What Does the Bible Say About Forgiveness? A Biblical Study

by Derek Hill on July 12, 2012 · Print Print · Email Email

Forgiveness is one of the “key” words of the Christian faith.  If God had not included forgiveness in His plan for humanity, none of us would enjoy life renewed with Him in heaven.  Without forgiveness there would be no hope at all.

God And Forgiveness

So, let us start with Daniel 9:9. To the Lord our God belong mercy and forgiveness, for we have rebelled against Him.  Our awesome Father in heaven was the creator of forgiveness and so it belongs to Him and He lavishes us with it abundantly every day.  Sometimes I will sit and ponder the unfathomable amount of patience God has for us.  God knew from the beginning of time ALL of the sins that would take place.  Can you imagine the burden He has carried this whole time?  It is a burden of love that only the Father could carry.

Now we know that God forgives freely anyone that comes to Him, but if you are not a Christian or are very new to the faith, you may not know how to receive forgiveness.  1 John 1:9 says, If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness It really is that simple.  This is not just a confession, though.  We all have confessed things in our lives that we didn’t feel regret for.  The type of confession described here is a confession of heart-felt shame from what we have done.  This is a confession of remorse for what has taken place.  This remorse goes hand-in-hand with repentance.  When you cry out to God for His forgiveness of your sins, you must not forget about your repentant heart.  Without it, you will fall right back into the same sin.  Repentance means to turn away.

What Does The Bible Say About Forgiveness

Christians And Forgiveness

Forgiveness does not just come from God but also from His flock.  Luke 17:3-4 says, Pay attention to yourselves!  If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him, and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, “I repent”, you must forgive him.  This is not always easy.  If repentance is genuine, it must always be forgiven, even if it is the same sin over and over again.  Human nature wants to push us in the direction of giving up on someone who is in perpetual sin because we tend to stop believing in someone who is constantly engaged in sin, but the Bible is clear on this issue.  God NEVER gives up on His children who come in His name to ask for forgiveness, which is why we cannot give up either.

For true forgiveness to take place, one must completely take pride out.  A proud heart will never truly forgive.  Matthew 6:14-15 says, For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.  This really does sum up a prideful heart.  You absolutely cannot expect to be forgiven if you are too proud to forgive someone else.  Pride has no place in a Christian’s heart.

Forgiveness can be a real struggle because genuine forgiveness comes even when repentance is not expressed.  Forgiveness is sometimes a daily thing for an event that happened earlier in life.  I had three dear friends of mine taken to be with the Lord when they were killed by a drunk driver.  Just two days before I was playing with my three year old and his best friend who was also three.  We had so much fun playing with the fire trucks and saving people from burning buildings.  Then two days later, out of nowhere, a person well over the legal limit of alcohol struck their vehicle.  That little boy that I had played with was thrown at least 20 to 30 feet out of the car through the window.  He died in the hospital while his daddy held his hand and grieved.  These tragic moments should never happen but when they do, it is most important to remember that they always come from satan.  The woman who killed them fell into the devil’s snare and she deserves forgiveness just as much as anyone else.  I had to forgive her daily for a whole year before I was finally ready to move on.  It was one of the hardest times of my life, but forgiveness allowed me to let go of hatred and bitterness that I could still be holding today.

Ultimate Forgiveness

The ultimate act of forgiveness is when Christ, Himself, was hanging on that cross, bloody and bruised.  The absolute humiliation that was put on Him is unimaginable.  He had already had His flesh ripped open as He was beaten and then He was mocked with the crown of thorns and a robe.  After the soldiers put the robe on Christ, they mocked Him saying, “Hail, King of the Jews.”(Mark 15:18)  They also spit on Him and struck Him on the head.  He also carried His own cross up to Golgotha as far as He could go.  He was completely drained.  Then the sounds of hammer and nails piercing His hands and feet traveled for those to hear nearby.  The excitement of the crowd as they screamed, “crucify Him,” had to be absolutely gut wrenching to His mother, Mary, as she watched not just her savior, but her own son being tortured and ridiculed.  After all of this had taken place, Jesus called out to the Father saying, “Father, forgive them…”(Luke 23:34).  If there was ever a moment in history where someone deserved a “free-pass” on forgiveness, it was at the cross.  Yet, Christ understood the true meaning of forgiveness.  He was the perfect example for all.  May we all strive to forgive everyone as Christ continually forgives us.  Praise be to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior!

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Robert July 12, 2012 at 7:01 am

Wonderful Derek,
Thanks for reminding us that we are not only forgiven, but we need to be forgiving. Great work. God bless you.
Yours in Christ,
Robert

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Derek Hill July 12, 2012 at 7:18 pm

Thank you Robert. I believe that forgiveness is an issue that we as believers are constantly tested in. It is through laying our burdens on Christ that we can let go of hurt.
God bless!

Derek

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Mr A Cotton December 15, 2012 at 4:18 pm

Hi Derek it mentioned above don`t forget about your repentant heart. What is this. I am beginning to lack faith that you just ask God to forgive you,and he does has you said above it`s that simple. I am beginning to doubt this(Doubting Thomas)and you are right that it is an issue that we are constantly tested in. I have anxiety state which leads to depression,and i live alone which makes it worse.
If it wasn`t for the Holy Spirit I would be doomed. I accepted it off Jack in two posts that he wrote to me about this,and i began to slowly accept this,but now i am doubting it. I am finding it hard after committing the sin of masturbation you just turn round and say to God i am sorry,and mean it. You cannot just turn your emotions off say from happiness to joy. The hardest bit is to mean it. I mean it but i don`t feel it,so i wait a bit,because i feel ashamed,and guilty,and feel like i have just spat in Gods face,and told him to get lost,so how can i mean it. I want to mean it,but i can`t. So would God understand this,and still forgive me. Derek

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Derek Hill December 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm

Hello again Mr A Cotton. It is always good to hear from you. You reminded me a lot of Paul in your message. In Romans 7:18-20 Paul says, “For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.” You are no different then Paul, Mr. Cotton. Paul struggled with sin just as much as you and I. From your message, you sound very discouraged and depressed over your sin, which is a good thing Mr. Cotton. You are feeling this way because the Holy Spirit has convicted you of your sin. You said you “mean it but don’t feel it”. This is one of Satan’s greatest weapons. If you already mean it, I encourage you to ask for forgiveness. God forgives every honest confession of sin. 1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Sometimes we all put God in a box and think, “God cannot possibly forgive me right now after i just sinned.” God can’t be put in a box, though. He is so much greater then we can fathom and he is faithful to all of His promises, including the verse from 1 John 1:9. Remember that Paul used to be named Saul and he was involved with the persecution and murder of innocent Christians. God forgave him for his sin and He can forgive yours too sir. Please don’t wait any longer. God is wanting you to ask for forgiveness right now. I love your messages Mr. Cotton because they are genuine and real, and that my friend is what true Christianity is all about. God bless you sir!

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Mr A Cotton December 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Thanks Derek for answering my post. It`s a habit i have had all my life,and i was never away from the confessional box. Yes this sin has plagued me all my life,and you are right. I don`t want to do it,has you say. Yes i do feel really down,and i want to “mean it”,but “i can`t”,so that makes me a hypocrite. I take medication for my condition,and i will be 64 on 31st of Dec. I am finding it really hard to type this. So do ask God to forgive me when in my head i don`t mean it,but i want to mean it in my head. This is a battle in my head. What do i do? I am in Despair!

Derek Hill December 16, 2012 at 2:45 pm

I encourage you to read and memorize scripture, especially ones that deal with temptation and repentance. “God is faithful, and He will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with temptation He will also provide a way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.” (1 Corinthians 10:13) You really need to dive into His Word and saturate your mind with it. I know you believe in God and you believe His promises, so think about this verse every time sin creeps in on you. God does not allow Satan to tempt you more than you can bear. God will give you a way out of the sin in your life. “I have blotted out your transgressions (sin) like a cloud and your sins like mist; return to me, for I have redeemed you.” (Isaiah 44:22) God wants you to repent badly Mr. Cotton. I know you have it in you. Feeling something and doing something are different things. I go to work every day because I have to and usually not because I want too. Do you see what I mean? You can repent even when you are depressed or feel guilty. God will forgive you. “I confess my iniquity (sin); I am sorry for my sin.” (Psalm 38:18) I am praying for you Mr. Cotton. God is calling you to repentance. Please don’t wait any longer. He absolutely loves you and He is ready to forgive you right now. God bless you!

