Christian Depression Help – Biblical Encouragement and Advice

by Jack Wellman on April 11, 2011 · Print Print · Email Email

Everyone goes through depression from time to time. It is absolutely normal, even for Christians.  However it becomes a problem when you remain in a state of depression of an extended period of time.  What can a Christian do when they encounter depression?  What advice can we find in the pages of scripture?

What is the Source of Depression?

First of all, there is nothing wrong with being depressed.  It is natural for all people to experience times of depression.  When you are unable to break loose from a prolonged state of depression, you can seek counseling from a licensed Christian counselor or therapist.  They are trained in how to deal with depression and they hold to biblical principles and values so you can find God’s perspective and receive the help you need.  Aside from seeing a counselor or therapist, what particular Bible verses or stories can help a person break free from such a state?

There are several people in the Bible who endured depression and to such an extent where they contemplated suicide.  Of course suicide is never an answer.  It never solves anything.  We can read of others who went through severe depression and they are a veritable “who’s who” of the Bible:  Job (Book of Job), Abraham (Gen. 15), Jeremiah (Book of Jeremiah), Jonah (chapter 4), King Saul (I Sam 16), Elijah (I Kings 19), and even the greatest king that Israel ever had, King David (Book of Psalms).

Depression

Our emotions can change from day to day, but God never changes (Heb 13:8, Malachi 3:6)

Sometimes depres- sion has a physical cause and not an emotional cause.  I used to work as a Mental Health Case Manager and there are brain chemical imbalances that can cause severe depression. These are treatable.  At other times depression can be caused by emotional upheavals.  It’s important to realize that our emotions can not change our state of salvation.  We might have doubts and fears but God’s Word is certain and sure.  We can depend upon God’s unchanging nature; our emotions can change from day to day, but God never changes (Heb 13:8, Malachi 3:6).  His Word gives a believer so much hope and has real power in it to encourage us.

God loved you so much that He sent His only Son to die for you and me (John 3:16).  Why?  Because God loves you unconditionally.  The Psalms are one of the greatest books in the Bible that can help us realize just how much God watches over us and is protecting us.  The Word of God is so full of the reassurance of God’s love.  Read these verses to see exactly what He thinks of you:

Bible Verses To Help With Depression

Zechariah, 2:8: “For this is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye.”

Deuteronomy 32:10:  “In a desert land he found him, in a barren and howling waste. He shielded him and cared for him; he guarded him as the apple of his eye.”

Psalms 17:8: “Keep me as the apple of your eye; hide me under the shadow of your wings”

Psalm 27:5: “For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling; he will hide me in the shelter of his tabernacle and set me high upon a rock.”

Psalm 36:7: “How priceless is your unfailing love! Both high and low among men find refuge in the shadow of your wings.”

Psalm 63:7: “Because you are my help, I sing in the shadow of your wings.”

Psalm 91:1: “He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.”

Psalm 91:4: “He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart (a fortification, a means of protection or defense).”

Jeremiah 29:11: “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”

Joshua 1:5: “No one will be able to stand against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Hebrews 13:5b has a similar saying, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

Saved vs. Unsaved and Depression

Of course when a person loses a spouse, a child, a close friend or relative, it is natural to go into a state of depression.  This is a fallen world and things go wrong, but a great way to beat depression is to give thanks to God.  This is how King David came out of his depression.  David did not write all of the Psalms, but when you read the Psalms that he did write, you’ll find that they often start out with David being in sheer agony, hopelessness, and even in a state of depression — but keep reading.  David usually ends his Psalms by giving thanks to God: for His salvation, for His faithfulness, for His certain deliverance, for His protection.  We have a hope and a future that the world doesn’t have.  I often feel empathy for those in the world who are not saved.  They have no security in their tomorrows.  They don’t know where their deliverance will come from.  They do not have a God that is watching their back.

When I have experienced depression from time to time, I have sought the advice of others.  One thing that is helpful is to volunteer to help others.  It has harder to be depressed when we are helping others.  Also, find a trusted friend, family member, or a fellow Christian in whom you can confide in and talk with.  Sometimes just talking about your depression can help you identify what the root causes are.  Why not try writing out on a piece of paper the many things that you have to be thankful for (I Thess. 5:18).  These may include having a family, a home, a job, food on your table.  Even the poorest Americans are far richer than the vast majority of the world.  They can not always lay their head down at night safely on a pillow, inside a home, or know where their next meal is coming from.   It is hard to be depressed when we are giving thanks.

Disclaimer: This is not professional advice. If you remain in an extended period of depression, seek medical help, see your doctor, or seek a qualified counselor or therapist. It is believed that depression can be caused by a variety of reasons such as a chemical imbalance in the brain, hormonal changes, brain irregularities or other causes that may be undiagnosed. If you feel suicidal, seek immediate help.

Additional Helpful Internet Resources:

gotquestions GotQuestions.org is a volunteer ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics.

Focus on the Family – life challenges Focus on the Family offers one-time complimentary consultation from a Christian perspective. They also offer referrals for licensed Christian counselors in your area.

Selah Mountain Ministries Biblical Counseling Selah Mountain Ministries offers Biblical Counseling to the community in Albuquerque, New Mexico. They also offer counseling via video conference. They believe that if God gave us His Word as a gift to humanity, it would not be proper to charge someone to share His gift. This means they do not charge for services nor turn anyone away for inability to pay or make a donation.


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Pam June 18, 2011 at 3:41 pm

Nice article Jack, I have one that we often recommend to the one that is suffering with depression. We challenge them to memorize it:

Philippians 4:4-7 ( KJV )
4Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. 5Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.
6Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Thinking on the right things is a good place to begin.

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Glenn Seaman November 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm

Thanks this helps to takes the worry out of commiting suicide now that I will not lose my salvation. Because of what the govt. has done to my life I have no reason to live anymore.The churches I tried to get help from did’t care that what the govt. is doing is wrong they stand with the govt.

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Jack November 29, 2011 at 3:30 pm

Mr. Seaman, thank you for your comment. Please don’t do anything drastic, I beg you to get counseling. We will pray for you sir and we can beseech God Almighty, in Jesus’ name, to get you help in finances and in knowing that others are praying for you. Do you have a church home that can help you out temporarily? Our church has a benevolent fund for such emergencies for families in our community. Go to someone or seek help, even if it is professional help. I am not condoning suicide, I am just stating that depression is a serious issue and that God can help and He will use other people to help you. Know that you are not alone. We will be praying for you. PLEASE don’t do anything drastic, I beg you, in the name of our Lord and God.

