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Laurel April 24, 2017 at 1:22 pm

This article did not answer my question, which wasn’t really if humans exist before conception. It does adequately answer what it set out to answer… but, it touched on my question in the Ecc. 12:7 quote about the spirit. Going back to the bridge analogy, there was iron in the forge before it was cast, and there was ore in the ground before it was mined. We would not call it a bridge at that point, however, if that iron was spirit that came from God instead of a ferrous ore that came from the earth, would “spirit” have awareness? Would the raw materials that form a human preexist and convey any of those properties into the newly formed human? Can deep call to deep (Ps 42:7) in the waters of the womb in this context?

Jack Wellman April 24, 2017 at 2:02 pm

Hello Laurel. Nothing existed before God and there was no matter before the creation, of course, The spirit is our human spirit but Solomon’s context, which is found in the entire chapter, is about living this life and getting older (Ecl 12:1-7) and not about the eternal state of man after judgment. Context means everything in this verse. Thank you for your question.

Rev Seby July 2, 2019 at 12:01 pm

Sorry but your reply is incomplete and does not answer the question by Laurel.
If all the scriptures are is “story telling and metaphors” we are for sure in trouble.
Please forgive me for my forwardness but these type answers confuse people.
Thank you for your work

Jack Wellman July 2, 2019 at 1:45 pm

Thank you sir, but what would you answer? What would your answer be? Please let us hear it pastor. We existed before creation, but only in God’s mind. WE could not have existed physically before, but only after conception. It is easy to criticize others, but usually it is fair to offer your own answer. We recieved our spirit, the human spirit, only after conception. The Bible supports no further view and to speculate is a slippery slope.

Mark Bouldin January 24, 2018 at 1:18 am

Christ tells us we must be “born again” (born from above) born of woman…the fallen angels refused to be born of woman and came to Earth contrary to God’s will.. (Jude) God hated Esau before he became flesh…this flesh is a platform for us to choose whom we will serve….

Jack Wellman January 24, 2018 at 8:52 am

Hello Mr. Bouldin. I believe angels can never be born again. They are spirit and spirit cannot be born again. I see no examples in the Bible and angels were not able to be born of a woman because they existed long before humans did.

Danna May 28, 2018 at 2:11 pm

If as you stated above, God for knew all who would follow Him and who would not, how is there a choice to chose God or reject Him? I thought we had choice and that and after the fall of Satan in Genesis 1:1, is when God gave us that choice.

Jack Wellman May 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm

Jesus said whomever will come to Me may have eternal life, so all those who choose God do so if they come. Jesus will not come to you. We do have choice and are responsible for our choices, but read Romans 1 and 2 to see that humans in general, still reject God and His existence because of their immoral lifestyle. God cannot be completely understood, nor His ways made known fully. We trust Him anyway.

Gift May 3, 2020 at 11:01 am

Let me first of all thank almighty for leading me today to the most imported topic “Did humans existed with God before they were born.” I am one person who believe in how you completely explained by laying out biblical facts which are explicitly and vividly comprehensible. I pray that all human beings alike ask almighty through his Holy Spirit to permanently open our spiritual eyes to see and understand his word.

Joe Doe February 11, 2021 at 9:33 am

No scripture Galatians 6:23 exists





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