Mr A Cotton December 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm

After i finished writing the post i went through it to get it right. I was very upset,and i waited till i calmed down. I did this – In my head i don`t want to do it.
– In my head i want to do it. I used two taps in the bathroom,putting my hand on the Left Tap I don`t want to do it. The answer was NO, i have not done it for 3 days,it`s making me bad,and i am offending God,and i want to go to Heaven.
Right Tap – I want to do it. It`s a sin,it`s making me bad,I am Offending God, I will not go to Heaven the answer was YES if i took notice of the Right Tap i would be Doomed.
The Answer came,by God,or the Holy Spirit,and Jesus,and hit me,and i grabbed the Left Tap i broke down and asked to be Forgiven. I new i was Forgiven,and cried with relief. I wasn`t aware for a period of time,Then i felt, and I knew I was forgiven.
After a while i went calm,and the thoughts above left me. I was a bit anxious waiting for you to answer me.
You did. I feel now has though i had been in a battle,and now i am resting with a much more clear mind. Thanks Dereck,and now i know this was done,using you has a tool.You do not know how much you helped me through this. Thanks Derek!

Derek Hill December 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm

I am praising God for how He has drawn you back to Him Mr. Cotton! I knew you had it in you. This is how you can be assured that you are saved. You felt bad over your sin and you did, indeed, repent of it. Just always remember that God can forgive you always if you just ask Him. He loves you so much and I am so glad that you asked for forgiveness brother! God bless you!

Jeff July 12, 2012 at 11:15 am

Greetings Derek,
Thanks be to God that forgiveness is full and free in Christ leading to salvation but for us redeemed sinners it is often a learned grace. Christians sometimes forget all that they have been forgiven of and as a result we become cheap in dispensing grace to others when called on to forgive. When we keep in mind all that we as individuals have been forgiven of before God it should, at the very least produce 2 biblical responses – #1) it goes a long way in keeping one humble & #2) it should make it easier & quicker for us forgive others when wronged as we recall all that Jesus has forgiven us of. The example is always in Christ.
Saved by His Grace,
Jeff

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Derek Hill July 12, 2012 at 7:21 pm

Thanks Jeff. Those are wise thoughts. I totally agree. When we realize how filthy we are as sinners and how Christ freely forgives us every time we mess up, it should be much easier for us to forgive others. Thank you for those thoughts

God bless!
Derek

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Pamela Rose Williams July 12, 2012 at 4:05 pm

Hello Derek,

I really like what you said and how you said it in this article. My favorite quote is “A proud heart will never truly forgive.” You nailed it brother. Thank you for such words of wisdom and I know they come from your study of God’s Word. Glory to Him!

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Pamela Rose Williams July 12, 2012 at 4:07 pm

PS, I am hopeful that many will be encouraged and enlightened from this article. Forgiveness is a subject on which we receive many comments here at WCWTK.

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Derek Hill July 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm

Thank you for your kind words Pam. Pride is a selfish human issue that when unaccounted for can destroy someone and others around them. All praise to God who never holds back forgiveness to us!!

In His Awesome Name,

Derek

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Jack Wellman July 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Well done Derek. I must say your conclusion is epic. That is the challenge for us all…to be Christ-like is to forgive like Christ did. Forgive me for saying so (LOL), a very beautiful presentation of the very heart of Christianity brother.

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Derek Hill July 12, 2012 at 7:29 pm

Thank you Jack for your words of encouragement. The amount of grace, mercy and forgiveness that God gives is absolutely wonderful. We as believers cannot lose sight of that.

PS I like your sense of humor! I really did laugh out loud when i read that!

All Praise to Hom,
Derek

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admin July 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm

Welcome and great job with your first article on WCWTK. Looking forward to many more!

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Derek Hill July 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm

Thank you Josh. Im also looking forward to writing many more! God is an amazing God, and to be able to write about Him is a blessing in itself!

God bless!

Derek

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Dereck July 14, 2012 at 12:30 pm

Hello Derek,

This was a great article. When I read in the article, and the different scriptures about Jesus’ crucifiction, it brought tears to my eyes. He thought so much of us that He asked the Father to forgive us when we thought so littile of Him. It blows my mind. I have believed in God and Jesus Christ almost my whole life, I have been been saved since 1987, I got baptized in 2000. During ALL of that time, I still managed to do stuff that was only good for me. I did stuff that made me feel good. I did not do for others like Jesus did and yet I KNEW what He did, I read about them. God, please forgive me!! I try to pray for that forgiveness everyday. And I try to give that forgiveness to others.

Derek, thanks, Keep the Faith Brother.

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Derek Hill July 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Hello Dereck. Thank you for your transparency here. We all need His forgiveness everyday. I still do stuff only for me because of my selfish human-nature. The thing that gets me everytime in the story of Christ’s crucifixion, besides His horrible death is actually when He is in the garden. All He wanted was to be with His closest friends and they fell asleep on Him. Our Lord and savior reached out for them asking them to stay and watch with Him. They fell asleep 3 times!! I imagine their prayers for forgiveness were heavy and sorrowful. Our God is an Awesome God who gives His grace and mercy to His children with no questions asked. I hope and pray that believers can reach that point too, where we can forgive no matter what has happened. God Bless you Dereck. Thank you for stopping by. Feel free to come back anytime you like.

In His Glorious Name,
Derek

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Dereck July 14, 2012 at 5:41 pm

Thanks Derek,

I do come here qiute a bit, a lot of times it is when Jack is writing. I need to ask for His grace and mercy. I hope and pray that I can learn more as we contine on. Thank-you Derek

Dereck

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matthew Jallah July 16, 2012 at 4:29 am

I read about forgiveness, but how can one be forgive by God?
Because in this one commit sin that I think God can not forgive them. If you was a believer

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Derek Hill July 16, 2012 at 4:42 pm

Hello Matthew,

If I read you correctly, one can be forgiven by God because God created forgiveness. He wouldn’t create something so precious and not use it. All you have to do is ask sincerely and God will forgive you everytime. The second part of your comment is correct. There is one sin that is not forgiveable. It is called the unpardonable sin. This occurs when someone attributes blessings and gifts from God to satan. If you know that God has done something in your life and you give satan credit instead, you will never be forgiven for that. Other then that, you can be forgiven for anything if you are sincere. Thank you for stopping by and please come back anytime you like. God bless you!

Derek

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Yram August 4, 2012 at 2:52 am

oh I thought the only sin not forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit as the scriptures say. Aside that all others are forgiven if theres true repentance.

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Derek Hill August 4, 2012 at 9:36 am

Thank you for your input Yram. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the same thing as the unpardonable sin. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit when you attribute God’s blessing to Satan instead and that is why it is unpardonable, meaning you cannot be pardoned from it. Both mean the same thing.

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nida Adrias July 16, 2012 at 8:48 am

yes , i believed that if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleans us for our unrigtheousness. .. God is willing to forgive we sinners… thanks for sharing us about forgiveness… i enjoyed reading it….God richly bless us….as we continue trusting and loving Him.

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Derek Hill July 16, 2012 at 4:46 pm

Amen Nida! God is absolutely amazing! We do not deserve anything from God at all, and He is willing to forgive us everytime we sin. Praise be to Him!! Thank you for visiting WCWTK. Come back anytime!

In His Glorious Name,

Derek

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Cat July 23, 2012 at 9:09 pm

I live in Colorado and Auroa is not that far…I have read the nasty comments people have said in response to the Movie theater shooting…especially the young man who was shoot but said he was choosing to try and forgive his shooter! I have also read the comments that boil down to God being dead and Christians being stupid…one mentioned that the riffle jammed and nobody acted…that if you just pray, you become prey!
This is cutting to my soul…Not only do I believe this young man is not insane (he studied psychology, bought all this stuff long in advance, and didn’t plan on dying), but I do believe he is unsaved despite the upbringing he had. There are many who play lip service to God and the bible says this is a sign of his comming nearer…that there will be those who appear to be godly but do not know him and churches that will accept false doctrine. This day in age, with homosexuals being allowed to preach from the pulpit while actively living the lifestyle, how can we doubt this? At some point this young man let the devil in and I would not be surprised if he is possessed, or at the least knowingly carrying out the devils plans. Not only did this evil act kill so many but it is causing a debate online about where our God was…Why we choose to forgive…and why good people suffer? We know this and it is time to remind the rest of the world that God told us this would happen…It is unfolding in front of our eyes as we watch!
This was my response to those on the face book link and to any who come here with questions on forgiveness for this man…It is in response to the young shooting victims’ desire to forgive…

What he doesn’t realize is that he has already shown mercy by making the decision not to hate and to work toward forgiving! Forgiveness and mercy don’t mean that you forget, or that they don’t have to face justice…It just means that you are leaving justice in Gods’ Hands and refusing to let this mans actions further impact your life. Forgiveness doesn’t happen overnight and is not accomplished in one single decision and then forgotten. It is getting up everyday and feeling the hurt and anger but getting down on your knees and asking God to take that from you…first you may have to do this every hr, then several times a day, then everyday, and so on! God knows what is in your heart and will get you there! Besides, As Christians, we are told that we must forgive those who wrong us, or God will hold his forgiveness from us…Mark 11:25-26. People forget that forgiveness is not neccessarily about the person who hurt you. When we fail to forgive, we stall our healing processes because all that pain and anger can be a heavy weight to carry. It can also be ammunition for Satan to use against us in warfare…he will use any wound, or weakness against us! The lack of forgiveness works both ways…failing to forgive keeps us from healing completely and asking someone for forgiveness that is withheld, can also leave a big open wound!

