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Robert Miller March 4, 2014 at 7:56 am

Quick question Jack: You said we are to pray to the Father alone, through Jesus, and in the Spirit. Does this mean it’s sinful to speak/pray directly to Jesus or the Holy Spirit?

Jack Wellman March 4, 2014 at 8:21 am

Thank you Mr. Miller. I see nothing wroth with praying or speaking directly to Jesus or the Holy Spirit at all. It most certainly is not sin but Jesus also said to pray to the Father thru His name and Paul said that the Spirit helps us in our prayers when we don’t know what to ask for but to Jesus and the Holy Spirit, there is nothing inherently wrong as long as this is not the typical patter. For more on a biblical model of prayer please read this Mr. Miller at: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-should-i-pray-a-biblical-analysis/ Thank you sir.

DocReits March 4, 2014 at 11:45 am

Thank you Jack for the article. I love the story in 2 Kings 6:17 when Elisha asks God to open the eyes of his servant:

“And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.”

I believe, as you said, that there are angels around us, protecting us from the hoard serving Satan.

The other point you raise is an important one in praying to the Father. Jesus wanted all praise and honor directed toward His Father, which we often lose sight of in worship.

OTOH, there is Biblical precedence for praying to Jesus as Stephen did when he was being stoned in Acts 7:59:

“While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.””

Ultimately the Three are One, so the point is rather moot, but our “default” setting, as you said, should be for relationship with the Father which Jesus secured with His Blood, mediated through the power of the Holy Spirit, working in the heart of the believer.

Good food Jack. Thank you!

DocReits

Jack Wellman March 4, 2014 at 5:15 pm

Thanks brother for your always encouraging comments. You are a Barnabas to this website and I thank God for you. As for Stephen, I don’t know if it was as much a prayer as a welcome me Jesus, here I come but you are are so spot on in this comment that I can say nothing but well said Doc. Thanks much.

Jack H March 6, 2014 at 3:15 pm

Hello, Pastor Jack! 😀 Again, you have researched this topic to the fullest and relied on the Holy Spirit to produce the best results! And on an unrelated note, did you hear that scientists have discovered an ancient virus in Russia, exposed by the melting permafrost? And what’s more interesting is, it has no ability to infect humans whatsoever! Do you know what this means? ^_^ God has answered the skeptic’s groans and gripes, and provided some crucial evidence that proves there was no illness in creation and explains why there wasn’t any illness in the first place! What people sadly don’t realize is that science does indeed point to God’s truth, but it has been corrupted for the past 100 years by atheistic bigwigs. True, the Catholics of the Middle Ages tried to be scientists and failed, but science is never really complete anyway. There is ALWAYS something being discovered, and there is also evidence that earthquakes generate electricity! Blessings to you, Pastor, and I hope you enjoy this new information!
Thanks, Jack H 😀

Jack Wellman March 6, 2014 at 8:58 pm

Greetings Jack. Love to always hear from you brother. You are so right. The world and humans were perfect before the fall. You are spot on and this proves what God said in the beginning, that “It was good.” God is a God of order and not of chaos (1 Cor 14:33). This is the theme of the book, and later the film, the Privileged Planet by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards (Regnery Publishing 2004). The perfect and precision of God’s creation is plainly known to science. If the moon were any closer or further away…if the earth’s axis were not exactly where it is, and other such scientific evidences of particulars on earth, life could not have existed. The false idea that this was blind chance is so astronomically impossible that mathematicians cannot comprehend the odds. This symmetry reflects God’s nature in the beauty of the creation and a beauty that we can only imagine. There was no doubt proportional balance and a beauty form that necessarily arose from these perfectly balanced proportions. The heavens declare the glory of the work of His hands (Psalm 19:1). Dr. Babcock’s’ suggestion that we use the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible (NRSV) makes Psalm 19:1 fit perfectly with the point I am making as it says “The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.” They do tell about God and they are telling of His glory. The creation is indicative that God should be glorified and mankind’s proper response should be to live a holy life worthy of His creating us, and that He is most worthy (worth ascribed to) to be worshiped and we know that He seeks glory for Himself and seeks those who would worship Him in spirit and truth as Jesus said in John 4:23-24. To worship God in disorder is not truth and to not worship God sincerely is not in the right spirit. Truth without the spirit is religion. Spirit without truth is error. I seek to do both and in the church I am the under-shepherd of, I hope that we strive for both…and that to worship Him in spirit and in truth in a harmonious manner without confusion.

What He creates is also good and that it why I believe that after God had created the heavens and the earth was that He also said that “It was good.” What God creates is good and knowing that whatever is repeated must be of supreme importance for us to know and importance to God. The phrase “And God saw that it was good” is repeated 5 times so the author is emphasizing to us that God Himself saw that it was good and so it must necessarily be good and because God is good, this same good of the created things must also be perfect and without blemish.

Thanks for the new info…I love it and love you too Jack H.





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