How To Remain Humble In A Fallen World

by Jack Wellman on September 25, 2013 · Print Print · Email Email

Pride is a problem even for Christians.  Knowing that God resists the proud, how can we remain humble and as a child before God in a world that thrives on self-esteem and pride?

Pride, the Reason for Satan’s Fall

How did Satan fall?   It was pride and his fall indirectly caused the fall of man.  The first sin ever committed was that of pride and it was committed by Satan.  In Isaiah 14:12-14 we see why Satan fell;

“How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God.  I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” 

Notice that Satan said in his heart “I will ascend to heaven, above the stars (angels) of God. I will set MY throne on high (where God sits presently); I will sit on the mount of the assembly in the far reaches of the north (where heaven is said to be, Psalm 48:1-2)…I will make myself like the Most High.”  Really this means that He wanted to BE the Most High and sit on the throne where God is now.  We also see the pride in the many “I will” statements.  What is in the middle of all pride?  The letter “I” is in the middle of pride just as “i” is in the middle of sin. When it’s all about me or I, then it’s not about God. If we are proud or lifted up, God will resist you as He did Satan because pride robs God of glory.   Our pride, just like Satan’s, will come just before a great fall (Prov 16:18).  Our fall will be the effect of our pride.  Our pride will be the cause of our fall.

Pride, the Reason for Mankind’s Fall

In the Garden, Satan tempted Eve and He used human pride to cause her to sin.  We read of this in Genesis 3:6-7;

“So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.”  

The first thing Eve saw was that the tree was a “delight to the eyes” (desires of the eyes), that it was “good for food” (desires of the flesh), and that “the tree was to be desired to make one wise” (pride of life).  It was all about the “I” again.  Adam cannot blame Eve. Eve was deceived but Adam had no excuse because Adam was right with her when she ate of the fruit.  Immediately after, he also took it and ate of this forbidden fruit (Gen 3:6).  Adam was not off somewhere tending the Garden, he was right there with Eve. He should have stepped up and said “No!” It wasn’t the fruit that was bad, it was that they disobeyed God and their decision was based on pride. At that very moment, mankind’s fate was sealed because  they chose for themselves to do what was right in their own eyes and since then all of us have all been living with the results of the fall.  Since there was no humility, pride resulted in the fall of mankind in the Garden of Eden.  This caused God to separate Himself from mankind until the day that the veil of separation would be rent by Jesus’ own body (Matt 27:51, Heb 6:18-20).

The Proud, the Few, the Fallen

The Marines take pride in their service and rightly so but pride in the wrong sense can destroy.  God says that He is opposed or resists the proud but He gives grace to the humble (James 4:6).  The literal wording in the Greek for “opposed” or some translations say “resists” is “at war.” If we use the actual Greek wording of James 4:6 it reads “God [is at war with] the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”  The Old Testament is full of stories where God humbled the proud.  The pagan nations that sought to destroy Israel were always full of themselves but so was Israel.  Their pride always led to their fall.  Pride is at the root of all sin and is listed as number one of the seven things that the Lord detests (Prov 6:16-19).

I stated that the moon would be dark, pitch black in fact, if it were not for the sun.  The moon is beautiful only because the sun shines on it.

I stated that the moon would be dark, pitch black in fact, if it were not for the sun. The moon is beautiful only because the sun shines on it.

Staying Humble in a Pride-Filled World

It is difficult to remain humble in a world that prides itself on, well, self.  Three of our greatest enemies are me, myself, and I.  How can we kill the pride in our life? One way is to always seek to glorify God, in particular, Jesus Christ.  We even pray in Jesus’ name because the answers to our prayers are intended to glorify Christ.  When we accept credit for something and don’t give glory to God, we are literally robbing Him of what is rightly His.  Who wants to rob God? Not me!  Someone once complimented me on an article I wrote.  I asked, “Who gave me the hands to type? Who gave me the breath of life?  Who gave me a job to be able to afford the computer I work on?  Who gave me….and so on.  The point was that I cannot take glory or credit for what God has provided.  I want to be like the moon.  I want to reflect the glory from the Son.  I stated that the moon would be dark, pitch black in fact, if it were not for the sun.  The moon is beautiful only because the sun shines on it.  Similarly we are to reflect Jesus and tell others that we are not the light or not responsible for the light; but God is.

