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John Davis May 2, 2016 at 2:26 pm

Sorry but I have to disagree here. Jesus was plainly speaking to the disciples and made it very clear that these things were going to happen in their lifetime. He was only speaking to them, there was no one else around. Jesus was clearly speaking about the early persecution of the church and finally in Matthew 24:15, Jesus says that when they saw the “abomination that causes desolation” all in Judea were to flee to the mountains. This happened when the Roman Emperor desecrated the temple and ended animal sacrifice in the late 60’s AD. Jesus told them specifically how not to be fooled and then told them of very specific things like the sun being darkened, the moon not showing light, the stars falling from the sky. Then finally Jesus said that He Himself would appear coming on the clouds of heaven. This is exactly what He told Caiaphas at His trial and said they would be witness to this, in other words ALL of the men who condemned Him to death would see His return. This is all leading up to the destruction of the temple in AD 70. Furthermore, Jesus plainly states in Matthew 24:33-34 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree. As soon as it’s branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near at the door! I assure you this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things take place” So it is rather impossible for Jesus to have been speaking about events some 2000 years in the future and would have been incredibly wrong and irresponsible for Him to tell His disciples of events that would take place that they would not even be alive to witness when He clearly says they would not pass away before all of those things took place. I am sorry but just by reading Jesus words in Matthew 24:34 you are wrong to believe and teach that these “12 signs” are just NOW beginning to happen.

I no doubt believe that you are a very strong Christian who loves the Lord Jesus as much as I do, and I hope that you will take my criticism of your article here as one brother to another.

John Martin April 30, 2020 at 11:45 am

May I propose a historic review of New Testament books, 1 & 2 Thessalonians. The second letter was specifically written to correct the ‘rumor-mill’ teaching they missed the rapture and were living in the Tribulation referred to by The first letter. Proof was offered theY we’re living in the signs of Matthew 24, famines, persecution, etc.
Paul corrected that error in letter 2 with the clarification, none of those signs will be fulfilled until ‘after the man of sin’ is revealed. Further he cannot be revealed until the ‘restraint force’ that opposes him is removed, I.e. the Church being raptured.
I’m a firm believer that Jesus is coming for those who look for his soon return. I encourage you to be one. Watch and Pray, Matt 25:13… blessings

Jack Wellman April 30, 2020 at 12:21 pm

Thank you Mr. Martin.

Dr. Michael L Williams May 3, 2016 at 4:59 pm

Thanks for your comment John. Considering the space limitations of this article you do bring up interesting points. However, with your interpretation there are many things that did not happen as Jesus said, the greatest of which was His return. I understand that preterist or replacement theology advocates also claim that this was all fulfilled in 70 AD with the destruction of the Temple, but the reference to “this generation” as suggesting it would occur in their lifetime leave major holes in this prophecy. Even in Acts 1, when the disciples saw Jesus after the resurrection, they thought that Matthew 24 was being fulfilled (Acts 1:6). They had no clue that there would be a church age that would fulfill the “fullness of the gentiles” taking place before He would return in the clouds. It was obvious to them at His ascension that it was not the time. The destruction of the temple in AD 70 was just the beginning and pointed out as clearly taught in Hebrews 10 that there remained no more sacrifice for sin in the Old Testament practices at the temple. This is why Hebrews 6:1-6 says it was impossible to renew them to repentance, because as believers, they were returning back to the temple to offer sacrifices for sin under the Law that pointed to their need for a Savior. They were not confessing their sins, they were offering a sacrifice that pointed to the need for a Savior. Their sacrifice was tantamount to crucifying Him Christ afresh because it denied that He was the lamb that ended that system and the need for a temple. Likewise, “this generation” as mentioned in the context of this passage refers to the generation that is alive when these things occur, not the generation that was alive at the time Jesus told them this. If this is not so, then we have already seen the tribulation period, the great tribulation and the return of Christ to establish His millennial Kingdom. Those things simply have yet to happen, despite people since the days of the apostles claiming it had occurred, predicting when it would occur, or it would never occur. In addition, it is very clear that if you put Matthew 24 along side Revelation a large portion of the verses in Matthew 24 are specifically referenced in Revelation as coming in the future. John completed the book of Revelation about 96 AD, so it is obvious that those things had not yet occurred or he would have specifically mentioned it as would any other Apostle that may have been alive in AD 70 (some Apostles died before this). Likewise, 1 Thessalonians would also have to be redefined as having already occurring, which includes the revealing of the anti-Christ and the resurrection of the church before God poured out His wrath on the entire earth. The same goes where 2 Peter 3:10 describes the heavens passing away and even the elements melting, which is describing the coming apart of the very atoms that make up all physical matter and is tantamount to nuclear meltdown of cataclysmic proportion. Historically Preterists and Replacement theologians have gotten around this fact by claiming that the book of Revelation was not inspired by God and should never have been included in the Bible along with any other writings after 70 AD. The apologist view would also support that even in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers, something as significant as the return of Christ as the fulfillment of Matthew 24 to establish His Kingdom on earth and the resurrection is nowhere to be found. I appreciate your comments and respect your willingness to discuss this. Blessings

Robert June 21, 2019 at 11:20 pm

very sorry to hear that as a Pastor you fail to realize the apocryphal language of the old covenant that Jesus used. Coming in the clouds refers to judgement, NOT his physical coming in the clouds…It would help you to refer to RC Sproul “The Lat Days according to Jesus” or any of Gary Demars teaching on this. An Eschatology of Victory by J. Marcellus Kik would clear this up for you. God bless you in this wisdom…it truly set me free

Jack Wellman June 22, 2019 at 10:27 am

I have read and followed Dr. R.C. Sproul for years, and we can differ in beliefs, so Acts 1:8 and Rev 1:7 are just metaphors?

cornelius ogundele November 26, 2019 at 9:59 pm

Why do we need to argue about all these? The only doctrine that matters is this: The virgin birth, the sinless life, the atoning death (saved by His blood shed on calvary), the resurrection, the ascension into heaven, sitting down at the right hand of God, and second coming of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,

Anyone who believes the above is a Christian.

Jack Wellman November 26, 2019 at 10:11 pm

But Jesus said that whoever loves me does what I command (i.e. Matt 25:35-36; 28:18-20) so a faith that is without works is a dead faith (James). Even the demons believe but are not saved. The Old English word for “believe” is “to be living” in essence. We do things that are produced by the Holy Spirit (John 15) but we do them unto Him (Matt 25:40). If we do nothing for Him, that’s a huge issue (Matt 25:41-46). The demons believe in “: The virgin birth, the sinless life, the atoning death (saved by His blood shed on calvary), the resurrection, the ascension into heaven” but they have never repented of their sins as we do. It’s not arguing sir…it’s getting it right biblically. Thank you for your comment sir.

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John Martin April 30, 2020 at 11:47 am

Thank you

Mike July 2, 2020 at 7:51 am

The words Christ spoke are now manifesting in Matthew 24:6-8

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