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Cat July 23, 2012 at 9:16 pm

As for not attacking the shooter when his riffle jammed…Trying to see a guy in black, in a smoke filled room, with flash bang devices going off, is not that easy! I have a concelled weapons permit but in that environment it may not have done anyone any good. Flash bang devices are met to distract and disorientate…Have you ever had a camera flash in your eyes? You don’t see anything for a few seconds and this was even more blinding.

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Derek Hill July 23, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Hi Cat. First off I just want to say that my heart goes out to all of the victims in this tragedy. If you have been affected by this, my heart goes out to you too. As Christians, our responses to tragedy need to be as Christ-like as possible. This means praying for the victims and their families plus those who are still in the hospitals and recovering. The end times may be here, but regardless, we need to show love to everyone because Christ commands it. Our world right now has the same sin that it did back in Sodom and Gomorah. That city was rampant with sexual immorality, just like our world today. Only God knows the hearts of man. Retribution and judgment are in His hands and as His followers we must hold fast to His truth and follow His Word. You are in a battlefield out there right now and the only ammunition that you have that will have an impact is love. Pray for those who persecute you and keep fighting the good fight. These kinds of events showcase nothing but the devil’s wicked agenda and we know his end already! He has already lost! Forgiveness is a day to day battle sometimes, just like you said and like I did also in my article. You are completely right. Holding onto the hate only harms us. We need to release these feelings to God. He is the ultimate Healer. I pray that you continue on in love towards the God-haters and all of those who are suffering out there. God bless you!

Derek

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Dereck July 24, 2012 at 12:08 am

Hi Cat,

I am so sorry about this incident. I have been praying for those people that were killed and there families, the injured and the person who did this terible thing.

If you saw on the news though, this person planned much, much more that did not take place. This guy had his place booby trapped so that if anyone came in, the place would blow up.

Now, as my pastor always tells us, things could always be worse, if not for God.

Now, I know that people are upset at what happened, and, there was loss of life, but, as you have said, God told us that this would happen.

It is hard to watch and it is hard to hear people disrespect God because things do not go smooth like they would like.

Sometimes, I do not like the way things go in my life, but, the last thing I am going to do is curse out my help.

If Jesus Christ can take all that He took for us, then we have to realize that we need to just stay on our knees and pray to almighty God to help us hold on.

Keep the faith

Dereck

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Cat July 24, 2012 at 2:36 am

Thanks Dereck….You clarified my point even more! With what I am reading through these links, people are struggling with the concept of forgiveness. As Christians, we may be initially angry but we can’t afford to let our guards down…In this case it is even more vital to show love and forgiveness because we have to be the light and shine as an example for those who know no differance. Satan is using this to attack a very important part of our faith! Those haters who are comming out online scare me…not because they can hurt me personally but because they remind me of people full of venom! Since living here I have seen more Wiccans and Satanist then ever before and seen enough to know this stuff is real. Not to concerned with Wicca but the Satanist are another story. I have customers come in with satanic pentagrams tattooed and wearing it as jewlrey. I know for some this is a faze but for others, they would like nothing more than to do his bidding and cause panic, fear, and even death if it suited their purpose. Colorado is on the frontlines at the moment as we are a hub of Christianity and its exact opposite literally living side by side. It is not something you see occasionally but more and more! Sad thing is that it scares most of our churches into silence on the issue even though they know it exist on our doorstep!

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Cat July 24, 2012 at 2:44 am

I often wonder what happend to these people that was so bad to cause them to hold in so much anger and hate. Especially hate against Christians. What caused them to not just choose not to believe in our Savior but to actually worship his enemy? How badly they must have been hurt by someone at sometime…As for the shooter whose name I feel should be blacked out of history so he gets no noteriety for his actions, I wonder what happend to fill him with so much hate and when he decided to be an agent of the Devil? I hate their actions but feel almost sorry for the person who somehow must have been hurt very badly to choose to serve chaos and evil! There is more going on here than meets the eye and definitely more going on than a broken love affair.

Cat July 24, 2012 at 2:57 am

No, I was not personaly affected by this act. I have to say that my statement on forgiveness is not original…It was something attributted to the Amish when they went through the school house shooting. What happend there really got me thinking on Christian forgiveness.

I would not be surprised if some of these neg comments about Christians and forgiveness were comming from those who serve our enemy! It was not until I read some of those comments that I realized how much this incident is a part of a bigger war. We all really need to pray and stand fast against the tide that I fear is comming…it will separate those who believe truely from those Christians who are corrupted by the worldliness! May God give us all the strength to hold on to our Faith and its uncompromisable values!

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Derek Hill July 24, 2012 at 12:38 pm

You are absolutely right! We do need to hold fast to our faith. Always remember that anyone who is not devoted to God will always fulfill selfish human desires caused by Satan. We are told that “we will be hated”(Luke 21:17) and it is important to never stop forgiving those who persecute us and to keep praying for them too. God bless you and watch over you as you are in this chaotic time!

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Cat August 15, 2012 at 4:24 am

Hi Jack…I know you hear from muslims and former muslims on this site and I am hoping you can answer a question I know is going to come up soon. It is my belief that the true teachings of the Muslim faith teach to respect women to an extent, it is not in support of the abuse many women in the middle east face under the terrorist extremest Muslim rule which has chosen to twist this into a religion of fear for even their own people and have been in support of jihad on Christians. This is a military town and I know soon, this will become a hot topic and there will be those who will chose to show hate toward all Muslims in this city because of the acts of these men.

I guess maybe I should explain myself…Tonight I found out for the first time that my apartment complex has failed to inform us of a vary violent rape that occured here last month. I am not happy with them as I just renewed my lease last week and told them how safe I felt here and they said nothing! This was a safe complex and we have many single women who work late, come home and walk the dog, get mail, do laundry and feel safe doing it. Most of the men here are military and most military have some sense of honor to where I wouldn’t think twice about going into our secluded basement laundry room and doing laundry if a man was in there. Now I will question the wisdom of doing so if that man is of Arab decent and I do not know him…sad, because I know those born here are no more a threat than anyone else!

You see, I live in the complex that just made the news for the violent rape of one of our young women by 5 Iraqi nationals who have been living here in our complex. They were allowed into the U.S. because they helped our military in Iraq and have been living here for Five yrs. You would think that would be long enough to know women here have rights and feel safe with most of their neighbors…this is Colorado, not L.A. The news said Police stated this was the most violent rape case they have ever seen…there was blood everywhere and she had sever internal injuries due to blunt force trauma! These men have been roaming the complex for a month until their arrest in the last few days…two were arrained today. Nobody even gave us any warning that the women here needed to be cautious because we had a rapist on the loose. They didn’t need to give names, or even an apt. number…just let women know to be more alert! I am not happy and I hope they will at least let us know if they make bail…I am not looking forward to having to arm myself to laundry!

I know that it is not all Arab/Muslim men but it is sad that now women here are going to have to question whether or not they trust a neighbor who is of that lineage! As one man ( a professor) pointed out and I do know to be true…In that culture any woman who lets herself in any way become in a situation where she is alone with a man who is not of her family, is considered to be immoral and deserves whatever she gets. Then if she reports them, she is stoned to death for disgracing her family and her attackers are usually never punished! These men came to our country and still refused to acknowlege women here have a right to protection! So under that thinking, if a woman goes into do laundry and one of them are down there, are they going to think it is okay to do this again? Now me and every other woman here is going to have to question that if the man is of Arab decent and I hate that! Once again, that is if we do not know the man and whether or not he is muslim and where he was born.

I have been talking with neighbors for a while about starting neighborhood watch group and was hoping to wait until late fall when people are done with vacations and have more time. Well, time has run out and we need it now! However, I know what I will be hearing and wish to be able to respond to those who would judge all Muslims unfairly…Nobody should be judged based soley on their religion! Yes, those of us living here will have to be more decerning in trusting our neighbors and especially those of Arab decent but that is unfortunetly because of the situation and the fact that those involved may live here until tried and convicted if they make bail. When the hate starts to fly, I really would like to be able to answer with the truth about what most muslims believe who live here in our country and who may even be citizens! If I can get this organized, I have even thought if I here too much of this, maybe I can contact a muslim religious leader to discuss the differance between the faith of these men and their faith?

I honestly am shocked at the moment and filled with conflicting emotions myself! I moved here to escape the violance of California and with the economy the last few weeks we are have a violent crime wave here in the Springs…I have never heard this much violence occure here in the whole five yrs I have lived in CO. Every day it is another shooting, robbery, or murder, etc…

Any information of the faith, or anyone you can refer me to, I would appreciate it….Thanks…Cat

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Derek Hill August 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Hello Cat,

This is actually Derek. Im glad you come to this site for guidance in your walk with the Lord. Let me first off say that Im really sorry you are going through such a scary time. I am not very educated on the Muslim faith, but I will answer you the best that I can. I would approach your renters and demand your money back because you clearly can’t trust them and that is not a safe thing at all. If you can break your new lease with no penalty, which is what should happen because your renters have acted so unprofessional regarding this, I would find another place to relocate that looks safe. If they are unwilling, when you get your neighborhood watch together, I would take all of them at the same time to talk with your renters about hiring security to patrol your complex 24 hours a day. I understand how hard it must be to constantly wonder if every Arab person you find is ruthless, but I would suggest going to do laundry in groups of 3 women at least. Then you have support. I wish I could give you more solid advice on their faith and what to say, but I need to learn that myself. I hope this has helped you Cat. God bless you!

