla. Great questions my friend. Why would He skip to the end and miss the opportunity for us to grow in grace and knowledge and sanctification takes a lifetime for the believer. Godly character takes time and events to develop and if we just “skipped to the end” how could we grow? Also, we are to be witnessing to the lost and God intends for us to share the gospel with others and so we can’t skip to the end and leave out others who might not hear the good news of Jesus Christ. It is not pointless to inherit eternal life and for those who are saved in this age, we will be kings and priests in the coming Kingdom to come which will be forever growing and we will be teaching others about God in the eternal Kingdom.

Whether God created life elsewhere, we don’t know. Bacteria is life and it may well be elsewhere in the universe but this doesn’t mean that it is created in the image of God, male and female (humans) to glorify God. Aliens and higher intelligent life forms aside, we don’t know but we do know that God exists and wants to save those who are on this earth right now. “What if’s” can not help us earn eternal life. Read Revelation 20 & 21 to see what God’s purpose and “end” for humans is.

Thank you Kayla. You posed some great questions. My question for you is are you sure you will go to heaven if you were to die and no one is guaranteed tomorrow (Rom 10:9-13, Acts 4:12)? That is the MOST important question there is.

Joshua January 5, 2013 at 7:07 am

I have read many of your posts now and I would just like to tell you that you are doing a great thing and I pray for you my friend. I love the fact that you are teaching others the way of Christianity and I also pray that anyone reading this will find Jesus and accept him as their savior and join god in heaven. Do it before its to late you never know what day on earth is your last god bless you all.

Jack Wellman January 5, 2013 at 11:35 am

Thank you Joshua. What an edifying comment. I also pray that the power that is in the Word (I have no power) makes effectual work in the person to bring them to see their need for a Savior and humbles them before the Mighty Hand of God to tremble at His Word. I am nothing, He is everything.

Steve January 19, 2013 at 3:22 am

Jack: A couple of years ago I read an article in a magazine whereby the author argued that unless he could be SHOWN that God does indeed exist, “He” does not. Wanting God to exist, or believing that God exists, seems to justify our individual existence whether one’s goal is to “get to Heaven”, or not. I am asking you, what event would have to happen to make believers out of those that don’t? Many religious folks don’t put much stock in science, as it is well known that many scientists are aetheists.But, on that DAY of “reckoning” they have the instruments (telescopes) to see for themselves, and when they look to the sky thereafter something will be missing, and they will have then no excuse not to believe!¡ It is hidden in scripture:
Mark 13:14-23, “the “fields”, “the rooftop”, are referring to Cassiopeia and Cepheus, and that which rises later in the evening, Andromeda, specifically M31, the great galaxy which is NOT where it appears to be (and Mr. Einstein would not understand why not). The great day of His wrath is at our doorstep; have patience, and then you WILL believe!¡ Keep up the good work and believe in the GOOD news, as I (do).

Jack Wellman January 19, 2013 at 11:10 am

Thank you so much Steve for your encouraging words. Let me say that the man that said “the author argued that unless he could be SHOWN that God does indeed exist, “He” does not” is offering a useless argument. The day that they can prove that He does NOT exist, then I will listen to him. The fact is that the atheist suppresses the truth as Paul said in Romans 1 & 2. The word used for “suppress” is like a spring being held down by force for they willingly suppress this truth for it is evident that God does exist.

The original and greatest scientific minds were ALL Christians. A simple search for the history of science will reveal that these men and women believed in God and that science is not really revealing new information because it was there all the time. They are discovering it for the first time. No one can convince a person that God exists for Jesus said to Peter that “flesh and blood did not reveal this to you (that Jesus is the Son of God) but My Father in heaven.” The Holy Spirit reveals to lost people Who God is and Who Jesus is. We can only pray that God would do this revealing to them. Ultimately, it is not our responsibility to have them believe in God. It is their response to HIS ability but it is our responsibility to tell them. Let the rest to God for “no one seeks after God” really. God, like the Prodigal Son’s Father, sought after him.

I put it this way in my own life:

He sought me, He caught me, He bought me, He taught me, what I ought be. Its not about me but all about Him.