Be Humble or Be Humbled

Unless we are willing to remain humble, God cannot use us.  Unless we glorify Jesus Christ in all we do with our hands, God will not bless the work of our hands.  God is a jealous God.  Not in the human way we think of jealousy but God will not share the glory that belongs solely to Him.  When we rob God of His due glory, God will humble us.  Look at Jesus Who is the Creator and the Supreme God above all His creation, yet He willing humbled Himself to the point of death on a Cross. He bent down and washed the dirty feet of the disciples to show that the greatest will be the servant of all.  The least will be the greatest in God’s economy.  If a person wants to be first, they will surely be last.  Jesus saw the pride in the Pharisee who was praying to be seen and said that “I thank you God that I am not like other man – robbers, evil doers, adulterers” but the “tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner’” (Luke 18:11-13).  Jesus said that “this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted” (Luke 18:14).

In Luke 14:8-11 Jesus says what happens to those who try to exalt themselves;

“When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not take the place of honor, for a person more distinguished than you may have been invited. If so, the host who invited both of you will come and say to you, ‘Give this person your seat.’ Then, humiliated, you will have to take the least important place. But when you are invited, take the lowest place, so that when your host comes, he will say to you, ‘Friend, move up to a better place.’ Then you will be honored in the presence of all the other guests. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

How to Humble Yourselves

How can you remain humble in a fallen world?  Take a lesson from children. The disciples never understood about true humility until after Jesus death. They all thought the way the world thought.  They sought positions of power.  Jesus really got their attention though.  When “the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”  And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.  Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven” (Matt 18:1-4).  What is it about children that makes them so humble and keeps them in a state of humility?  They stay humble because they are teachable.  They are not in a position of power.  They stay in lowly positions.  They don’t think too highly of themselves.  They are in submission to their parents, teachers and other adults. To stay humble we must consider who we are in comparison to Who God is. The more we see the magnificence of God, just how great He is, the more we will see just how insignificant we are in comparison to Him.

Conclusion

God spoke through the prophet Isaiah and thundered out the reason we were created. It was “the people whom I formed for myself that they might declare my praise” (Isaiah 43:21). Peter warned against pride because that this was something that he battled with when he was being discipled by Jesus.  Late in his life Peter wrote “Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you” (1 Pet 5:6). This is because “all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted” (Luke 14:11).  James said to “Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up” (James 4:10).

I have learned the hard way to not rob God of any glory because He thunders out from heaven, “I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols” (Isaiah 42:8) and “My glory I will not give to another” (Isaiah 48:11b).  If you want to read about His glory, read the Book of Isaiah.  Also, when you read the history of the nation of Israel you will see time and time again about this nation’s fall when they try to win their own battles or make an alliance with another nation instead of relying on God.  Why? Because human effort never, ever glorifies God but robs Him of what He is due.  See Who God is, give Him the glory, and remain humble. If you do this, He will exalt you someday.  Maybe not in this life, but surely in the life to come.

Take a look at this related article:

How To Glorify Jesus Christ

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Michael Kampff September 29, 2013 at 4:31 pm

Pride is THE problem, absolutely, in the sense of thinking that we know better than God. Every sin has its seed in this nature of pride.

However, I wanted to ask whether the concept of pride extends to the feeling of adoration a parent has for something their child does well. Of course we thank God for our blessings, including creating us with our abilities for His glory, but is being “proud” of your child the wrong perspective? Is it dangerous in any way for a father to say he’s “proud” of his son or daughter? Do you think God is “proud” of us when we make decisions that glorify Him?

If these concepts of being “proud” are not dangerous or sinful, then I wonder whether we, as Christians should be using clearer terminology about one or the other.