In His Name Always,
Derek

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Cat August 18, 2012 at 12:34 am

Derek…Thanks for getting back with me…It was late that night and I didn’t realize it was you running this posting topic. We have talked briefly in other postings. I unfortunetely can’t afford the move at the moment so I am stuck here. This is actually a very nice complex/community usually…petty crime from kids, or non-residents has been the only issues in the 2 yrs I have lived here until now. I did talk with management and they felt since they had evicted the individuals, they didn’t need to inform the community. I pointed out that since it tolk nine days for them to vacate, that was a period of increased risk for the female population and we should have been notified! We didn’t need details prior to an arrest but a warning to increase awareness of safety issues would have been nice! They seem to feel that any attempt to form a citizens watch will fail due to lack of participation but will support it if I do the work, so I am going to try my hand. People do not realize that neighborhood watch is more than just keeping an eye out for your neighbor…It is a method of staying up to date with any criminal activity in your area and police will usually provide information on how to increase personnal and property safety…lectures on laws, self defense seminars, etc…I already have a co-worker who would be willing to teach one night self defense class if I can get this going.

As for the range of peoples opinions, I have already read very hostile postings belaming all of that faith, to a young girl arguing furiously that the victim must be lying because muslims don’t do things like that! I was surprised about the cruel things said about the victim by americans…most about her being a stupid young girl who must be lying because nobody would go into a strange neighbors apartment to talk, etc…It is sad because everyone assumes she is a young girl…management wouldn’t confirm her identity as is appropriate but I saw one news paper article which stated this was an elderly women. If that were the case, her mind was probably thinking her neighbor was being polite and offering her the lemonade as a thank you for helping prevent a fight. Like I said this is a safe complex where even I usually would not fear my neighbors, so an elderly womans mind is not going to be thinking these young mens minds would be going in that direction. She is needing several surgeries to fix the damage they did internally…I think they only left her because they didn’t think she was going to live to contact the police…It was brutal! She is going to be moved and I get the feeling they are worried about retaliation. Thats just the feeling I got when I asked management to give her my number so I could help if she needed something.

As for the muslim faith…I have discovered that I am wrong about it not preaching cruelty to women! Apparently those teachings are chosen to be ignored by the muslim communtity in this country. This is great news for us but it is also where many women get into trouble when dealing with muslims born in other countries. The prophet Muhammad didn’t think of women as anything else than sexual toys and property! I found a book, Unveiling Islam, by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner. I would highly recommend it to anyone who wishes to know more about the Muslim/Islamic faith. They are two brothers whose father was Sunni Muslim and mother was Swedish. They were raised in the mosque but after their mother divorced their father in Sweden, they found Christ and converted as adults. One is a professor of Theology for a Baptist seminary and the other is a theology professor and minister. They wrote this book after 9/11 in order to explain the true muslim faith to Americans…they really get into how the faith influences the Arab culture and why for most Arabs the faith can’t be separated from the culture. The other thing they really get into is how the culture/faith treat women…to the point that they very strongly warn American women not to marry Arab men of the muslim faith (who are citizens of Arab countries) and explain all the deception involved in such relationships in which the woman is kept in the dark about until it is too late. Like the fact that she is considered an instantly muslim, a citizen of that country, and upon marriage gives up all rights to her children if her ex should be able to get her there prior to a divorce, or kidnap the kids to his homeland after. They go into what happens to a rape victim…execution for dishonoring her family and the lack of any punishment for the attacker. They also go into how upon becomming Christian, what happens to the former muslim…being disowned, shunned, and possibly killed. They back all this up with scripture from the bible and the koran!

It is an education to read and really gets down to the root of the Muslim faith, as well as how to evangalize to a Muslim in a way that they may here…They point out what misteaks Christians make which turn off the Muslim instantly and forever close the door to reaching them! Accourding to them, one must follow the Muslim culture to the tee because once you offend them you don’t get a second chance!

I the mean time, if anyone else has questions about that faith, ask me and I will look it up!

Thanks and God Bless…Cat

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Trisha September 21, 2012 at 12:50 am

I have forgiven a friend of mine for hurting me. but i choose not to be with her anymore. some of my other friends think this is not forgiveness. i feel restoration of friendship and trust is healed timely. what do you think?

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Derek Hill September 21, 2012 at 3:54 pm

Hello Trisha,

Sometimes friendships do end, even when you forgive someone. Look at divorce, for example. When two people get divorced, they usually don’t remain friends. However, as believers we are called to forgive. We must always forgive. I think it depends on your situation. If you don’t trust someone anymore, you can still forgive them. Forgiveness has nothing to do with being friends. It has everything to do with letting go of the hurt they have put on you and giving it to Jesus. God bless.

In His Name Always,
Derek

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Mr A Cotton November 18, 2012 at 11:43 am

Hi Derek. I am not very good at interpreting the bible evan simple one`s like this. Did Jesus give the power to forgive sins to the apostles,if Jesus did, then surely this would have been passed down to Pastors ect… Who was the head of the apostles,from what i have read there was no leader. The Catholic Church said it was St Peter,but evan St Peter did not confirm this,and St Paul would have certainly mentioned it if he was. Even Jesus said “But Jesus called them unto him,and said,ye knew that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
But it shall not be so among you,but whosoever will be great among you,let him be your Minister”. To me Jesus is confirming that there is no leader. What do think Derek?

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Derek Hill November 18, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Hello Mr. A Cotton. Thank you for your questions. Jesus said, “All authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.” (Matt 28:18) This means that Jesus is in control. Jesus was the leader of the disciples before His death. His purpose was to train them into Christians that would, “Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” (Matt 28:19) Although some may say that Peter was the leader because he would often say or do what he thought was right based on the leading of the Holy Spirit, such as, the sermon at the day of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2, I don’t recall Jesus appointing any one disciple to be the leader or any of the apostles (Paul, Timothy or Barnabas). Jesus has and always will be the leader and He is the one we follow. He, after all, is the Word and all scripture is “God breathed” (2 Tim 3:16) Men like Paul and Peter did amazing things for the kingdom, but they were things all led by the Holy Spirit in them. The Holy Trinity of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are what makes up the leadership of all Christians. As far as forgiveness of sins, all Christians have the power to forgive one another, but the actual sin, itself, is cleansed from us by Christ’s blood shed at Calvary. His blood is what covers our sin. So, it is our duty to forgive all who sin against us, because Christ was willing to put His life on the line so that all would come to know Him personally. We forgive one another while Christ cleanses our soul of sin. Also, it is important to note that Christ will forgive us according to how we forgive others. If you refuse to forgive then Christ also will refuse to forgive you and you will not be cleansed from your sin and you will miss out on eternal paradise with Christ in heaven if you stay unforgiving. Thank you so much for your questions! God bless you and your loved ones!

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Mr A Cotton November 19, 2012 at 3:05 pm

Thanks Derek the answer i found was in Mathew 20: 25-26 In this passage Jesus quite clearly says at the end of the passage.
“But it shall not be so among you:but whosoever will be great among you,let him be your Minister. Has we know nobody was picked to be leader.
Yes about sinning you hit the nail on the head when you said “God breathed” I live alone 63yrs old 64yrs old 31 Dec,and I have been bad with my nerves nearly all my life. I am a worrier. If i I think right back to the past certain people just did not treat me right. I had nothing against them,until a certain man he was one of them,did not treat me right. I called him names,and i can`t remember what else. I really disliked liked him for the way he treat me. This was in a period when i was 18yrs old to 29yrs old it was work related.It was about 8yrs ago and i was at my eldest brother`s funeral,and he was there.I did curse him for being there,and at the Mass that followed he was there has well. Sitting here now i don`t hate him,but he was my boss at work,and he was on my case quite a few times, work related. Quite a lot of people also did not like him very much. I did nothing to him at all. I put my head down and worked,and there was no complaints from my foreman,until there was a bonus review(more money for working hard)he did not give me a rise,and i told my foreman he said take it up with him. I did,but he did not give me a straight answer,and i told him i have worked hard,and i pointed out others that did not. He lost his temper a bit,and said do you want to work here. I just shut my mouth,and walked away. From that day till i left when i was 29yrs old i never got a bonus rise. Evan somebody left that got on to him about him not treating me right,and he said do want to leave too. I did by the back door.Has you can see this has all flooded back,and i am left with the problem to forgive him for what he did to me. This has never bothered me till now that you mentioned forgive each other. This answer has to come from my heart,so to be quite honest i can`t forgive him fully. This has left me with a big problem can i forgive him? Dereck