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Sherry March 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm

This morning I came online searching for ANYTHING that may help me focus on my faith and God’s love. Without being a Doctor I am still of mind to say that I feel I am beyond clinically depressed. I suffer from Multiple Sclerosis which in itself causes depression and at times severe physical pain. My icing on the cake sp to speak is for the last 11 years I have been dealing with Ovarian and Bladder Cancer which have included multiple rounds of Radiation and over 30 surgeries. I have shut myself off from the outside world, people, friends, family because I “fear” being around anyone. I am married but it has been a difficult 15 years as he’s not a Believer and is abusive mentally, physically, and has had two affairs which resulted in him bringing home Stds which were passed on to me and of course these add complications to my existing health concerns. I realize and admit I have an “unhealthy” love for him and have not been able to break free. We have a BEAUTIFUL daughter who just started middle school and I love her with everything I have. I try to hide the tears, depression, etc, but it’s just not fair to her as I know she isn’t stupid and knows the turmoil in our home. Today I sit here crying asking for any and all prayers as I feel I’ve reached the bottom. Thank you

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Jack March 3, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Sherry, I am so sorry for all that you are going thru and all you have endured. What a trial that I have not heard anything to compare to. You can count on my prayers. Your daughter sounds like such a blessing and so you have her to go on for. I am at a loss to help you, but only prayers before the throne of God for you. I know it is not much for what you are experiencing, but praying for you and your daughter too. This trial is so severe, that prayer is the only thing we can do but is also the most powerful thing.

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A Little Bible Devotion March 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Very thoughtful article! Thank you for posting it and for including the bible verse’s focused on God’s love and care for us.

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A Little Bible Devotion March 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Typo correction…bible verses… :)

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Jack March 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm

And I thank you so much for your kind words. Truly God wants us to comfort and love one another and the Word of God, from the Bible will truly do it. Please come back again when you can.

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PAT May 26, 2012 at 12:24 am

SHERRY, I AM SORRY FOR ALL YOUR, AND YOUR FAMILYS STRUGGLES. KEEP PRAYING FOR YOUR DAUGHTER, AND YOUR HUSBAND. DON’T LET THE DEVIL, OR YOUR HUSBAND STEAL YOUR JOY. PRAY FOR STRENGTH, AND GUIDANCE, AND WISDOM. I DON’T KNOW YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION, BUT I WILL PRAY FOR ALL OF YOU. GOD BLESS.

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cheryl dalton June 11, 2012 at 9:39 pm

I wrote and left message but I didnt tell you how to notifly me thank you cheryl dalton

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Jack Wellman June 12, 2012 at 5:23 pm

Thank you Cheryl. I got your message and will respond by private email for your discretion. Thank you for your visit. We are here for you friend.

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Anita June 15, 2012 at 8:17 pm

I am VERY depressed and stressed right now and cannot seem to get out of it. I need prayers that someone will find favor in helping me. I work; I always have. I am just in a financial bind at the moment. I’m two months behind on each, my house and car payments. I don’t know what to do. I live alone and that makes it even harder. Please help with prayers!!!

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Jack Wellman June 15, 2012 at 9:18 pm

Will pray for you Anita. I hope others who read this will join me in behalf of Anita.

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Anita June 15, 2012 at 9:24 pm

Thank you, Jack. I really need prayers. God Bless You and anyone else on this site who might feel depressed.

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Sherry June 16, 2012 at 6:49 am

Anita, I am putting you in my prayer “bucket” and will be thinking of you as well. I have been in the same boat with added circumstances so can understand how depressed you are and how you may be feeling there is no hope. Please believe that God is ALWAYS watching over us and has some sort of plan that may not be clear to us so it tends to be harder to keep the faith. All I can say is Let go and Let God. Sometimes we just have to let it all go and trust with blind faith that all will work in Gods plan and in His glory. I don’t know if this post will let me show my personal email but I am putting it up for you Anita if you would like to talk with more privacy and to have someone there who can not only pray for you but also lend an ear for you to vent, cry, and let it all out. My email is rainicloud@MSN.com. My prayers and thoughts are with you.

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Anita June 20, 2012 at 10:52 am

I SO need financial assistance Lord!!! Please help me.

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Kenya August 8, 2012 at 5:51 pm

Im trying to get my life right with God but it’s so hard. I don’t know where to start or what to do can someone please help me. A prayer partner will be great. My email s cw052001@yahoo.com thanks and God Bless.

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Sherry August 9, 2012 at 3:25 am

Kenya, I sent you an email at the address you posted. Know that my prayers and thoughts are with you. With God any and all is possible. Sometimes though it feels as if He is taking us beyond our breaking point but I learned to blindly put all my faith in Him and trust that it will all work out in an dfor Gods will. Blessings to you Kenya.

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Florence August 14, 2012 at 6:48 pm

Sherry, you had been going through a lot. But, what is amazing is your understanding of other’s problems and extending your support through prayer and encouraging others is truly wonderful. I am sure God is giving you the faith and strength that you need. You are a spark of light to others. Wonderful. Keep strong in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you, your daughter and show you the right way to sort things in your life that will be good for you. God bless.

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DebbieDowns August 25, 2012 at 11:04 pm

I dnt want to kill myself. I just want to get outta here. I wanna take out a policy for my children so when I die they wont be in alot of debt. I hate this ugly world. My life is nothin special. I want my ticket out of here. But I dnt want to losw God or Jesus christ. I am saved. I am not happy.

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Jack Wellman August 26, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Debbie, I am so sorry for what you are going thru. You were made for a special purpose and so please don’t do anything drastic. I beg you to seek professional help now. Your children need you, what about your husband? What about your parents? Your friends? God did not say your life is nothing special…but just the opposite. Please get help. I will pray for you right now.

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Maria October 9, 2012 at 10:01 pm

I need prayers for my sister Moira. She is severally depressed. She has tried to commit suicide once and we think she is close again. She didn’t get the help she needed.

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lila October 21, 2012 at 6:47 pm

I grew up with a lot of hidden issues in my life. Social anxiety, introvert just to name a few. Well now as an adult, all my childhood issues are beginning to resurface. Lately Ive been in a state of depression and Ive isolated myself from people as much as possible. I just want to be alone and besides I really dont have any friends (by choice). Ive had thoughts of suicide but I know thats just the enemy. Im saved and I believe that this too shall pass . Keep me in prayer. Thanks

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Jack Wellman October 21, 2012 at 6:49 pm

Hello Lila. I too suffer from depression and sometimes these bouts get very serious so I understand and perhaps that is what motivated me to write this. I most certainly will keep you in mind Lila in my prayers. I too believe it will pass.

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Lila November 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Thank you for your prayers Jack Wellman. I made it! God is so good. Its always the enemy that seeks to devour and destroy. I thank God for deliverance! I just pray that all those that are going through depression will turn to Christ for help and not give up.

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Michelle October 31, 2012 at 11:35 am

Good afternoon, I have always dealt with depression and always hear and fight with myself about alot of things. Im very strong and will give up my life just so that someone else is out of their pain. I am the oldest and the thought of suicide has always been in the back of my mind, but then I remind myself that that is selfish, and I catch myself and just pray and cry for this to pass. School has been terrible I have tried time and time again to do the best, but it never comes out that way, I am doing horrible in all of my classes. The exams I always think I do well on, I do the worst. I feel as though I am a failure. So many look up to me which only makes my state worse. I am financial not able to afford this school, but I know God didn’t bring me here to give up on it. I just want to leave this earth I just want to leave. Not by suicide just off of this earth. I want to leave, me being here on earth feels like torture and taunting. Im praying Im praying and trying… I just need help overall.