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Jack Wellman September 29, 2013 at 9:48 pm

Thank you Mr. Kampff for your comment/question. I believe it is not sin to be proud other someone other than yourself. Notice what is at the center of pride: pride. “I” is at the center of pride but when it is someone else, I see no sin in this although you could certainly turn the pride in your children into bragging or boasting because this is MY child. No where in the Bible does it say that God is ever proud of us. He loves us and again, we can only boast in the cross of Christ as Paul wrote. Also notice what is in the middle of sin. It is s-I-n! Just like pr-I-de! Make sense Mr. Kampff?

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Michael Kampff September 30, 2013 at 10:22 am

Thank you Pastor Jack for your reply. Yes, makes complete sense. I do think it’s a point of confusion though (maybe just for me?) – having pride in oneself versus being proud of another.

I suppose I’d also ask whether it’s sin to be proud of yourself for.. say.. doing the right thing in a particular situation. God leads, but we each have a will too, to do as He leads or not, and it can be significant to choose to trust Him and to grow in our relationship with Him based on that choice. Isn’t that something to be proud of?

Is the key distinction that sinful pride is simply rejecting God’s lead because we think we know better. In the cases above, there’s no sense of knowing better than God, so that’s not sin? I don’t necessarily have an answer, but I feel like we should try to use clearer terminology in the common Christian vernacular to separate these ideas better.

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Jack Wellman September 30, 2013 at 10:44 am

Thank you again Mr. Kampff. I know that the Bible says that none or good and no one does good of theirselves and any good we do is attributed to God Who alone grants repentance and deserves all glory. For me to be proud of myself I believe could be a stumbling block, although I could be wrong. I can be joyful when I am striving to live obediently and resist temptation but even that is from the power of the Holy Spirit for we are all vessels fitted for destruction at best until God sends us the Holy Spirit by which we can only then produce good fruit (Gal 5) and without His aid we only produce fruits that are carnal (same chapter, Gal 5). I guess I must rely on the Bible on this subject because God is said to resist the proud but gives grace only to the humble (James 4:6) and I am not being humble when I am proud of myself. The word “resists” is sometimes rendered “opposes” which literally means “at war with” so God is actually said to be at war with the proud but sending grace only to those who are humble. I don’t know if I answered your questions but I see no where in the Bible that we are told to be proud of ourselves.

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Michael Kampff October 1, 2013 at 3:57 pm

Thanks for the follow up. I really appreciate it.

Michael Kampff October 2, 2013 at 12:11 pm

I discovered some additional perspective which helps in the context of my questions (http://frankviola.org/2013/10/02/pleasinggod/)

God is *pleased* in us when we allow Christ to live through us, but not necessarily “proud” of us. Similarly, maybe I / we should be thinking of our perspective of our children as being *pleased* in them rather than “proud” of them. I wonder whether our saying we’re “proud” of a child may actually foster their own pride, even against God – that would be terrible. What do you think Pastor Jack?

So maybe a helpful distinction is “pleased” versus “proud”. And we can keep the ideas separate for the sake of clarity and understanding. Do you think this helps? Maybe it’s just me that is hung up on this, but working through this helped me a lot, so I wanted to share.

Francis Fernandez October 3, 2013 at 1:03 am

Dear Pastor Jack,

Your article,”How to remain humble”, has been very enlightening.
And the subsequent comments, discussions,and clarifications by Michael Kampff, has cleared my own apprehensions, and misunderstandings on: ‘Pride & Sin’. Thanks to you,and Michael.

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Jack Wellman October 3, 2013 at 9:00 am

Thank you Mrs. Fernandez. I appreciate your kind remarks and I do so agree that Mr. Kampff cleared up in my mind too what I had not really actualized. I thank you and Mr. Kampff both for your input. I am still a work in progress to put it mildly! LOL

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Philippe October 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm

I’m not a christian and I don’t believe in God. And I sure agree that “pride” (most commonly called ego nowadays) can be a problem if we want to live in grace. But there is an interesting paradox to acknowledge and it’s this: Refusing to see and accept pride (or any trait) in yourself will keep perpetuating it in your experience. It’s only when you can be non-judgmental about your own “short comings” that you can transform them with the light of your being.

I came to this forum through a link that was spammed into my facebook inbox, if you wondered what I’m doing here if I’m not christian. I thought I’d leave a comment sharing my perspective. Peace.