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Derek Hill November 19, 2012 at 7:08 pm

Hello again Mr. A Cotton. The verse you mentioned from Matthew 20:25-26 is Jesus’ rebuttal against the “rulers of the gentiles” (Matt 20:25) The rulers of the Gentiles exercised their authority over the people, meaning, the rulers took joy in telling people what to do and punishing those who were disobedient to their standards. Jesus was saying that if you want to truly be great, you must make yourself the lowest, a servant. Serve others with a genuine love for them. That is why no one was designated the leader of the disciples. They were all called to be servants, not leaders. I am so sorry to hear about how hard it was working with your boss. One thing to consider is that the reason your boss was the way he was is completely because of the effects of Satan in his life. Satan is ultimately to blame. I can say from my own personal experience that over a period of time I was able to forgive a drunk driver for killing 3 of my friends(in article above). Sure, I was mad for a long time, but the love of Christ that flows through you and I transcends the anger. If you never forgive your boss, you will hold your anger forever and that will only hurt you. Give your worries to God and forgive this person and you will be relieved of having to deal with holding on to an anger that is not helping you. Forgiveness is possible when you think of how messed up we all are and Christ still forgives us. Think about all of the sins that have been committed since the first one in the garden of Eden until now. There have been trillions of sins that have taken place and Christ is willing to forgive all of them. I was able to forgive that drunk driver because I realized how filthy I am and Christ loves me anyway. I am praying for you. Cast your burden on the Lord and He will help you. God bless you!

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Mr A Cotton November 20, 2012 at 9:45 am

This upset me that much i broke down,and i tried to think about this very hard problem. It has to come from the heart,and the next day i thought about it. I said to myself i could just write it down that i forgive him,but i would be committing the unforgivable sin telling lies to God when he knows the truth in my heart. I am confused i don`t get angry at all about him, has i said i searched in my past,and only he came up. This triggered off what he done to me. The point is i want to forgive him really from my heart,but i can`t. I am not angry,and i never think about him at all. It was only when this cropped up i thought of him.I could not wait to get on the computer to see what your reply was(Nerves) I also thought about God forgiven me.The sinner i am. You said at the end cast your burden on the Lord,and he will help you. I am that confused now. I thought about that before i came on the computer,and i said God please help me. Sorry i am breaking down.

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Mr A Cotton November 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

I am sorry for breaking down. I have composed myself now. Will God help me with this problem. You said at the end Cast your burden on the Lord and He will help you. I am unsure now to forgive him or not,
Will God help me with this problem?
I don`t hate him,and i am not angry with him,otherwise it would tear me apart each day,but it dosn`t. I do really want to forgive him,but i can`t undo what he did. Thats the problem Derek

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Derek Hill November 20, 2012 at 3:44 pm

Hello Mr A Cotton. Let me start by saying that it is completely great that you want to forgive him. If you truly want to forgive him, then you already have the right heart. And you are right, you can’t undo what your boss has done. This is why he needs forgiveness even more, no matter how hard it may be. Forgiveness is a command from the Lord and even if your heart may not be fully in it right now, you will still be ok in the eyes of God if you do forgive because you will be following His word with obedience. I have a feeling that you are going to have to forgive your boss over and over again for the things he has done. That is what I did with the woman who drove drunk and killed my 3 friends. I had to choose to forgive her even when my heart wasn’t in it because that is what God calls us to do. I forgave her on a daily basis. I know it can be so hard to forgive, but I encourage you to forgive in obedience everyday as long as it takes. If you aren’t mad or angry with your boss, then pray to God and tell Him how you feel towards your boss and ask God to give you the courage to forgive this person. The truth be told, your boss probably never even thinks about you and you are letting him bother you so much that it is wreaking havoc in your life right now. I am praying for you sir! Give this to God and let Him carry your burden. Forgiveness is a choice sir and I believe in you. God bless you!

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Dereck November 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Hey Mr. Cotton,

I hope this message finds you well.

I think the advice that Derek gives you is good. I think the way he goes about it would help you, because as Derek tells you, that person more than likely is not even thinking about you. So i think, you should concentrate on God and not your sin. I know that is hard.

I am going through something similar, but, it was a sin that I committed against someone else. It grieves me everyday, but, I pray for them everday and I pray for Gods forgiveness everday.

The foregiveness is where I think you should focus and not so much on the sin.

Peace and Love

Dereck

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Mr A Cotton November 21, 2012 at 7:47 am

I thank the two of you for your words of comfort. I was thinking about you last night Derek when you said your friends were killed,and i understood about this daily basis. You hit the nail on the head when you said your heart wasn`t in it.
To you Dereck yours is the other way round,it`s still hard either way. When Jesus said it would not be easy boy was he right.
The hard point is i can forgive him,but not in my heart. If it was there in my heart i could forgive him easily. I am beginning or the Holy Spirit his making me feel a little glimpse better,and you are right Dereck i am concentrating on the forgiveness side of it,because you are quite right if you think of the other way it would make me worse. Thanks again for kind words of comfort.

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Derek Hill November 21, 2012 at 3:18 pm

Amen brother. Pray for God to soften your heart towards your boss. You may find that after daily forgiving him that you will feel it in your heart. Im praying for you brother. God bless you and have a Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow!

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Mr A Cotton November 22, 2012 at 5:06 pm

You encouraged me because i thought what happened to you,and to quite honest you must be getting a lot of help from God. I hate to say this but what happened to you comes no where near to my problem.
You are doing Gods work,and i am very sure that God knows this,and he will make your pain go away. I thought about your problem last night,and i just could not come up with anything. I know one thing for certain from my heart the Holy Spirit will stop this. Foot Note- in England we do not have a thanksgiving Day Enjoy Your Derek.

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Derek Hill November 22, 2012 at 8:38 pm

You hit the nail on the head! The Holy Spirit will help you get through this! The bible says that when we pray and don’t know what to say, that the Holy Spirit lets out groans for us to the Father. I apologize because I didn’t know you were from England (which is awesome!). God knows your heart Mr. A Cotton and if you give your heart to God, He can soften it to even the cruelest person on earth. God Bless you!! I am still praying for you.

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Mr A Cotton November 23, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Yes thats what i believe the Holy Spirit plays a big part with me,and yet He was the One nearly all my life i never new Him.
The Holy Spirit yet is the least known. Now i know the Holy Spirit,and has you say groans out to the Father and he leads you to what you are looking for. He lead me to this site a year ago,and i just knew in my heart He was right. I am an X Catholic,but i found out all about the Catholic Church. No need to apologise,because i was on a site,and i thought he was from America,but he was from Australia,and that was very unusual.It`s amazing when you find out where people are from. I am afraid Religion in England,and Europe are in a steep decline. It`s getting a little bit better thanks to you Derek. I know that the Holy Spirit sorts your mess out,and gives you the strength to go on evan in the very hard times,but you do not know this. Has Jesus described Him He is like the Wind. Thanks again Derek for your help.

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Mr A Cotton December 17, 2012 at 12:24 pm

Hi Derek. Did the post i wrote about using the two taps. Did you understand it. I am still feeling the effects of that confrontation in the bathroom. I am mentally worn out.
I read about St Paul,and i must have read it about a 4 or 5 times. You have to be like a lawyer to figure it out. I read it very slowly,and after each time he said something i asked myself is that me.
In short Derek i was like St Paul,but it took me quite a while to figure it out. I don`t mean to be funny by this,but it was like the Marx brothers with that legal paper that Groucho went through.It is 4 days now and i haven`t committed that sin. I really feel good about you Derek,and that proves beyond doubt that i don`t want to do it,and i am forgiven. This to me is, i think you are an instrument of God. That you helped me through a very hard time. God Bless you Derek

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Derek Hill December 17, 2012 at 3:03 pm

Hello Mr. Cotton. I didn’t understand what you wrote about the two taps at first, but when reading it again, I understood. I’m not sure if that is quite the right approach, because if you would have grabbed the right handle then you would have thought you were doomed. I reassure you that even if you grabbed the right handle, you still would be forgiven when you asked for it. The only way you can ever doom yourself is by giving credit to Satan, when God has given you blessings. (blasphemy of the Spirit) If you give Satan the credit for your blessings (or anything good that God provides) instead of God, then you will not be forgiven. I know you haven’t committed that sin Mr. Cotton, because you were so distraught over your sin. I praise God that you asked for forgiveness! Please remember, though, Satan will creep in on you again and tempt you. That is when you need to remember the scriptures you have learned, so you can say them out loud and drown out Satan. If you do fall into sin again (which we all do), don’t fret about it. Keep asking God for forgiveness and strength to withstand the Devil’s temptations. God will never leave nor forsake you Mr. Cotton. He is always there to forgive. God bless you sir. You have been a blessing to me.