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Jack Wellman October 31, 2012 at 3:23 pm

Michelle…I am so glad you came. Please talk to your pastor immediately. When I went to college, it was the most difficult time ever. Stay on your knees…put it all on His shoulders. Jesus said, “Come to me ALL ye who are heavy laiden and I will give you rest.” Fall on, lean upon, trust in, cry to Him and He alone can help you. Read Psalm 103 and 37. Cry out to Him. He will not cast you away who come to Him (John 6:37). You are precious in His sight. Look to Him, read His Word, pray to Him. I will pray for God to strengthen you.

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Lila November 2, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Michelle I don’t know you but what you are going though sounds very familiar to what I went through in school. I know it can get rough, I know the work can be hard and you try your best and your best doesn’t seem to be good enough. But you hang in there and know that this trouble WILL NOT last always!!! You will succeed, you will win, you will pass your exam, you can do it!!! God is not far from you, He hasn’t forgotten about you. Satan wants you to quit, he wants us ALL to quit when things get rough. Satan will whisper “suicide” in your ear, BUT God is saying ‘you can do it, “I AM WITH YOU’.

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Kim November 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm

I come to you a depressed soul. I wonder everyday if life can really get any better. Things right now are so hard right now. I feel as if I am never gonna to dig out of this rut I am in. I hate my job it stresses me so. I go day to day worrying if the store I work at is going to get shut down. If it does I wonder how I will feed my kids. My husband works but does not make enough to keep a roof over our heads, food in our stomach, clothes on our back or elctricity. I hope everyday for a way out. I have a 14 year old daughter is has alot of issues and behavior problems. We argue constantly. She has made comments about not loving me, hating her family, she wonders why I even had her. Its hard to hear your kids tell you things like that. I love her with everything I have and everything I am. I would do anything for both my daughters. I can honestly say I don’t have thoughts of suicide, but there are days I just want to pack all our belongings and just move off. Me and my husband have been together for 4 years now and have struggled financially every year. Everytime we feel we have our heads above the water someone or something pulls us right back down. I go into my room at night sometimes and just cry cause I don’t know what else to do. I know God is there and I know he hears my cries and troubles. Reading your message and seeing others troubles has helped me see I am not alone. Thank you so much for your words of wisdom.

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Lila November 2, 2012 at 1:39 pm

Kim hang in there honey. God is there and He hears your cries and He knows all about your troubles. Christ told us that “in the world ye shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer for I have overcome the world”. So again I say hang in there, things will get better. May I ask are you saved? Romans 10:9 says “If you declare with your mouth ‘Jesus is Lord’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved”.

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Kim November 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm

Thank you Lila for your words of wisdom. Yes I am saved. Growing up I was big in church. My father was a Youth Pastor so when ever I would go to visit I was always right there learning and growing in God. But I haven’t been as close to God as I was. I have attended church over the years but have not felt at home like I did when I was younger. I know I need to get back that relationship I once had.

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Nelson November 8, 2012 at 5:24 am

Pls I need an advice on how to help a friend who is currently addicted to coccaine and She’s really wants to be free from it.I need an urgent reply because she’s depressed right now,I want her to have her life back and to accept JesUs as her Lord and saviour.I also need ur prayers on this. Thanks

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Jack Wellman November 8, 2012 at 12:44 pm

Hello Nelson. I am so happy you are trying to find help for your friend for her addiction. We actually have an article just for this specific problem and it is full of counsel and biblical resources. Please read this link:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-can-i-overcome-addiction-and-sin-in-my-life/

for more help. Show her this immediately and I thank God that she has a godly friend who cares enough to help her break this strong hold. It can be done for we can do all things thru Christ Who will strengthen her.

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Carol November 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I going thru depression now and need prayer. I don’t think of killing myself,but can’t seem to find a reason for living. I just lost my job and I feel so alone. After reading some of these post, I know there are people worst off than I am, but I pray for each of you that God will help us all.
I really don’t know if anyone will see this, I just found this place on the internet. God have mercy on all of us.
Thank you,
Carol
ccook44@windstream.net

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Jack Wellman November 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm

Hello Carol. I am so sorry your are experiencing depression and we will pray for you my friend. Yes, God have mercy on us all. Some of the greatest biblical heroes lived with great depression and the number of contemporary Bible teachers and preachers in the last 200-300 years are significant and God WILL help us and this includes you Carol. God bless. We love you.

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Joe Sewell November 11, 2012 at 3:27 pm

When you’re going through depression, sometimes you feel like you cannot talk about it to anybody. Sometimes that’s not a bad thing, actually. I grew up (though some would debate that I ever grew up :-) ) in a small, rural town in which everybody “knew” everybody else’s business, and were quick to judge. Your close family may have that same trait. sometimes it’s not best to talk to one of them, because it may just feed the depression … or, I should say, the mental portion of depression.

For many of us, depression has a physical and a mental aspect. The physical is the chemical imbalances, serotonin issues, and the like that Jack mentions in the article. The mental includes the thoughts, inner torments, and temptations that come too often to mind. I am convinced that only God can truly separate one from the other, though it rarely matters. Medication can take care of the physical, and that can grant us the ability to deal with the mental.

You need to find someone you can trust. It’s sad that there are so few Christian psychiatrists (those who can prescribe medication) and psychologists (those who cannot prescribe). Your primary care physician may be open to a psychologist’s medical recommendations, but not always. Although it’s especially difficult for those of us with depression and anxiety disorders to do this, we must remain in control of our health, even if it means refusing a medication that the Holy Spirit may tell us is not right for us.

Often I have wondered if my depression, panic disorder, and general anxiety disorder (plus suspected chronic stress disorder and a handful of other possibilities) is my version of Paul’s “thorn in the flesh” to keep me humble. Sometimes it seems as though it works too well, laying me so low that I cannot feel pride in anything … yet even in depression I am self-centered, which is the real problem.

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josue November 11, 2012 at 9:58 pm

I need prayers.
I lost God and the faith around 7th grade. I’ve been having a really rough time lately. School is horrible. Relationship breakups. And very depressed with life. I’m ashamed to say that I thought of suicide… It’s just not something I ever saw myself trying to do. I keep failing exams because I can’t focus and I haven’t gone to class in a month. Last night I drove on the highway for 2 hrs just to try and vent. Tonight I found myself for the first time at a church. Right before I decided to go inside I turned around to leave… Thought maybe it wasn’t for me. Some person saw me and idk if he knew something was up but shook my hand and helped me inside. I felt as if all eyes were on me. Church group was just letting out so all the college kids were looking at me. I spent an hour praying… And now I find myself still depressed. Still lost. Still failing. And still falling in debt with school. I just need help… Its taken so long to accept it…

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Jack Wellman November 11, 2012 at 10:09 pm

Hello Josue. I believe the reason you are struggling is that you may be having spiritual battles. Please, the turning around from church was from the Devil. The very place you felt you needed to go but turned around is the very place you need most right now. Christ is the Head of the Church and He loves you but He can not teach you and have others pray for you when you are being a lone ranger Christian. We are commanded to “not forsake the assembling of ourselves” (Heb 10:25) but that is just what you are doing. You need to call that pastor, pray with him, counsel with him, ask that Jesus’ rebukes these spiritual attacks.