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Jack Wellman October 7, 2013 at 8:28 pm

Hello Philippe. I am not sure why you got a spam into your inbox on Facebook. I can assure you we do not do such things and maybe it was from a friend or acquaintance. Nonetheless, I do respect what you said and there is much truth in what you wrote sir. Great insight. Being non-judgmental should be the focal point of all Christians but realize that this is not the case for many. I do commonly throw myself under the bus so to speak in my messages to the church and in most of my articles. People, whether Christian or not, do not like to associate with prideful people but I perceive you are not such a man. I appreciate your gracious response sir and would hope that you would come again my friend. You are welcome here, whether Christian or not.

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DocReits October 24, 2013 at 12:24 am

Hey Philippe,

If you are still out there I have a question about this comment you made:

“…I don’t believe in God. And I sure agree that “pride” …. can be a problem if we want to live in grace”

How would one expect to live “in grace” if there is no God, as grace is the unmerited favor bestowed upon us by God?

Why not instead live in pride (selfishness) or as Paul said in the Bible, “If the dead are not raised, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die”? IOW, if the grave is all that awaits…why not party on!

My deeper question is not, ‘can an atheist have morals’ which it sounds like you do, but ‘where do you think your morality comes from?’.

I wish you well,

DocReits

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Patricia Schneider October 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm

Hello, Pastor Jack!
As always, another terrific article with Scriptures!

Truly appreciated the dialogue between you & Michael Kampff. Then I came to your “apology” block of October 2, 2013.
Oh, Pastor Jack, forgive me, but I have to say this, YOU ARE MUCH TOO HARD ON YOURSELF, Brother!!! Yes, we are all sinners, but I don’t believe making some ‘mistakes’ are actually sins. God knows our human frailties, and DOES give us His graces when we ask Him.
Need to share something about PRIDE that happened recently. Had lost a ton of weight since last September. (ALL CREDIT GOES TO SWEET JESUS!!! I surely have no will-power of my own! LOL!) Well, I had a lot of nice clothes that no longer fit me, decided to give them to our Church Neighbors Bin.
As I was laying the clothes on our bed, checking to see for any tears or stains, etc., I started feeling really good of myself. Like, “Geez, aren’t I nice to give this away, it’s my favorite whatever.”
Also noticed I had other items no longer being used, (purses, hats, etc.) so I piled those onto our bed. Puffing up more & more with pride, Pastor.
This horrid nonsense went on for about an hour. Then I packed everything up.
It wasn’t ’til my hubby Gary & I actually dropped off the items at Church that I realized my sin of pride.
Oh, Pastor Jack, I felt just horrible. When we got home after Church Service, I went to our bedroom & cried like a big baby, asking Jesus to forgive me. Couldn’t believe I’d became so puffed up w/pride like that, Pastor!
When I’d calmed down, felt Jesus’ arms about my shoulders again. Honest! HE DID UNDERSTAND, AND FORGAVE ME!!
Always having had low self-esteem from these ‘goofy ears’ & speech-impediment, it took me a long time to understand the difference between self-confidence and pride. Like you, my dear Brother, I’m “a work in progress!” Hee-Hee!

Pastor Jack, there was NOTHING in any of your comments that was wrong!!! You must believe that!!!
Oodles of God’s wonderful blessings and graces for you, Pastor Jack, and your family!
Love, your Sis in Christ Jesus ~ Patty

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Jack Wellman October 10, 2013 at 2:33 pm

Thank you my sister in Christ Patty. Hey, you know what…we all have that same tendencies to sin and pride is our main thing we must battle. You must not be too hard on yourself because at least you were convicted of it and realized it. The non-saved world doesn’t see it at all or even realize it is sin!

As for me, I would rather suffer wrong and considered wrong even though I may be right than to try to make it worse, particularly over non-essentials to the faith. Paul was a great example and did not always defend himself because he saw the opportunity to be forgiving of others and accept blame when there was none to rightfully be blamed for and that is what took place on Calvary for our sakes! Make sense? Thanks sis…

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Patricia Schneider October 10, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Makes perfect sense, Pastor Jack! Beginning to understand where you’re coming from. That is, to be more like Jesus in every way, every day, right?
Thanks bunches for your reply! ~ Sis, Patty

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Patricia Schneider October 25, 2013 at 12:22 am

This is for DocReits, Pastor Jack. OK?