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Mr A Cotton December 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Thanks again Derek for your words of wisdom. This is what makes it worse, i live by myself,and i have nobody to turn to.I will be 64yrs old on the 31st Dec I am bad with my nerves which i take medication for. I have to do everything myself. I have just came out of hospital with a lump on the side of my cheek.The consultant said it was a tumour,and just a couple of days ago he drew some fluid from the lump,without him knowing he has made it worse. I am sitting here with the lump the size of a golf ball.
The reason i am telling you this that,s why i find it very difficult to understand this issue. Derek you are a learned man in this field,and being an X Catholic we not educated very well in this topic.
I am glad you you put me right about the handles. Satan he was in the bathroom with me. I know Satan well from a Catholic Priest who helped me just like you are doing,and i pestered the living daylights out of him. Just what i am doing to you,because you are educated in this field. I want to be like you. Again you have made me feel at ease,and God Bless you for that Derek.

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Derek Hill December 17, 2012 at 11:16 pm

I promise you that I never feel pestered by you Mr. Cotton. Believers are supposed to stand together and I will always encourage you anyway that I can. I am sorry to hear about your tumor and I will be in prayer for you. I really want to keep encouraging you to be in the Word and prayer. There is power in both. God speaks to us when we read the Bible and when we pray to Him. Blessings on you brother.

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Mr A Cotton December 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm

I thank you for feeling that way Derek.
A Catholic priest was helping me with the same issue from when i was about 18yrs old. Some priests where called Rogue priests,because for example- If you got divorced,and you were not the wrong doer,he would marry you although it was wrong by the Catholic Church. He said you are doing nothing wrong,it`s a habit,and you are confessing the sin. I started to argue(In a nice way) I said i am abusing the confessional box,and i think i said God will not forgive me. He lost his temper(in a nice way) he said you want to learn to forgive your self. Even when i went out with the lads,and got drunk it troubled me. I was evan knocking him up at 2o`clock in the morning. I did this quite a few times,but he never turned me away. He would sit there in his pyjamas until he made sure that my mind was clear. An ordinary priest if you said that in the confessional box he would say “You are on the road to Hell” with a real fire and brimstone voice,and this terrified me. The priest evan laid his hands on me,because you are suffering from the Dark Night of the Soul. He said that`s when God takes all your feelings away. I could say that priest his Heaven bound. Just keep doing what you where chosen for, a Tool from God Derek.

Derek Hill December 18, 2012 at 3:45 pm

The priest that stayed up with you in his pajamas is a perfect example of how God calls us to serve others. All of us are called to serve. I’m not sure if you have mentioned this, but are you serving anywhere? There is no position unworthy of serving, even if you a greeter at church or a caretaker of the church. All duties of service are important and if you aren’t at the moment, give it a try and see what God does in your life. You will reap an abundance of joy when serving the kingdom. I’m still praying for your tumor Mr. Cotton. God bless you.

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Mr A Cotton December 19, 2012 at 11:48 am

Jack asked me that, and he apologised because he did not no i was more or less mentally housebound. I just can`t get out the front door. I did not keep an appointment with the consultant because of this,and he said we will help you, don`t worry I understand. My GP said i might give you an extra Valium to calm you down. My Son just lives across the road,because we swapped houses,and they were looking for a bigger house. My Daughter-in-Law gets my shopping in has well has her Mother`s.
I used to do what you said ages ago. I could not go to Communion i just panicked and got in the porch. The priest said when i do this,you come straight to the alter,and you will get communion first. I used to go round with the plate,and i cut the grass all the way round the church.
That`s all changed because of this Anti-Pope issue,but it wasn`t because of that. It was the Dogma they taught you. Then about a year ago God opened my eyes just like the blind man in the temple. I could see everything clear,and i could not believe what was coming out of my mouth. Then God led me to this sight,and i know in my heart,and soul, that this was what i was looking for. Also a lot of profound things have happen to me on this site. Sorry for blabbering on. It`s been just over a year since i was lead here. I just know there is something special about this site. It`s definitely not like the others. May God Bless you for your concern Derek.

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Derek Hill December 19, 2012 at 3:43 pm

I apologize Mr. Cotton. I didn’t realize you were confined to your house all of the time. If you aren’t able to make it to church, there is a great website called http://www.desiringgod.org that has lots of sermons from a well known author and preacher named, John Piper. I believe that he posts the sermon he preaches each week. Also, you can still take communion in your house too. All you need is some bread and juice. Then you can take communion there just like in church. I am so glad you found this site too Mr. Cotton. I always enjoy interacting with the wonderful people who comment on the articles here, including you sir. God bless you!

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Mr A Cotton December 20, 2012 at 9:50 am

No need to apologise Derek. The same has Jack,you did not know what my situation was. Do all of you come from the same state,or are you all from different states.
About the sin i am plagued with it has been a week now since i have not done it. Last night was the worst i had to come off the computer so i would not do it . I cried out to the Holy Spirit when i went in the bathroom. I seemed to get the reply to come off the computer,because i knew i would have done it. So i went downstairs,and sat there,plus the lump i have was swollen up,and i was in pain that was just keep coming and going. So that makes it a full week that i have not done it. The Devil was not going to take that away from me. I took screen shots about St Paul description of his battle. No the wonder he is a Saint. I have just been on the phone to the hospital,and i did not get through. That was a good idea about that site,because i was trying to find a lay person here,but no luck. Anyway thanks again for your help. You do not know how much i appreciate it. You will have to excuse me for moaning all the time. God Bless you Derek.

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Jack Wellman December 20, 2012 at 12:12 pm

I am from Kansas Mr. Cotton. I do not know where all the other writers are from, including Derek but we are in reality, closer than blood brothers.

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Mr A Cotton December 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm

Seeing has am not leaving this site like the others. It`s been i think about a year now since i came to this site. I thought you got together,and formed the website. So you are nearly in the middle of America. I have thought a few times how vast your country is. I think just Florida might be bigger than England.
I live in the NE of England in a town called Sunderland. Washington’s ancestral home is in Sunderland. I think Jimmy Carter or Clinton visited quite some time ago. Thats amazing not knowing where all the other writers are from,and you are all on this site. Well i will have to swat up on Kansas. I think it has got a bit of a reputation. Thanks a lot Jack for Sharing.

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Michelle December 28, 2012 at 10:17 am

Hi derek could u pleez help me out im so hurt because my boyfriend use me and took advantage of me derek i have a good heart i try to help everyone but is that true wat goes around comes around i did so much for my ex im just hutrin right i have been praying it seem like i can’t get over it wat shall i do ii

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Derek Hill December 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Hello Michelle. It sounds like you did everything you could and you still got hurt by your ex. You will learn to move on as long as you stay strong in the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 says, “Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.” I encourage you to live out this verse to the best of your ability and see what God does in your life. Personally, I just finished a painful storm in my life. I made it through because God carried me through it. Rely on your Heavenly Father and He will carry you too. I also encourage you to read your Bible everyday, pray everyday and sing worship to God everyday. This will keep you connected to Him Michelle. God bless you! I will be praying for you.

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Chase January 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm

Hello I stumbled on to your site looking for answers and I was hoping you could give me some insights. I was reading in Deuteronomy 29:20 where God says if anyone goes and follows after other gods that God will NEVER be willing to forgive them, I’ve seen God say this several times throughout the old testament. But again and again I see in scripture where God will and does forgive Israel for serving other Gods like Hosea, Jeremiah, judges, etc so I’m not understanding this passage. Unless he means if they persist in doing so but if they stopped and repented he’d forgive them, but NEVER doesn’t exactly sound like a conditional statement based on their repentance.

Any Help would be greatly appreciated, I ask because I know someone who is a Christian and has committed spiritual adultery and I know God is unchanging so why does he say NEVER WILLING TO FORGIVE is there hope for this person? I notice several times God pleas with his people to come back and he will forgive them, this person has come back but is struggling with different scriptures. And is this verse still applicable today for Christians, because I know acts 13:39 says Christ justify’s us from everything the law of Moses could not and were under a new covenant?

Any Help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you so much
Chase

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Jack Wellman January 20, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Hello Chase. Although I am not the author of this article let me see if I can help you sir. Please keep in mind that ALL of the Bible is written FOR us but not all of the Bible is written TO us. In other words, in Dueteronomy chapter 29:2-3, in verse here’s the first clue as to WHO this is written to, “Moses summoned all the Israelites and said to them: YOUR eyes have seen all that the Lord did in Egypt to Pharaoh, to all his officials and to all his land. With YOUR own eyes you saw those great trials, those signs and great wonders.” (my emphasis in all caps).

So the first point is that this chapter is written to Israel for example, “TO the Reubenites, the Gadites and the half-tribe of Manasseh. Carefully follow the terms of this covenant (verses 8-9)” so this is written TO the tribes of Israel and is a particular covenant (vs 9) but today we are under a new, and better covenant says Paul.

The laws mentioned in Deuteronomy are not binding on Christians today, otherwise, try reading Deuteronomy and see if they are even possible for no one is saved by the Law. This person who committed “spiritual adultery” I would ask, “Where does this ‘spiritual adultery’ come from in the Bible? It is not in the Old or New Testament. You are either a believer or not. There are only saints and “aint’s.”