Another thing is that you need to go to someone or seek help, even if it is professional help. Depression is a serious issue and that God can help but we also need professional help. It could be a brain-chemical imbalance, a brain irregularity and it may well be treatable. It is not a character flaw or a moral weakness but depression can many times have a physical cause that is treatable. See your doctor, tell him these things, talk to a pastor, seek help immediately and I will pray for you Josue. Don’t give up. It may be as easy as a doctor’s prescription. Don’t delay. Also talk to a school counselor or your school adviser (if your in college) and your parents too! Don’t delay one minute!

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Lila November 12, 2012 at 12:20 pm

To Josue, you say you lost God and the faith around the 7th grade…. I encourage you to go back God. The only way to God is through the Son, Jesus Christ. John 3:16 tells us that “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life”. Having thoughts of suicide is quite normal when your dealing with depression…because that is the tactic of the enemy. The enemy wants you to quit, the enemy wants you dead! But Christ wants you to have life and to have have life ABUNDANTLY. Go read John 10:10 from the Bible. Its good that you have prayed, you said you spent an hour praying which is good. You have communicated your feelings to God, now its time for you to listen to what He has to say back to you! The only way you can know what He has to say back to you is by reading the Bible. Everything God wants to say to us is in His Word. Just know that depression is something that we ALL may go through at some point in our lives, but you just hang in there and know that your trouble WONT last always. Get your Bible and SEEK THE LORD and hear what HE has to SAY TO YOU JOSUE!

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Trevor November 24, 2012 at 8:36 pm

Psalm 55:22

Praying, believing, and awaiting breakthrough for each of you!

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Linda December 2, 2012 at 1:11 am

Hello to everyone, I just found this site. I read all of the post. We all go through something. Our loving Father Jesus Christ. Still sits on The Throne.God is Amazing, Loving,Concern about all of us. God is All Knowing. Nothing gets by that God is unware of. Let us continue to seek God in everything do. or whatever where going through. Man may fail us but God never does. I love you all ,with the love Christ. Let us all remember to hold one another up in prayer. Be blessed!!!

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Susan December 16, 2012 at 7:31 am

Please contact me through my email. I would prefer to speak with you privately. Thank you so much

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Jack Wellman December 16, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Hello Susan. I have contacted you privately and not shared your email address with anyone.

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Mary December 27, 2012 at 4:40 pm

Hello,

I just read this article and I’ve suffered with undiagnosed depression since I was a child. Now that I’m 26 and through everything that I’ve been through that I would not like to mention here, I can’t seem to get out of it. I’ve been a Christian for a long time and lately I force myself to do the bare minimum because of my son and I hate myself for it. I talk to God and I feel encouraged, but I can’t get out of it. No one understands what’s wrong with me because they don’t know that no matter how hard I try and want to do the things required of me and that I actually want to do I just can’t snap out of it and make myself do it. Which of course makes me more upset with myself. I feel like a failure. I want so much just to be happy and not have so much trouble just trying to do everyday things, it’s driving me crazy. I don’t want to take medication, and I can’t swallow pills anyways. Sometimes I just feel like I’m a lost cause because no matter how hard I struggle to climb out of the well I seem to fall back into effortlessly. I want out so bad. Is there a way I can be myself without medication? My sister’s both have taken different medications with bad side effects. I don’t need to be worse, I’m sure anyone suffering understands.

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Jack Wellman December 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm

Hello Mary. I was a former Mental Health Case Manager and sometimes medicine is the greatest help with can get. One of the Apostles was a doctor (Luke) and Jesus said the “sick need a physician.” You wrote, “I don’t want to take medication, and I can’t swallow pills anyways.” No one likes taking medicine but we all need to do this because it is God’s will. Medicine comes in the form of liquid and so pills may not be needed. You can also crush them and put them into a drink or water. There is something wrong here and taking medicine is not a sign of weakness. It may be a real physical cause with your brain and it is not a moral or character weakness. You will not get better without help. Have you talked to your pastor about this too? Do you even have a church home? Christians need other Christians and no one is supposed to go thru the life in Christ alone or without help of the saints.

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Mary December 27, 2012 at 10:27 pm

Mr. Wellman,

Thank you for replying. Yes I do have a church home and my pastor and his wife know to some degree that I suffer with depression, but no, not to the extent that I do.
Just because it “may” be a physical cause does not mean that God could not heal me. What happened to “With God, all things are possible”? This is why I hesitated to post in the first place, there is so little faith. And, you really mean “You will not get better without medicine” don’t you? Because, yes, I’ve also been in counseling for a little over a year. Medicine is not harmless, death is a real side effect. I am not ignorant. I have chosen to live life punctuated by depression than to take a very real chance at death. Living life, even if not in it’s fullest is better than not living at all, or heightening any symptoms. Also, I believe that Jesus was referring to himself in that statement, true healing comes from God, not medicine. Medicine only dampens symptoms, or heightens them, it can’t heal. I’m sorry I’ve wasted your time. Mary

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Jack Wellman December 28, 2012 at 10:56 am

Hello Mary. I am so sorry that I have seemed to upset you. You have NOT wasted my time for that is why we are here. Yes, with God all things are possible but the context of that verse was not about healing. God does not promise an end to our physical suffering in this world. Paul begged God three times to heal him but God answered “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9). God is more concerned with our souls than our bodies.

Listen to the words of Peter, the great Apostle, one who healed others himself. “Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed” (1 Peter 4:12-13). Now while Peter is talking about the suffering that comes from standing for Christ, as a witness for Him, how we stand faithful in our pain is also a witness for Him. Notice then that we are not to be surprised by suffering. We are not to go demanding that God heal us. We are to rejoice that we are allowed to suffer so that God will be glorified in our dependence on Him.) We have certainly seen this principle of God using the suffering of believers to His glory. Joni Eareckson Tada, a paraplegic, has had the opportunity to touch the lives of many physically challenged individuals because of her willingness to accept God’s decision to remain in her chair.

Timothy was never healed of his stomach problems and that is why Paul told him to take a little wine for his frequent stomach ailments. Jesus suffered more than any one has ever suffered and when Jesus asked in the Garden to remove this cup (of the coming cross) the Father told Him no. Jesus said, “thy will be done.”

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Joe Sewell December 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Mary,

Know that, when I say this, I’m in the same boat as you, except without a son and about twice your age.

This is not a faith issue. Your statements make that clear. You’re also correct in quoting the verse, “with God, all things are possible.” The problem with that statement is that it doesn’t make us the boss of God. It is possible for God to heal you and me without medications, just as it was possible for God to heal the one blind man without spitting in the dirt, or for God to heal Paul of his undescribed “thorn in the flesh.” It’s also possible, though, that God chooses to use methods different from what we would prefer.