Daniel April 11, 2013 at 12:30 pm

Our minds simply cannot conceive something that has no beginning. In human life, there is a start, middle & end. While we are still in this physical body there will be no way that we can fully embrace such a thought. Jack, I have made “atheists” admit that there is a God. No one that calls them self an atheist is truly an atheist. Where did all this material come from that put what they think in motion in motion? Did someone or something put it in motion? They reply yes, well then you just admitted to a Divine deity. It’s like talking with a child were you have to let them connect the dots for themselves vs just telling them to believe in God because He is there. In the end, no matter what science tries to explain, God created science!

Jack Wellman April 11, 2013 at 1:12 pm

Well said Daniel. The effect of the universe had to have a cause and without a cause, there could never have been any effect. Let me also thank you for caring enough to share the reality of the existence of God and that atheists may not believe in God but He knows that THEY exist.

I will contact you via your email as I have been working a tough schedule and I write, work for a foster care agency and also pastor a church so please don’t give up on me contacting you my friend. I thank God for you.

Daniel April 11, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Jack, no rush take care of those poor children in foster care. They need you more than I. You are an amazing man with a great heart and they have an immediate need for help! God bless you sir!

Jack Wellman April 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm

Thank you Daniel for your patience with me. I get so overextended at times and only have myself to blame, but I agree…these foster children have been thru more than some adults have in a lifetime. May God richly bless you and I thank you.

Lynyrd Villanueva April 20, 2013 at 8:25 am

As this article has proved its logical and reasonable point, athiests and evolutionists like Stephen Hawking and Richard Dawkins should kneel down before their creator. Mankind CANNOT argue with how the universe came into being. Their imperfect minds cannot and will not contradict the relationship of God with the origins of the universe.

Rayray May 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Brilliant 🙂 great site , please keep up the good work

Craig December 30, 2015 at 1:11 pm

Please consider revising this statement in your article: “A created thing is always lesser than that which was created.” Do you mean “A created thing is always lesser than that which created it.”?

Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/who-created-god-is-god-outside-of-time/#ixzz3vphJkopY

Jack Wellman December 30, 2015 at 1:50 pm

Done sir. Thank you Craig. Nice catch.

Al Schoneman January 18, 2018 at 8:34 am

This excellent articles reminds me that those who attempt to explain God or subject him to the same physical laws that govern our lives are really setting themselves up for disappointment. God is God, there is no other. He appoints all things. We are the clay, he is the potter. I’m learning how to subject my wishes and desires to him after a 7 year long bout of employment/unemployment. He has a purpose to all things. Ours is to discover that purpose.

Jack Wellman January 18, 2018 at 11:20 am

Spot on Mr. Schoneman. Thank you sir.

Ebrown March 1, 2018 at 2:53 pm

When I first saw the title, I wanted to drop it but something within moved me to read through. I must confess your presentation is educative and soothing. God won’t be God if we know the way around Him. I would rather die believing in God than to live thinking He doesn’t exist and find out that He existed at all.
Jack, ,you’re doing a great job leading people to Christ and answering difficult question through the inspiration of God.
May God almighty bless you and reward yourself effort in Jesus name, amen.

Jack Wellman March 2, 2018 at 11:29 am

Thank you so kindly Ebrown for such encouragement. I appreciate that.

charles stutler March 2, 2019 at 10:34 pm

I wan the newsletter

Jo Ann Mikulencak February 28, 2020 at 4:28 pm

I’m impressed with your comments. They appear to speak truth and are educational. I like your integrity.

Jack Wellman February 28, 2020 at 5:24 pm

Thank you for your kind words.

Dennis Riggs December 11, 2020 at 10:19 am

Hi Jack, I enjoyed your article. I delve a bit into Quantum Physics as a hobby. I also teach adult Bible study. I got the opportunity once to discuss the precedence set by science of God’s omnipresence by studying Quarks and how they can be in more than one place at a time. I also explained, very briefly, the string theory of vibrating strings being life’s building blocks. I explained how in essence, we are continuing to see the echo of God’s voice from the time of creation. All that to say is how Science proves God’s existence over and over and scientist continue to ignore their own observations.

Jack Wellman December 11, 2020 at 10:22 am

Thank you Mr. Riggs. Powerful work you are doing sir.





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