The final clue to them quoting Deuteronomy shows us that (Duet 29:21) “The Lord will single them [who is them?] out from all the tribes of Israel [Israel, not Christians] for disaster, according to all the curses of the covenant written in this Book of the Law [which is what the Book of Deuteronomy is called]. We are not under the old covenant or the Law but under a new and better covenant and not even able to be saved by the Law (thankfully because none of us could ever hope to keep it!).

Does this help my friend?

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deep April 2, 2013 at 4:43 am

i sinned even after getting baptized ,does god ever forgive me how to surrender to god completely

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Robert April 2, 2013 at 10:48 am

Hi Deep,
Although I am not the author of this article, I would like to respond to your comment. The Bible tells us that God is a God of forgiveness. Jesus paid the price for our sins, so we do not have to (we couldn’t have done it anyway). We read in the book of First John, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1:9 ESV). Deep, Christians fail, and fall, sometimes. What matters is how we respond to those failures. Do we throw up our hands in defeat, turn away from God, and live as we please? Or do we, confess our failures and sins, turn to God in humble reliance, and continue to live for Him the best we can? This verse (I John 1:9) promises us that God will forgive us if we turn to Him. I hope this helps and I will be praying for you.
Yours in Christ,
Robert

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deep April 2, 2013 at 11:57 pm

Hi Robert
Thank you for the reply ,remember me and my family in your prayers.

Yours sister in Christ,
Deep

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Derek Hill April 2, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Hello Deep

I agree with Robert and the verse he gave you is a great one to memorize and keep on your heart. The Devil wants you to feel defeated. He wants you to think that your a hopeless cause, but he is wrong. You are part of the bride of Christ! Now that means something BIG! Christ loved you enough to pay for your sins (past, present and future sins) by dying on the cross for you. The war is already won and Satan is already defeated! So, keep confessing your sins to God and He will always forgive you. Surrendering to God completely simply means that you give him everything you’ve got. Tell Him your worries and burdens. Ask God to help you in your weaknesses. He will give you strength to endure. I for one know you are on the right track because your question shows your heart, and I see a heart that is seeking. You will always find answers when you seek them from God. I hope this helps you Deep, and thank you Robert for a great scripture to remember! God bless you, Deep!

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deep April 3, 2013 at 12:21 am

Hi Derek
Thank you for the reply and for comforting message.God has spoken to me through psalm 86:5 while i was reading bible,please remember me ,my husband and my family in prayer where my parents have not yet received salvation even though born in a christian family.

Yours sister in Christ,
Deep.

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Derek Hill April 3, 2013 at 3:08 pm

Prayers are on the way Deep. Don’t give up hope on them. God is in the miracle business. I know personally from my own story. Psalm 86:5 is a very comforting verse. Thank you for sharing it. God bless you!

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todd April 7, 2013 at 7:19 pm

Much is expected of God, too little attention is paid to what God expects of us. He expects what seems like a rediculous feat to many people, preachers, politicians, and world leaders.
By his example on the cross he shows how to accept the
unacceptable and forgive the unforgivable. In Matthew 6:14-15 he says unless we forgive, we will not be forgiven. Showing how hard it is to forgive he advised 7×70. Once something becomes unforgivable in your mind, you have condemned yourself to hell on earth.

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Derek Hill April 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm

Amen Todd. Forgiveness is a must in a Christian’s walk with the Lord. How can we expect to be forgiven when we can’t forgive others. Excellent scripture reference! God bless!

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Mr A Cotton April 8, 2013 at 1:48 pm

This has just come like a bolt out of the Blue.
I have always wanted to know what this 7×70 means, and more less I have been going to Google it,but I was lazy.
I know Todd that it`s from God. God has evan recognized that I am lazy,and He is using you to give me the answer.

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todd April 7, 2013 at 7:52 pm

Forgiveness seems so hard i hear few sermons on the importance of forgiveness in church and almost no examples in the public media. yet we see the angry violence everywhere in the media, school murders, war, depression by those whose chose to see events in their lives as unforgivable living in their own hell and Jesus says there is no grace for them.

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Derek Hill April 7, 2013 at 8:00 pm

It is sad Todd. Many children are not raised with the truth of the Gospel of Jesus, so when chaos hits them they don’t know what to do. That is why so many turn to drugs, gangs, sex, violence and all other kinds of things. They are trying to fill a hole in their heart that only God can fill. Forgiveness is part of it, but knowing Jesus as Lord and Savior is the other part. Most of the violence today is from people who refuse Jesus and refuse to forgive. It is a combination equaling disaster and chaos, which is exactly what the devil wants. We all need to stand for Jesus and forgive everyone that does us wrong. God bless you and thank you for your thoughts. I can see that they come from a very compassionate heart!

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todd April 7, 2013 at 8:10 pm

i realize believing in God is important! however athiests, muslums, and agnostics could even see the advantage of getting rid of the rage they carry around if taught what comfort they get from forgiveness rather than vengence. Then even they might be able to see the value of Jesus words till they could find God. Dr. Freud said depression is anger turned in on self, lack of grace.

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Derek Hill April 7, 2013 at 8:17 pm

I wasn’t disagreeing with you Todd. I was just adding to what you said, and again you are correct. If all belief groups could see the value of forgiveness, they could definitely be lead to God. Jesus is the answer and the only answer. Until anyone really accepts and follows Christ, they are doomed for eternity. It is tragic to think of how many people will never see heaven. That is why we all should do our best everyday to live for Jesus! God bless you and thank you again for your thoughts. They are appreciated.

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todd April 8, 2013 at 6:17 pm

Matthew 9;13 says “i have not come to call the righteous, but the sinners to repentance. Matthew13:13. Many people of “God” hear not what happens when you forgive and forget instead of forgiving and remembering till you have little pain. Most of the time 70x? In my opinion most ministers do not recognize Gods importance of forgiveness as mentioned in Matthew 6:14-15 and how healing that could be to their angry, depressed and greiving flock. Most ministers preach love of Jesus but do not heed or hear his message of requiring us to forgive the unforgivable or we will not be forgiven by God.

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Derek Hill April 8, 2013 at 7:21 pm

Hello again! Any minister who does not recognize the need for forgiveness is a false prophet preaching not for God. Forgiveness is absolutely essential in our walk with the Lord. I must say also that all Christians are held accountable to read the Bible on their own time. If they did, they would know that they have an obligation to talk with their pastors and tell them what they are doing is wrong. If a pastor sees the error of their ways then praise the Lord! I think every body of believers needs to constantly uplift their pastors in prayer before God. The role of a pastor can be taxing and prayer is a perfect way to lift them up to Almighty God. God bless you and thank you as always for your thoughts. I do appreciate them! :)

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Mr A Cotton April 9, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Quite a while ago Derek we discussed about forgiveness about a certain person what he done to me. At that time I was in my twenties,and you know when you get older it fades.
What i want to know is I hadn`t a thought in my head until I received the email about this topic. I am 64 yrs old,and the topic has to be brought up to trigger this forgiveness issue off.
The point I am trying to make is I no longer think about them at all,and it is also difficult to remember precisely what they did to me. In general nearly everybody has a hate thing.
The classic one is Everybody hates Jew`s.
I have got nothing against the Jews at all,but in general the same could be said of China,North Korea,Iran,and Russia. It`s just because they have “Big Nuclear Rockets”
It was quite some time ago when JFK made a speech that America will not start a war,it does not want a war. The American people are sick of war,and that`s the way it`s going to remain.
How wrong JFK could be to say that(I must make plain it wasn`t JFK`s fault,because he was assassinated) that there were wars after that speech.
So in my situation in your opinion have I forgiven these people. The big issue is, it`s easy for me to say I have forgiven them,but it`s another thing to say I mean it which is very hard,and only God knows for sure,because he can see into your heart.
Jesus said it which is easy to do(Sorry i forgot what He said)
This torments me very much,so I must have forgiven them to come hear,and say so. I know one thing Satan knows when to come which he proved by tempting Jesus,and Satan chose the very subject. Not the Scourging,not carrying the Cross,and not evan the Crucifixion,but Carrying the worlds Sins which God knew,and sent an angel down to help.I find this one very,very difficult. What “PAIN” Jesus went through for us Derek.

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Derek Hill April 9, 2013 at 3:31 pm

It is great to hear from you again Mr. Cotton. Let me start at the end of what you said. I completely agree with you. The pain and suffering of Jesus’ scourging, mockery and crucifixion was absolutely horrific and brutal. Our Savior went through it all for us and I am so thankful! For the rest I ‘m gonna see if I can answer your question on forgiveness. You see, forgiveness is a choice you make with your mind. You choose to “let go” and “let God” take the burden from you. Even though you may not be around this person, you can still forgive them in your heart. I think you honestly have forgiven them if you have forgotten about what they did to you. If you hadn’t forgotten, you may still be filled with rage and anger towards them. Forgiveness isn’t a one time thing always. Sometimes you may need to keep forgiving someone even though they only sinned against you once. Every time you think about what they did, if you burn with anger against them, you must forgive them again. I have done this with my ex-wife many many times. I hope this makes sense and it is good to hear from you. God bless you!