My wife is dealing with diabetes and liver cancer. She had faith that, after the initial surgery, God was going to clean her completely of cancer. Many people have seen just such a miracle. For whatever reason, though, God didn’t choose to do that. Instead, God has chosen to put her through some interesting treatments, which are effective but result in some side effects, including her blood sugars going out of control. She resisted being on insulin, because she couldn’t stand the thought of “sticking” herself. She has been doing it for several weeks now, and while she may still prefer not to, she is handling it. Her mother resisted being put on dialysis, but a reaction to an antibiotic shut down her already-weak kidneys, forcing her into dialysis. She still doesn’t like it, but she realizes it’s not as bad as she thought it would be, even with the experiences of other family members.

My wife’s family thinks like you about medications and their side effects. Something to remember, though, is that the list of side effects mentioned in commercials and medical references do *not* mean you *will* get all of them, or even one of them. A good doctor, though, will weigh the benefits against the potential side effects. Sometimes the benefit is worth the risk. Now, I’m not saying that antidepressants have no side effects, or that they won’t make you feel “weird.” Like with any other medication, two antidepressants that are even in the same class of medication will affect different people differently. I don’t know if your sisters worked closely with their prescribing doctors about the side effects, but they needed to do so if they didn’t. If one antidepressant makes you feel weird, or has various side effects, call the doctor immediately. Get to an ER if it’s that drastic.

Can God heal without medication? Yes. Will He? Sometimes, no. God chose to work through a doctor to get my depression, panic and anxiety disorders, and several other issues through medication. One of them had a nasty physical side effect that, even after being off of the particular medication for at least 7 years (probably longer), has not gone away. (It was a blood pressure medication that caused my legs to swell, restricting my movement slightly. I am still able to walk on my own, though not as fast or as far as I used to.) I should have mentioned the issue right away, instead of waiting as long as I did. I was blessed with the antidepressant and the anti-anxiety medications, as I haven’t had any issues with them, although my current doctor doesn’t want to try switching them out to see if the antidepressant is getting less effective. (I’m still not convinced that’s an issue for everybody, but it’s something I’ve heard.)

Did the antidepressant cure me of depression completely? No, it did not. Depression is definitely a two-edged sword; the physical affects the mental/emotional, which affects the physical, and so forth. What it did, though, was get one part of it out of the way, so I could deal with the other. I’m still dealing with it, after over 10 years of being on medication, BUT I can deal with life far better now than I used to. I still get tempted to be down on myself, and I must admit to giving in to those temptations too often, mostly out of habit but not always.

Allow me to encourage you to step out in faith and let God heal you the way He wants to heal you, even if it’s through medication. Find a *good* psychiatrist, as a psychiatrist can prescribe medication as well as deal with the mental issues. If at all possible, find a Christian one, though they are way too rare. If one is not available, talk with your primary doctor. You could also try someone with a D.O. after his name; that would be a Doctor of Osteopathy, who is trained almost identically to an M.D., but has additional experience in areas most M.D.’s won’t touch. (A friend of mine suffered from major anxiety attacks until he saw a D.O. for something completely unrelated. The doctor was able to determine where his glandular system failed, causing the attacks.)

Above all else, though, resist the notion that you’re to blame, or that you are a failure because of your depression. Job was depressed, yet he did not sin. The man in the Gospels born blind did not sin — Jesus said so! Elijah was depressed for no good reason, yet nothing bad he had done caused it. It’s just one more way the enemy of God attacks His creation, and God has a way out, even if it’s through medication, counseling, or just His grace.

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Joe Sewell December 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm

Sorry, Mary, I just now noticed that you have been through counseling. Forgive me for missing that in my earlier reply.

In some cases medications *can* heal, but in the realm of antidepressants, you are correct when you say that “medicine only dampens symptoms.” Sometimes, though, it’s that dampening that is needed to allow God to heal the rest.

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Mary December 29, 2012 at 9:52 am

Thank you both for replying,

To Mr. Wellman, I have never demanded that God heal me, although I have asked him to heal me. I just don’t think that I’ve actually accepted that even if he doesn’t it’s ok. Sid Roth mentioned a good point once about how there is no time with God so if we ask him to heal us and then even a few months to a year we are struggling with our conviction God hears something along these lines one right after the other because there is no time with him, “God please heal me, I believe. God, I can’t do this, why haven’t I been healed? God, I know you can heal me, I believe. God, why?” It really put some things into perspective for me. And I always did think that people like Miss Tada, Timothy and Paul are amazing examples, I just never put depression into the same mix cause it always seemed more mental than physical. I’ve had the same issue with my son as he was diagnosed with autism a little over a year ago now after he’d already been through so much. I have definitely struggled with, I know God can heal him, and I should look for that healing, but if he never does should I be disappointed? Is my son any worse off for not being healed if it’s God’s will? Can I not even enjoy him because he isn’t “fixed” yet? A lot of soul searching and of course I have come to realize that of course I can love him, just the way God made him! He doesn’t have to stack up perfectly like other average children, he’s special just the way he is. I mean, even Shadrach, Meschach and Abendigo didn’t know if they would live or die, most assuredly thought they would perish, but they weren’t worried. They said whether God rescued them or not God is still faithful and they trusted God’s judgement, literally unto death. And yes, he did save them, but he doesn’t always. And it shouldn’t change the outcome of our thoughts about God or ourselves either. Thank you for challenging me.

And to you Mr. Sewell, always feeling like I am sinning because of how I get, feel and the lack of things I should be doing usually intensify my problems. I have been prayed for over depression and lack of confidence in the fact that God could still love me in spite of me, as a Christian. But, always, the person praying says specific things that only God would know to tell me that he’s ok with the way I am and not to worry and he loves me, stop worrying. It was usually an instant relief and then the pressure would mount up again, what if they weren’t speaking from God and he is really upset at me? Why can’t I make myself do the things I need and want to do? I just can’t can’t stack up right, I’m always crooked! Then of course frustration, shame, anger, resentment towards myself and eventually depression would set back in. It’s a nasty cycle. But, yes, I know in moments of clarity that only God could have told me through a complete stranger what he did. Growing up with a dad that clearly has an anxiety disorder but refused help due to afraid of being labeled and side effects has not helped my view of medicine either. I try to remind myself what you both have said, medicine is not evil, doesn’t have to be forever and doesn’t make me less of a person if I choose to try it. Thank you for your challenging thoughts.

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Joe Sewell December 29, 2012 at 5:18 pm

I’m glad I could help, Mary. I’m going through a bit of a battle in the same area myself right now, again. The enemy of God knows how to torment us.

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Analou December 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

Hello Mr. Wellman and to everyone. Just spent time reading the article and the messages here. First of all, credit to everyone who shared their story as well as those who gave their advice.

For the past two weeks or so, I haven’t had a proper sleep. I feel like a walking dead person. It started when my ex bf split up with me just before our supposed flight together to my country. I was devastated as it’s Christmas time plus I dont feel any support from my family. I’ve been through deprression and the thought of committing suicide was always present in my mind. In fact, I did loads of research how to formulate the right cocktail of pills to end my life. I was very close to doing it and even if I am a Christian, somehow I felt i lost my faith and started questioning God and blaming Him.

About two days ago I just made a conscious decision to forget about suicide and instead get up and build that relationship with the Lord again. I know it’s easier said than done and with all honesty,I am still hurting and struggling to move forward. At the moment I need friends even virtual to encourage, support and PRAY for me as I continue to walk with the Lord for recovery and asking forgiveness.