Hello, DocReits!
Your reply to Phillippe (October 24, 2013) was simply WOW! Praying that Phillippe DOES read it and God’s Holy Spirit unhardens his heart and open his ‘spiritual eyes’ to the TRUTH of God’s Word. (“…in the beautiful, mighty name of JESUS, AMEN!!”) Especially, ACCEPT JESUS AS HIS SAVIOR!! Right, Doc?

Love sharing things with my siblings in Christ, DocReits! Especially when they’re more ‘mature’ than me in God’s Word. (Still a ‘babe in the woods’ there! Hee-Hee! But as I told Pastor Jack, I’m a ‘work in progress!’ Aren’t we all, Brother?)

Thank bunches for reaching out to all of us!
God’s wonderful blessings and graces be showered upon you, DocReits, and your family!!
Always your Sis in Christ Jesus ~ Patty

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DocReits October 27, 2013 at 2:20 am

Hi Patty,

Thank you for your kind words.

“I’m a ‘work in progress!’ Aren’t we all, Brother?)”

I’m still waiting for “the work to begin” Patty. There has forever (it seems) been this big sign up around my life, “Caution, demolition in progress!!” I still need to be broken more apparently, something about how you get the juice from “squeezing” the grapes, I guess…;-)

BTW, Pastor Jack is the quintessential Christian apologist. He even has a book published on the topic. So if you need insights for speaking to the unsaved …he is the go to guy.

You can likewise sharpen your apologetic skills by going to Youtube and typing in “John Lennox”. There you will see a prince of a Christian apologist (and Jack’s personal friend) out of Oxford University. His debates with atheists, such as Richard Dawkins (also from Oxford) are superb.

Blessings upon you and yours Patty,

DocReits

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Jack Wellman October 27, 2013 at 8:38 am

Doc, you are more than too kind to me. The only reason that I know anything about evangelism is from all of the mistakes I had made. One bank CEO was retiring and the new, young CEO who was taking over this large bank asked the retiring CEO how he was able to be so successful. The older man said “Good decision.” As the senior man was cleaning out his desk, the young man asked him again about how me knew how to make good decisions and he said “Experience.” When the young man was following the retiring CEO out the door he couldn’t resist again and asked, how this experience allowed him to make good decisions. The retiring CEO said “bad decisions.” So you see that anything that I have learned was how to effectively proclaim the gospel with boldness…this does not mean that there is not some fear. I am old now and told one young man from Australia who I told was going to take up the mantel from us who won’t be around much longer: It takes a man of God with the Word of God and the Spirit of God to make the children of God. I love atheists and agnostics because God does and doesn’t want them to perish anymore than He wanted to see us perish. As for “quintessential” I would say that I deserve no credit for what have I learned or gotten that I did not first receive, therefore we all know who the glory goes to and it is most certainly not me! In any event, thank you sir. You are a blessing to this website, to Patty, to me and surely to those who know you.

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Patricia Schneider October 27, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Hello, Pastor Jack! This is for DocReits again.(October 27, 2013)

Hello, Doc!
You are right on point about our brother, Pastor Jack Wellman!!
Yet, what he says is true… ALL THE GLORY goes to our Father God!!!

Had to laugh at your statement, “Caution, demolition in progress!” That cracked me up silly, Doc, ’cause sometimes I feel the same way!Hee-Hee!
Appreciated your analogy regarding “needing to be broken more’ by “get the juice from ‘squeezing’ the grapes.”
Our Father God will ‘break’ us whenever He believes we are straying too far from the path HE has chosen for us. Could be in the form of a rebuke, discipline…like an earthly, loving father is to his kids.
As you know, Doc, our Father is PERFECT, and 100% loving!!!
HE truly desires a personal relationship w/all His children. Sending His only Son, Jesus, to pay the ransom for all humankind’s sins by dying on Calvary’s Tree…our sins are not only forgiven but we’re promised eternal life in God’s Kingdom in accepting Jesus as our Savior, & reconciled with our Father God!

