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DocReits August 15, 2014 at 7:35 pm

Great article Pastor Jack,

It is so confusing, IMO, when we attempt to break down how we humans are made in God’s image. I was stumbling over your concluding paragraph putting together your references to God’s Spirit and our human spirit. Do you agree with the following: God is Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Ghost. We humans are made in this image(trinity) of body, soul and spirit.

Our spirit which God gives us returns to God who made it, when we die(Eccle 12:7). Our soul which is our mind, will and emotions(which you call our human spirit in your article), when we die, goes to be with God for those who are saved, or to hell(Gehenna) for those unsaved. Our bodies, when dead, decompose and return to dust, from which Adam was made.

Christ, when resurrected, became the First Born from the dead(Col 1:18). He was different from Lazarus, who was raised from the dead or the widow’s son, in that their resurrected bodies were not glorified and suffered physical death again. Jesus’s body, was glorified in that He could walk through closed doors appearing to the disciples, defy gravity by ascending into heaven and so forth.

Is it your understanding Pastor Jack, that all humans will be resurrected, and receive immortal bodies? The saved will receive physical glorified bodies made up of the physical vestiges of our previous decayed physical bodies, which will be glorified like Jesus’s body. There will be no dualism of a physical and a spiritual body, but one union of the two into a new spiritual body. That is what is meant in scripture as sowing a physical body and changing or raised up a spiritual body(1 Cor 15:44). Physical, but glorified, correct?

The unsaved will also be raised up as immortal, with the vestiges of their physical bodies reuniting with their souls(mind will and emotions, which had been in Gehenna) to appear before the Great White Throne Judgement Seat of God. Their bodies will be spiritual bodies also in that they will live forever, suffering the fire of hell and yet not consumed. Then, and with the wicked angels, once judged, thrown into the Lake of Fire forever(The Second Death, Rev 20:14).

Please correct me where I am wrong and thank you for the interesting article,

DocReits

Jack Wellman August 15, 2014 at 8:04 pm

I think you put it so well my brother. I do believe, like the rich man and Lazarus, he had a body and was in torment in that place, and was thirsty. No spirit or soul alone could thirst, I wouldn’t think. Also, Daniel 12:2-3 says “And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.” Luke 12:4-5 has Jesus saying “I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!” insinuating that both body and soul will be cast into hell. If there is no physical body for the lost then how could they suffer torment for the physical body is where all the nerve endings, senses, and capacity to feel with (having a physical brain). I know that after Jesus was resurrected and even though He is still God He could eat and drink and Thomas could touch His physical body after His resurrection but He could also pass thru walls and doors and obviously the closed, sealed tomb where He was laid.

Without physical bodies, the unsaved would not be affected by fiery torment if they were only spirit so yes, you are correct, both the lost and the saved will be resurrected after Christ’s return and have physical bodies. The term eternal destruction does not mean they will cease to exist, as you likely know. Something can be destroyed. My old lawn mower was accidentally run over. It was totally destroyed and had “eternal destruction” yet it still existed in a physical form so I think you are right my friend…both spirit or soul and the body are going to go on into eternity even though God will have to bring those of us who turned to dust back together again, much like the Valley of Dry Bones in Ezekiel 37:1-14 I believe.

Thanks for always keeping me on my toes, spiritually, and digging deep where few dare to go. I cannot correct you Doc…for I truly believe you are spot on brother. I always want to admit mistakes if discovered or I am informed of them, correct where they are made, and humbly accept teaching from anyone, lay, layman, elders, or pastors. It matters not but it does matter that I get it right!

Patricia Schneider August 16, 2014 at 1:39 pm

Hello, Pastor Jack!
EXCELLENT article with Scriptures!! So was DocReits’ comment! Two of his sentences opened my eyes to comprehending better about the TRINITY of God.
“God is Trinity of Father, Son & Holy Ghost.” (I prefer Holy SPIRIT. LOL!)
And…
“We humans are made in this image (Trinity) of body, mind and spirit.”
Doc’s wording the way he did just popped a light-bulb on in this brain of mine. (Notice, Pastor, I didn’t say ‘dense.’ Hee-Hee!)
THANKS BUNCHES, DocReits!!

What you wrote, Pastor Jack, about the ‘soul’ & the ‘spirit’ meaning the same, is what I always thought, too.
Have a question: You wrote, “…and obviously the closed, sealed tomb where He was laid.” (Referring to how Jesus could walk through walls, etc.)
I always thought Angels opened that huge, stoned ‘door’ of the tomb. In Luke 24:2 “They found the stone rolled away from the tomb,” & in Luke 24:4 “While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightening stood beside them.” (I figured those ‘men’ were Angels.) So, you think Jesus walked through the stone, then the Angels rolled it aside afterwards?

God’s wonderful blessings & His sustaining graces be showered upon you, Pastor Jack, your family, and your ministry!!
Forever your Sis in Christ Jesus ~ Patty

Jack Wellman August 16, 2014 at 2:26 pm

Thanks Patty…as always, a joy to “hear” from you. Yes, the closed tomb was sealed but I should have been more clear that Jesus didn’t need to have the tomb stone rolled away because death couldn’t hold Him and besides, He could pass through walls, stone, or whatever anyway. The stone was rolled away by the angels so that those disciples, including the women could go in and see that He was risen not that Jesus could get out. Yes, the angels did that and I should have mentioned that. Thanks my friend and I thank God for you as well.

vijaya bhaskar August 17, 2014 at 4:20 am

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