I think I need constant support thats why I’ve been searching online for Christian support groups where I can join and talk to people who can help me and pray for me. I hope anyone can suggest anything. Lastly please pray for me as I am still struggling but at least not suicidal thinking anymore, I just want to move forward with the Lord.

Thank you.

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Jack Wellman December 30, 2012 at 9:21 pm

Hello Analou. I am so glad this article could help you some. Even Joe (the above comment) and myself have struggled with depression and it is a hard road to travel and a dark cloud to get out of under. I see you are moving forward and I am encouraged by your persistence and your faith in God. Do you have a church home? There are many prayer supporters that can lift you up and even leave the prayer request as “unspoken needs.” I believe there are many Christian online support groups and they have forums where members can openly discuss their own issues and this helps to see that you are not alone and we love that you found this article and I am encouraged by your not giving up. I pray God helps you in this because sometimes God is our last option and our only real source for help but He uses others to be the hands and feet and voice of Jesus.

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glenda January 15, 2013 at 9:45 pm

hello – i found this site by asking the question can i kill myself and still go to heaven – like maybe after takin alot of pills asking for forgiveness before drifting off – my husband of 22 years left me tonight – i am disabled and can not work but not yet getting my disability so i have no means to support myself – so i no nothing else to do – i cant work and im not drawung anythiung – my husband is addicted to pills and an alcoholic and yes my life has been hard but he did take care of me and love me as i thought for me – im over wieght and not pretty at all so i dont see me getting anyone else so alone and unable to take care of myself i dont see any other way out

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Jack Wellman January 16, 2013 at 11:00 am

Hello Glenda. What a hard place you are in right now. These are the times that we can show that our God is Mighty to save. I pray in Jesus’ name that He provides for you and gives you His peace that you are able to endure in His strength what we can not do on our own. Have you spoken with your pastor? I feel so helpless other than to go to my face, hands, & knees for your Glenda in your behalf.

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Amber January 18, 2013 at 5:16 pm

I’ve struggled with depression suicidal thoughts since 8 th grade and used to cut myself in 9th grade beer talk to anyone about how I’ve felt until 11 th grade . I have been talking more and more openly with my group leaders from church and it has helped some but still struggle onand off with it . I’m 22 years old and having another long hard time with it . I’ve come close to wanting to commit suicide but never would ur don’t want to hurt my family or friends an also even if I could make it look like it was an accident I still fear hell if I did

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Diana February 19, 2013 at 6:20 pm

Hello. There is help from depression. If you would like me to share my story of how I overcame depression and how you can too, you may email me on dianaberkaliyeva@gmail.com.
I know this may not sound much to a depressed person right now but our Father in heaven can truly heal our hearts and minds… (I speak from experience :) )

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Brandon March 9, 2013 at 10:01 am

How is a person to know what to fight for ? Where is this “will to live” people speak of? The only thing i care about is ending everythig at least I could not fail anymore, no more opportunities to screw up , no more ability to dissappoint anyone . Yet all of that said I have nothing left no care no will, but my leukemia bearing mother is the only conscience and spiritual condemnaton that keeps me suffering on affraid to devastate her but same time i am a grown man with zero to show of it and still with that said absolutely no nor want to take another breath . Why I am here today ihave no clue except to endure this hell most call “life” . From my personal experience “life” is worse than prison at least there you cannot continue to ruin Everthing

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Lila March 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm

Hi Brandon. Although I don’t know you, I can somewhat relate to how you feel. I’ve been where it sounds like you are. One thing that I’ve come to learn is that the enemy (which is satan himself) isn’t rooting for you to win, he is against you. The Bible says, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” -1 Peter 5:8 KJV

The good news however, is that Jesus Christ is FULLY able to bring you OUT of the state that you are in. First you MUST surrender to Him. In the Bible Jesus said, “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.” -Matthew 11:28-29 KJV.

Brandon you don’t have a problem that isn’t common to what the next person may have or might be currently dealing with. There is a purpose for your life. You woke up this morning for a reason. You are still here today for a REASON. Give your life to Christ and let Him SAVE you. Jesus is standing at the door waiting for you.

” ..if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
-Romans 10:9-10 KJV

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Jack Wellman March 9, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Brandon, Lila is so right. Imagine that you had only one child. You knew that you would have to have your son or daughter die to ensure that others would live. These other people would treat your only child in an unusually cruel manner. They would torture them, spit on them, pull their hair out, beat them, whip them, scorn them, ridicule them, laugh at them, drive nails through their hands and feet, and let them die by an illegal trial, testified by false witnesses, and be completely innocent of ever having done anything at all. Then you can only imagine – slightly – what the Father had to endure. We know that Jesus suffered the most agonizing death of any human that has ever lived (historically speaking this is a fact), yet He thought of the joy that was set before Him (and you too!). We have to live with the end in mind…the eternal joy we will have. Is your dear mother a Christian? You would certainly break her heart and perhaps cause her to also give up and die. Many people have died of heartache and lonliness. Have you spoken with your pastor over this? Are there not friends you can make or have in the church or do you even attend a church at all? Living the Christian life outside of the fellowship of the saints will make it a hard, hard road for you are more suseptible to spiritual attacks from the enemy. I pray you find an answer soon and surely it is in Christ.

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Brandon March 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm

Yes my pastor and friends say its a testing period a dry season…. If so this is the longest season in history. I do believe …. Or use to, idk anymore. This is me…… An engine will only run as long as there is fuel in the tank, if no fuel gets put back in eventually the engine stops running. I have seen miracles and wonders, helped cast out demons, gone to spiritual/physical battles in other countries in his name. From my knowledge I went and went and went w/o any refill and then the joy left so instead of being a hypocrite I left the minjstry, but bottom line you have to give something to get it. Yes he gave more than most can fathem yet I would rather die brutally by those who hate me than to live with this torment and hell. And yes my mother is a devout christian the strongest I know. Thank you for your replies

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Joe Sewell March 24, 2013 at 5:17 pm

What you describe sounds very similar to something that is found on page 127 of Anne Jackson’s book, Permission to Speak Freely. It reads:

I am not afraid to die
I am afraid to live
I am afraid to fail
In my God-ordained responsibilities.
God, are You there to heal the damage?

Someone once asked me how I can relate to that. I wrote it. I wrote it during a very rough time in my life in which I had believed a false teacher who had me believing that, unless I did something that scared me more than death, I would be willfully disobeying God. This teacher, who had been my pastor, completely stole all hope of life in Christ from me. This happened in 2007, and I’m still recovering from it.

One thing I’ve had to understand is that God does love you and me no matter what happens. Our ultimate goal, though, must be to give glory to God, not to ourselves. Now, you and I feel like we fail Him in that constantly. Perhaps we do. His grace, though, remains sufficient.

