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Sarah October 15, 2012 at 6:14 am

Hi there 🙂
This is certainly an interesting article, but I do have something that may be of interest for the readers and writer about the age of the earth. If you have a few minutes to spare, please check out this article, it’ll change your mind on whether you think it’s a “non-essential” or not:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v18/n1/six-days

I pray you’re blessed by it,
Sarah.

carolyn October 15, 2012 at 8:56 am

Thanks so much for this article. I’m rethinking everything about my Christian faith after many years. I think I have finally found the truth.
But one area puzzles me. Baptism. “He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.” You didn’t mention baptism.
What are your thoughts please.

Robert October 15, 2012 at 11:36 am

Thank you for a very timely article, Jack. While the topics you mention are still very important (some more than others), you are right to say that Christians should still be able to fellowship with one another while holding differing views. Your point about what is essential to salvation and what is not is also very important to keep in mind. While I think that Christians should seek to understand what and why they believe the way they do concerning creation (I happen to be a literal 6-day guy), do’s and don’ts, the endtimes, etc., I think discussion is much more productive than divisive debate. Thanks again, Jack. You’ve force me to think.
Yours in Christ,
Robert

Derek Hill October 16, 2012 at 12:43 am

Thank you for this article Jack. I agree with you that all Christians need to allow other Christians to believe the non-essential issues. The important thing is to always love our fellow brothers and sisters and keep walking beside them, for we are all on the same journey. God bless!

Brett December 12, 2012 at 12:25 pm

John 17:3 says that the Father is the only true God. Why would I believe Jesus is God? He is the Son of God and one who is a son can’t be his own Father.

Jack Wellman December 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm

Brett. You do not believe that Jesus is God? I am sorry that you don’t be He is God too. John 17:3 is God in the plural sense like in Genesis “Elohim” which is the plural form of God. Read Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” When first encountered, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, when we look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement, “For a good work we stone thee not; replied the Jews, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.” (John 10:33). Now we see an actual claim. The Jews understood Jesus’ statement to be a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus never corrects the Jews by saying, “I did not claim to be God.” That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30).

John 1:1 says that “the Word was God.” John 1:14 says that “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” This clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “…Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased the church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!

You took John 17:3 and left it alone which is was not intended to do so. You can not quote one Scripture and claim it as doctrine. You have to read the entire chapter or you are taking text out of context and making it a pretext and a false one at that. Did you read the rest of John 17? It says in vs 20 “for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world”

Brett December 12, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Actually, I believe Jesus did correct them in verse 36 when he stated what he actually claimed…I am the Son of God.

Brett December 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm

You said: Did you read the rest of John 17? It says in vs 20 “for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us,”

I don’t exactly see how that verse tells me that Jesus is God.

Jack Wellman December 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm

I am gathering that you do not believe that Jesus is God, is that right?

Robert December 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Jesus said, “I and the Father are one”? (John 10:30 ESV)

Even those who heard Him say this took it to mean that He was saying He was God:

John 10:31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but(F) for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

(See also John 17:11 and 17:22)

Robert December 13, 2012 at 7:38 am

Brett,
There is ample evidence in the Bible (not just one verse) for Jesus being God. If you are truly interested in that evidence, I would suggest you read “The Case for Christ” as it lays it out clearly. There are also articles on this site which would help with understanding this issue. There have been, and will continue to be, people who deny that Jesus is God…but their claims that the Bible teaches this cannot be substantiated.
Who do you say Jesus is, Brett?
Yours in Christ,
Robert





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