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Jerry Jackson April 26, 2013 at 6:48 am

The government is set up by God to enact earthly justice. Police are appointed by government to keep the laws of the land. We are to obey them as set up by God. If someone is or is about to harm my family, then they will be met with force.
The context you are stating is that people are oppressing you because you are Christian, then be a witness. Many crimes today are not because we are Christians but because we can be taken advantage of and our material possessions. We should never do anything from the offensive but we are not refrained from protecting our families from bodily harm.

Derek Hill April 26, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Hello Jerry, let me first state that revenge is an “after thought”. It is something that you dwell on to get back at someone. If someone breaks into your home, of course defend your family. That is completely different from revenge. Good points though. Defending your home is definitely something that we should all do. God bless!

Troy April 26, 2013 at 8:45 am

Revenge and defending yourself are two different things. The Bible is not telling us to be doormats. Exodus 22:2. Turn the other cheek was in reference to insults.

Derek Hill April 26, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Hello Troy. As I said to Jerry, revenge is an “after thought”. Revenge is a mindset of “I’m gonna make them pay” type of attitude. Defending yourself because you are backed into a corner is a completely different issue which has nothing to do with revenge and all to do with survival. Does that make sense? No where in this article do I express that we should be door mats. Jesus wasn’t and we shouldn’t either. God bless!

Annette Hughes April 26, 2013 at 10:26 am

Derek,
We don’t need to seek revenge.
That is God’s job.
Vengence is mine says the Lord.

Derek Hill April 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Amen Annette! God is the only one that should seek vengeance. God bless!

Jack Wellman April 26, 2013 at 11:45 am

Outstanding work here brother. This is so different from the way the world thinks. We even pray for those who despite us. By the way, Mrs. Hughes, I believe Derek is saying the same thing…that we don’t seek revenge…yes, vengeance is Gods.

And to Troy…Derek never indicates that we are to be doormats and I don’t see Derek saying that in this fine work. To “turn the other cheek,” does not imply pacifism, nor does it mean we place ourselves or others in mortal danger. Like the principle of the eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth in Matthew 5:38, turning the other cheek refers to personal retaliation, not criminal offenses or acts of military aggression. Clearly, Jesus did not mean to negate all God’s laws and injunctions protecting us against violent crime or invading armies. Rather, Jesus is speaking here of the principle of non-retaliation to affronts against our own dignity, as well as lawsuits to gain one’s personal assets (v. 40), infringements on one’s liberty (v. 41), and violations of property rights (v. 42). He was calling for a full surrender of all personal rights.

Turning the other cheek means not to return insult for insult in retaliation, which is what most people expect and how worldly people act. Responding to hatred with love just might grab someone’s attention and afford us a chance to share the gospel. When we respond in a manner that is unnatural, it displays the supernatural power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Jesus was the perfect example because He was silent before His accusers and did not call down revenge from heaven on those who crucified Him.

Just saying….

Derek Hill April 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm

Thank you Jack! I am glad to call you brother! You are always an encourager! As I told the two gentlemen above, revenge is an “after thought”. It is where you decide for yourself that you are gonna make someone pay. I like how you responded in your comments above. It is much better than what I did! LOL! God bless you!

Troy April 26, 2013 at 8:36 pm

Agreed and understood. I apologize for my previous remark. I was in no way trying to call out or condemn another brother in Christ. TO much of that going on in the body. I appreciate you guys and this website that answers
many questions christians have, or that unbelievers often ask christians. The comment he made in the article after he quoted Matthew 5:44 is mainly what drove my comment. I may have reacted without thinking. The article answered a lot of questions of my own. Again I apologize if i sounded condescending. Keep doing what you are doing and God bless
you all.

Derek Hill April 26, 2013 at 9:56 pm

Hello again Troy. I really appreciate how you responded in such a Christ-like way. It is encouraging to see men like you trying to keep unity in the body. You are so right. There is way too much condemnation in the body with gossip and other things. Although, I am still not sure where I might have given off a door mat mentality, it is reassuring to hear such humbleness in another brother’s words! God bless you Troy!

Paul June 14, 2020 at 1:20 am

Derek
Revenge is not just an after thought!!! It is a reaction too!!
Jesus didn’t react in defense!!!
Most people will react at some point!!! Revenge isn’t always planned sometimes it is an immediate reaction!!! Some people call it defending themselves but it actually is a reaction to a wrong they they feel was done to them!!! It takes great strength not to react especially when the attack is physical!!!! Jesus didn’t react because of supernatural spiritual strength which most of us can’t and won’t be able to match with out his spirit dwelling in us and even then it is a great struggle!!!
Walking or running away is builds up spiritual for the next assault that will most certainly come eventually!!!! Practice make perfect!!!!

Andrew Vidler June 8, 2016 at 11:48 am

If another man is trying to steal my wife from me, is it allowed that I physically deal with him (for example – break his nose)? I have warned him to back off – else action will be taken. Please help me practically. Thanks Andrew

Jack Wellman June 8, 2016 at 11:55 am

Thank you Mr. Vidler. I am sorry for your situation but the Bible never approves of getting revenge (Rom 12:17-21) but “To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” Pray for this man’s soul. Christ died for us while still His enemies (Rom 5:10). We are to do good to those who hate, pray for those who persecute us and bless those who despise us (Matt 5). That’s our calling as Christians. Thank you sir.

Andrew Vidler June 8, 2016 at 4:33 pm

Thank you Mr Wellman, I know you speak the truth. Did Jesus not get physically violent though, when the money changers abused the temple? If people cold bloodedly seek to destroy a marriage and subsequently a family. Surely there must be some way of detering this man?

Jack Wellman June 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm

Thank you Mr. Vidler. Jesus had righteous indignation for the people despising the holy place where God placed His name and so He made a whip and drive out the moneychangers who were ripping people off by less-than-honest exchange rates. Even so, we must not take matters into our own hands and seek our own revenge as Paul wrote,”Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it[i] to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good” (Rom 12:17-21). Bad things happen when we take things into our own hands but God’s throne is a one-seater.

Renee March 16, 2018 at 4:22 am

So taking my minuscule problem into consideration I have with my current neighbors, I guess as a Christian I am suppose to let them ruin my life, which is what they are doing by the way, by not letting me sleep and disrupting the life of my 5 year old daughter by throwing objects at the wall and stomping around all hours of the night. How does one handle such a petty problem for 5 years now? I’ve already talked to them by the way which made the problem worse and I’ve asked the Holy Spirit for help with no response. I’ve now stooped to there level. I really don’t have time to play around because the Rapture is at hand. Any Advice?

Jack Wellman March 16, 2018 at 9:42 am

Hello Renee. Have you talked to the landlord? I would turn this in to them. They might not even know that one of their tenants is being such a noisy and terrible neighbor. I hate to see you stoop to their level but I would imagine its nearly impossible to be patient with them. Call the landlord and if they don’t do anything about it, tell them you’re going to look for another place to live. Besides that, there is little you can do.





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