Your notes about miracles and the like have me thinking, though, that you feel you have failed God as well, because all those signs, wonders, and gifts are gone. Consider This: they aren’t God, nor were they ever proof of your worthiness. So many get so caught up in signs and wonders, miracles and healings, that they forget that none of those are God’s true purpose. They’re just fringe benefits. Sickness doesn’t mean sin (as the man born blind was told by Jesus Himself), and even Satan can replicate the signs and wonders, just as he did through the wizards of Pharaoh when Moses demonstrated the first few Egyptian plagues. If you’ve been depending on them for proof of God’s favor, you need to stop and simply trust Him that nothing will separate you from His love (Romans 8:31-39).

I’m no fan of the “season” analogy, either, because seasons come and go with a regular and predictable timing. You and I both, though, are in a time in which we need to stop trusting in our previous crutches and start trusting what God says, whether we feel like it or not, whether we think it’s “godly” or not.

Let me also add that your mother needs you right now, just as my mother did when I first seriously considered suicide at the age of 10. The details are different, but knowing that she needed me is what kept me from pulling the trigger at a time when, technically, I would’ve wound up in Hell had I succeeded, as I rejected the thought of the God that I had heard about at that time. No, it’s not easy, it’s not comfortable, and your ability to cope is probably as drained as mine was and is. All I can do there is pray for you, and ask that you pray for me as well.

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Brandon March 24, 2013 at 7:32 pm

You are very in depth there….and right on the nail. No I have never been much for the wonders and such even outside of spirituality its the actions that go unseen and unnoticed that matter. I have been (even in my strongest in Him times) waiting to hear him any way I can. Ever since I was a kid ppl have told me I have a great future in God and my calling is beyond belief…last month I was able to go encounter david hogan in dallas tx and ppl i have never met before in my life told me the exact word for word what I have heard before about my calling. Sure I should focus and be grateful that I am getting some sort of word yet I am puzzled and questioning if it is God and as many nights spent on my knees asking for guidance ans what it is I am to do and so on and so on. Never myself heard from him and once again I am in a quiet waiting period and still nothing except vague words from random ppl i have never met. As far as suicide goes, my first attempt was age 13 since then many cartri s have missfired, ropes have broken without explaination, tried overdosing only to be hugging a toilet…. All of that and I am still stuck in this hell without direction or motivation to find it and still no word from God. Yes drained to the point of no will to live, but to no avail I am just here with dwindling trust and faith. However those are very inspirational words thank you very much for your time and effort, your relating situation blessed me . Once again thank you to all who have responded your words have hit me

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Jack Wellman March 24, 2013 at 9:06 pm

Brandon….you can hear a word from God and it is in the Word of God, the Bible. God still speaks to us today…but it is in His Word.

Please, right now fall on your knees and put all of your trust in Jesus and ask for His divine power to reject these thoughts of hopelessness and purposelessness.

Call your pastor immediately. Do you have a pastor? Do you attend a Bible-believing church? If not, find one now. Ask them to pray over you to receive the Holy Spirit and you will be saved. I can only pray for you but you must fall on your face before God and ask Him to intervene and put your trust in Christ. Don’t wait another minute. If you don’t have a church home, then you are at risk to the Enemy the Devil and his fallen angels, demons for spiritual attacks.

No Christian should go it alone in their life without the Body of Christ, the church, for Jesus is the Head of the church, the Chief Cornerstone and the Great Shepherd of the sheep. If you are outside of the flock, beware for the Devil is like a roaring lion roaming around seeking whom he might devour. You must seek help from other Christians, otherwise you are on your own and that is a fearful thing.

Do you have any medical insurance? Does the company you work for have some assistance? Did you read the entire article? This article offers practical steps. It could be a simple brain chemistry imbalance being the reason you are going thru this. As a former Mental Health Case Manager, medicine can make all the difference.

For more on feelings of hopelessness, you must turn to God. He will not turn you away if you are seeking His face, His divine power, His inspired Word (where He speaks to you thru the Bible), pray often, talk to a pastor, seek other Christians to pray for you.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/hope-in-god-in-hopeless-times/

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Trevor M May 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm

Brandon,
I, for a long time, waited for God to come to me in the way that you are referring to. From what I have learned throughout my life, it is necessary to take on the Holy Spirit in order to “hear” God when He speaks to us. The only way I have been taught to receive the Holy Spirit is through Baptism, although I am non-denominational. I feel as though Christ would not want us to be divided, but there are too many people in the world to believe the very pinpoint exact same thing from beginning to end. However, before we receive the Holy Spirit, people will tell of the little voices in their head trying to convince them to do good and bad deeds. This to me is what we call conscious, a moral compass if you will, that guides us by our own knowledge of good and evil. Once you have received the Baptism, you show God your faith and He rewards you greatly. We have been taught that hearing voices, and guidance from an unseen God, makes us crazy or religious nuts. God speaks to us as loudly or as quietly as deemed necessary, but first you must be in harmony with your belief that He is there with you. I should take more time to hear and speak with Him, but the world finds ways to distract us, or deter us, from doing what we know we should. God wants you to run your race to the very end, and never wants you to yield or quit. Clear your mind and your heart, seek help if needed, for God uses others in ways you can’t even begin to imagine for our needs. God Bless you and I hope this message finds you well, or doing better at the very least. Remember, the vague words you have heard may very well be the words God is speaking to you, He is simply using others to reach to ensure you are not physically alone. God loves you and so do I.

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Joe Sewell June 15, 2013 at 6:51 pm

The Holy Spirit is within you at the time of salvation. You need no separate “baptism” in either water or spirit to receive Him. Yes, Jesus received the Holy Spirit at His baptism, but He had not ascended into Heaven, so the Spirit did not come upon all believers as He does now. Check out http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/benefits-of-salvation/ http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/who-or-what-is-the-holy-spirit-a-bible-study/ http://www.whatchristianwanttoknow.com/hope-in-god-in-hopeless-times/ and http://gotquestions.org/receive-Holy-Spirit.html for some further insight into this.

His Spirit will guide you, verbally or non, throughout your entire life in Christ. It’s still up to you to follow His guidance or not.

There will also be other voices, literally and figuratively, that will try to lead you other ways. That’s spiritual warfare, and that, too, is covered in numerous articles here. Our depression, whether it be chemical, spiritual, or something else, will also try to lead us in diverse directions at times. We need spiritual discernment, which also comes from the Holy Spirit, to determine the source and validity of all those different voices.

rachel May 23, 2013 at 11:27 pm

Dear Sir,

I learnt so much and its really encouraging to read the list of names from the bible who went through depression but got over it.I love Jesus and I am striving to run the good race. The past three years have been tough for me in all aspects. Yet He takes me through and I have this amazing peace within me though I may look like a fool to others.

My dad is not a believer and I live with my parents.He is sunk into a depression coz of his business as its not running well at the moment, and He is worried about me… He is very stubborn, proud and haughty at times…

Can you plz tell me how can I help him out…we pray for his salvation everyday….