You know, Doc, I became ‘born-again’ after reading many, many articles on this site, WCWTK. Especially those from Pastor Jack Wellman. He’s truly one of God’s Sweethearts Doc! (Wish I had all the spiritual knowledge of God’s Word, still learning; SOMETHING Pastor Jack could use of me for God personally. I really think I would leave my home & family to join Pastor Jack in his ministry. So far, though, haven’t received a ‘signal’ from God that this would be part of His Plan for me & Pastor Jack’s, too.
God’s Will, God’s Plan, God’s perfect Timing! Right, Doc?

Oodles of God’s wonderful blessings and graces be showered upon you, DocReits, and your family!
Always, your Sis in Christ Jesus ~ Patty
P.S. Thanks bunches for the info on apologists, Doc!
P.S.S. HOW did you put up your profile pic? Pastor Jack tried so many times in teaching me, but always just didn’t get it right! Oh, Pastor was sooo sweet, Doc, and so patient w/me! Maybe God doesn’t want me to post any profile pic? Or most likely, I’m a tad dumb in following instructions! Hee-Hee!

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Jack Wellman October 27, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Oh Patty….how I wish God WOULD send you a sign that He wants you to be with the church I am under shepherd of….(that’s a bit selfish, eh?) but we do need godly women of faith like you who are so humble and yet hunger for the Word of God. As for being patient, I have found the person that I have the most difficulty in dealing with and run out of patience with and he is right under my nose! I see him daily….in the mirror! LOL

And yes, we must give glory and credit where it deserves to be and it isn’t me….no brainer, its to God be all the glory, honor, and praise forever and ever, amen.

Thanks my sainted sister in Christ.

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Nena December 19, 2014 at 2:52 am

I am a new Christian and what others would refer to as Sola Scriptura. I pray alot, now even my inner dialogue is conversing with God. I come here because the articles keep me centered, grounded and help me when I am confused about something I don’t understand in the Bible or when I am in turmoil, anxiety or distress. I have yet to not find a comforting word from here and the comments sections are like healing waters! I nip pride in the bud by remembering that yes I used my free will to do the right thing or accomplish something but if God did not put me in that situation in the first place, it would never have happened.

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Jack Wellman October 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm

Well said. I was wrong and wasn’t the first and won’t be the last. I am falliable and not without error. This shows that I must have been prideful for which I apologize and humbly repent and ask for forgiveness. I am a sinner and in need of mercy I am wrong and not afraid to say so. A disaster of a pastor and a train wreck that fortunately can still come to HIm for forgiveness. I agree. I think it helps. I wasn’t helping, naturally, as seems to be the course lately. Thank you sir.

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Michael Kampff October 2, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Pastor Jack, I’m afraid my comments may have been very poorly communicated or drastically misunderstood.

All I’m doing in my comments is working through an issue that’s on my mind. Your responses WERE helpful and helped me work through my questions. And I appreciated your responsiveness a great deal. I didn’t mean to communicate that they weren’t helpful or you were wrong in any way. We grow in faith together, and I appreciate the dialog we had.

I’m saddened by your last comment, as I only intended to add value to your post. In my experience when someone speaks up with a question, it’s likely that others are probably thinking something similar. I thought our dialog was being helpful, regardless of the “perfect answer”.

Anyway, I value your leadership and perspective and hope to read more of your teaching. I hope that my comments are still welcome.

In Christ

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Jack Wellman October 2, 2013 at 1:32 pm

Thank you and so sorry my last comments. I am afraid at times, if you have read other articles of the 300 plus I have written, that I get beat up fairly often on non-essentials and yes, your dialoge has been helpful. Please know that you are ALWAYS welcome to comment my friend…please don’t take my comments as not wanting you to come back and freely express your thoughts as iron sharpens iron and rust never sleeps. Sometimes I do have an oversensitive spirit from all of the negative comments and I have no excuse…you were not negative but helpful. You comments are always welcome. I must remain humble and sometimes the reverse vanity hits me too (I’m nothing, no good, not much…etc.) so this too is pride. Thank you and PLEASE do come back sir.

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