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Mr A Cotton April 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Thanks Derek for getting to issue that has plagued me for years.
So the way you put it I have forgiven them.
I can say now I have no hatred towards these people,and I think you are quite right that God has took this burden away from me,and softened my heart,and they have just melted away.
The other thing that tells me you are right is I would be seeking revenge,and I would have certainly made it my business to harm them in anyway. I would like to give you a big thank you for telling me about “forgiveness” and putting so I could understand. Derek you have made feel really good about this issue. It was a big nut to crack,but God has made you put it so I can understand. It`s a good job God has chosen people like you Derek. I could not buy what God has said through you Derek.

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Derek Hill April 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm

Mr Cotton, thank you so much for your kind words. They really mean a lot. God is so good all of the time and I am glad that HE has used me to show His truths to you. You have blessed me today with your kindness. I am always willing to try an answer anything you have Mr. Cotton. The door is always open. God bless you!

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Mr A Cotton April 11, 2013 at 3:26 pm

I am glad God has rewarded you.
I feel like I am not on a website now,because I am getting to know you has a team.
Jack was the very first one to answer my problem.
I found it difficult to say the word “Masturbating”
This one was the hardest to get in my head that God has forgiven me. I was sitting on the couch,and I how easy it is if you trust in God that was the key to the problem.
Thanks to you Derek for again putting it a simple way,but I have to play my part,and “Trust” God. May God`s light keep shining on you Derek.

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Derek Hill April 11, 2013 at 3:55 pm

May God continue to show Himself in your life Mr. Cotton. You said it perfectly, we all must do our part and trust God! Thank you for that thought. It is always good to hear from you. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. God bless you!

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Mr A Cotton April 13, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Can I send you a private email Derek?

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Derek Hill April 13, 2013 at 5:00 pm

Sure! I will send you an email with “Derek” in the subject heading for you to open. Then go ahead and reply back. God bless!

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Joe Quatrone Jr. June 17, 2013 at 6:42 pm

Excellent!

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Derek Hill June 17, 2013 at 7:22 pm

Thank you for your kind word, Joe! Thank you for stopping by WCWTK and God bless you!

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Mikeiam September 7, 2013 at 1:23 am

I think just like Paul who was aka Saul, we are forgiven right away. we should not feel that we are going be punished when we ask for forgiveness and repent from our sins. We should not doubt God,s forgiveness for us. When we doubt God we are sinning. But we should not go around sinning either knowing that we will be forgiven cause that is when God will punish us.

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Derek Hill September 8, 2013 at 2:25 pm

Hello Mikeiam. We are only forgiven when we ask for it. And you are right, we should “not doubt God’s forgiveness for us.” He always forgives us when we truly are sorry in repentance. Bless you!

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Fred October 19, 2013 at 1:18 pm

Great subject! Excellent article! Godly analysis! I do however have one question to ask which I have not seen discussed or commented on in this article. Here it is:

I read in Luke 17:3 “Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.

Now please enlighten me on the above. As stated in the passage, does not our brother need to repent before any forgiveness is given? Does he not need to be rebuked first? And only if he repents, you forgive him?

I await Derek’s or anyone else response.

Thanks and God bless your heart.

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Derek Hill October 19, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Fred that is an excellent question! Forgiveness is a heart issue and even if your brother doesn’t repent, we still must forgive because as Jesus said, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:14-15) Forgiveness is a heart issue for the person who is wronged. Repentance is a heart issue for the person who sinned. Does that make sense? Thank you for an excellent question and God bless you!

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Jack Wellman October 19, 2013 at 4:24 pm

Fred, I think Derek did an outstanding job with his answer and it is spot on in context and conception regarding what Jesus said. Derek has such biblical wisdom that even in the seminary I am attending seems to be lacking. For him I truly thank God for Fred. Jesus’ comment in Luke 17:3 fits perfectly with the church discipline model he gave to leaders in the church and to the members of the church in Matthew 18:15-19 and if you read that you will see that Jesus is saying essentially the same thing but in a much broader context. In fact, the Matthew 18 model is one that we have had to use in our church and it really, really works and is powerfully effective and we are (sadly) going to have to do this again next week with a fellow saint who has been gossiping and hurting the church. You see? Derek is more right than perhaps he even knew but with which I am not surprised knowing this man of faith!

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Mr A Cotton January 29, 2014 at 12:12 pm

I have this dilemma God forgives your sin when you ask Him,so each time you sin he forgives you,and you mean it.
Then when you die you stand before God who judges you.
Why does he judge you when you have already received His forgiveness. He has forgiven you of the sins when you were alive.

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Jack Wellman January 29, 2014 at 9:06 pm

Anthony…we will be facing Christ at the Judgment but we have the rightouesness of Christ imputed to us (2 Cor 5:21) and so the Father sees us as having Jesus’ own rightouessness. What awaits the believer after death? We all know the answer—heaven. Heaven is a real place in which we will worship God (Revelation 5:11-13), serve God (Revelation 7:15) and reign with God (Revelation 22:5). It is a place of great pleasure, characterized by magnificent beauty, including streets of gold and buildings of pearls and emeralds and precious stones (Rev. 21:19-21). We will live, celebrate, eat and drink in heaven (Revelation 19:9; Luke 22:29, 30).

Scripture teaches with unmistakable clarity that all believers in Christ will give an account of their lives to their Lord (Romans 14:10-12). We will be judged by him according to our works, both good and bad (2 Corinthians 5:10). The result of this will be the gain or loss of eternal rewards (1 Corinthians 3:12-15; 2 Corinthians 5:9,10; Romans 14:10-12).

God’s Word treats this judgment with great sobriety. It does not portray it as a meaningless formality or a going-through-the-motions before we get on to the real business of heavenly bliss. Rather, Scripture presents it as a monumental event in which things of eternal significance are brought to light and things of eternal consequence are put into effect.

If any man builds on this foundation [the foundation of Christ] using gold, silver, costly stones, wood hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. (1 Corinthians 3:12-15)

Our works are what we have done with our resources—time, energy, talents, money, possessions. The fire of God’s holiness will reveal the quality of these works, the eternal significance of what we have done with our God-given assets. The fate of the works will be determined by their nature. If they are made of the right stuff (gold, silver, costly stones), they will withstand and be purified by the fire. But no matter how nice our works of wood and hay and straw have looked in the display case of this world, they will not withstand the incendiary gaze of God’s Son in the next.

2 Corinthians 5:10 says, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”

“Whether good or bad” in this verse is perhaps the most disturbing phrase for believers in the entire New Testament. It is so disturbing, in fact, that I’ve found any honest attempts to deal with it are met with tremendous resistance. Equally disturbing is the direct statement to Christians that not only will they receive reward from Christ for their good works, but “Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism” (Colossians 3:25). If Christ has paid the price for our sin, if we confess and receive forgiveness of our sins, then what can such verses mean?

Our sins are totally forgiven when we come to Christ, and we stand justified in him. Nevertheless, Scripture says what it does about our coming judgment. This judgment of believers by Christ is a judgment of our works, not our sins. However, the commission of sins and the omission of righteous acts we should have done, apparently replaces or prevents the laying up of precious stones on the foundation of Christ. Therefore these sins contribute directly to the believer’s “suffering loss.” Through this loss of reward the believer is considered to be receiving his “due” for his works “whether good or bad.” Hence what we do as believers, both good and bad, will one way or the other have effects for eternity.

I hope this helps answer your question.

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Mr A Cotton January 30, 2014 at 9:25 am

I think I get it when you mentioned what we did with our time,and any body who has done wrong to other`s.
So the punch line is Jesus judges our works on Earth the good works or the bad works.
I will take a screen shot of your post so I can study it more.
Example:- If I was working and I made it out to the person I was doing the work for,and I told him it was really hard work when in fact it wasn`t.
So Jesus when I come before Him knows this and that`s what He see`s this in my heart.
Is that more or less what you mean Jack.

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Jack Wellman January 30, 2014 at 10:38 am

Yes, that is what I meant. But this doesn’t mean you won’t be saved. Not a crumble of bread or a sip of water to someone in need will not go unrewarded but we are judged not for our sins…that has been taken care of already at the cross…but this judgment is to see how much responsibility we will have in the kingdom.

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Derek Hill January 30, 2014 at 7:46 pm

Hey Mr Cotton! Sorry for the late response but it looks like I don’t need to. Jack, that was perfect brother! You are a very gifted writer sir! God bless both of you!

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Mr A Cotton January 31, 2014 at 12:38 pm

Forgive me this has got me lost off.
How will I not be saved?
I have heard that there are different parts of Heaven that one is higher than another,and of course there will be a bottom place in Heaven.
I hear what you are saying Jack when you say a sip of water to someone in need. I can understand that.
I take it you mean if I am judged by God that I don`t deserve any responsibility in Heaven then I won`t be saved and I will not get into Heaven,and I will go to Hell is that what you mean.

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