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Jack Wellman May 24, 2013 at 10:01 am

Hello Rachel. I am so glad you care about your dad’s salvation. You are already doing all that you can do and that is to pray for him to have him see the need for a Savior. We have an article that addresses the very thing you are seeking to know about…that is, how to witness to your family. Sometimes deep, dark depression can make a person broken and only when a person reaches the bottom can they only look up and that is, hopefully, to God. For more on witnessing to family, please check out this article at the link in this post.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-to-share-the-gospel-with-family/

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Joseph Dsouza June 2, 2013 at 11:08 pm

if we commit suiside where we will go to hell or to heaven

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Jack Wellman June 3, 2013 at 11:28 am

Hello Joseph. I can not answer that question for only God knows who is saved and who is not. Why take the chance. No one should put a period where God intends a comma. If you are thinking of this, talk to your pastor today. As a pastor, I would come over to speak with you immediately. Call him. Get help.

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Brandi June 17, 2013 at 11:22 am

I have been searching for a bible study to help me with my depression and I cannot seem to find one. I have always found comfort in Psalms and thought of just reading it through and memorizing verses that speak louder than the rest. My husband has been unemployed for 10 months and we have 3 small children. While my husband believes in God, he isn’t interested in a relationship with God since he lost his father at a very young age and he blames God. I’ve been trying to bring my husband closer to the Lord, but in my own depression, it is a difficult task. When we got married, we agreed that my husband would work and I would stay home with our children and homeschool them as this is where the Lord has led our family. We both come from Christian families but either side is having a hard time helping us with bills because they see me staying home and doing what the Lord has called me to do as me being lazy and refusing to get a job. So I don’t have a lot of encouragement. And my parents always taught me that it is not alright to be depressed and seek professional counsel. I am slowly finding that this is not the case. This article helped me see that sometimes people get depressed and it is okay seek help. Thank you for helping me see that it’s okay to ask for help and that no matter how the help comes, Jesus is still waiting and wanting to help me through this and that it is okay to seek help. I will be reading through Psalms for encouragement from my Lord and Savior and know that He will see me through this hard time.

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Jack Wellman June 17, 2013 at 11:26 am

Hello Brandi. I am glad I could be at least of some service. I suffer from depression too as does one of our finest writers. Even what some believe is the greatest preacher of all time, Charles Spurgeon, suffered greatly from depression and we know it has medical reasons and is not a character or moral weakness. In fact, many of the greatest men in the Bible suffered from this too like Moses, Jeremiah, Job, and many others.

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Jim September 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Jack,
I guess you are keeping up with this article. I hope so.
Jack, I am an Evangelical Christain. I have kown the Lord for over 50 years. I have been hit with depression several times and this time it’s off the wall. I am seeing my Dr. and she gave me some anxiety pills to take.
I have a story to tell you.
I am builder self employed and my wife is a nurse working the night shift.
The first time I had depression started in 2005, this is when we lost 4 relatives in 2.5 years… i also had sudden loss of hearing in one ear. I saw the Dr. and I was over that in months.
In 2010 I hit another depression. We had sewage backup, then a flooded basement followed up by a tornado that ripped through our yard and touched our home. I called the insurance company and made 2 claims within a 3 week period. My son was getting married and I worked non stop to get the basement ready for the wedding because of my wifes sisters coming in to stay with us. At the end of the year, a client did not pay me for extras. Again, I saw my Dr. and got some pills to help me.
Now, July of this year… I received a phone call from a homeowner that i have been working for for 25 years. I built a detached sun porch for him in a gated community. The owner asked me to draw it up and build it. He was on the “board” in the club at the time. He got permission from the club to build this detached porch.
Eleven years have passed since I built this porch. This homeowner gets into a fight with his neighbor in another court, this neighbor calls the village because a permit was never issued. He is now, 11 years later, blaming me for not securing a permit. 11 years ago we talked about obtaining a permit and because it was a gated community, he got the clubs permission, we built it.
Well, i just found out that it is 4′ over the lot line. He is blaming me. The village told me as well as the homeowner that the responsibility is on the homeowner to get a permit.
I have never experienced depression like this. I have lost almost 20 pounds and I am not a big guy.
I have thought about our finances and I am trembeling. This homeowner has more wealth than you could imagine.
I almost called it “quits” a week or two ago. Yes, as in jumping off a building, taking pills… I did see my dr twice in a three week period.
I talked to my lawyer and he has no clue as to what this homeowner can come up with against me. I can’t put my wife through a financial struggle…
I am crushed and defeated. This economy is hard as it is. My wife is woking 50-60 hours/week on the night shift to help with the bills. I feel as if I am a millstone around her neck.
I am supposed to see the zoning department tomorrow and I know that a variance is impossible. I am David facing a Goliath.
I have said that I am worth more dead than I am alive… I am a Christian. i believe that Jesus is my Lord and Savior. I know I will be with Him someday… my problem is I want it sooner than later. My health is failing me, it really is. This depression is consuming me.
Jim

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Jack Wellman September 18, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Yes, Jim, I am still keeping up on this and all of my articles as time allows me sir. These are things where I feel totally helpless in trying to understand the ways of God by my tiny, finite brain compared to what God is and being infinite. What a terrible set of circumstances you have had and much like what Job must have experienced.
Did you know that plants, including trees, grow faster than at any time when storms are hitting them? That means when rain, heavy winds, hail, and such are hitting them that they experience their most rapid growth. I believe it is the same with us.

1 Peter 1:6-7 says “though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” Did you get that? We are being refined like gold!

James says in 5:11 “As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.” God doubled what Job had originally. And in James 1:2-3 Count it all joy, my brothers,[b] when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness.”

I pray this helps but you actually answered your own question perfectly! Yes, our suffering is for the glory of God. God refines us in our suffering and graciously explains why: “See, I have refined you, though not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this” (Isaiah 48:10). For emphasis, God repeats this reason.

If you don’t understand that the universe is about God and his glory—and that whatever exalts God’s glory also works for your ultimate good—then you will misunderstand this passage and countless others. Some consider God egotistical or cruel to test us for his sake. But the testing he does for his sake accrues to our eternal benefit.

Your situation reminds me of Job’s which if you read this link has his story and perhaps some reasons why we suffer. God never intends to put a period where He intends it to be a comma. I know that you are going to really deeply and forever hurt those you leave behind…your wife, your children if you have any, your parents, your friends….and so many will never get this hurt out of their hearts. I beg you to reconsider Jim. I will pray for you even though it seems I can do little else. At the bottom is the story of Job and I pray you can find some biblical relief in it sir.

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/job-bible-story-summary-with-lesson/

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Esther Valerie November 7, 2013 at 8:25 am

Isaiah 12:1 – And in that day thou shalt say, O Lord, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me (KJV)
A couple of years ago, many were the times when I would comfortably scroll through the requests posted on the Daily PrayerLine and wonder at the trials people faced each day. Sickness, separation, failure, death, financial problems always plagued battered Christian hearts.

A few of these people had almost lost faith. Sometimes, in my ignorance, I would feel excessively sorry for these hearts, and almost question Christ, even His very promise: “If two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven.” (Matthew 18:19 NIV)

Never did I think that, months later, I too would be in such a situation, posting a request, more in desperation than in faith that anyone could help me. Often would I say, “Lord, Thou art angry with me,” for I too, like those of us who in our Christian childhood and unwillingness to be patient and trust our God, was quick to label Him as angry with us.

But, oh, how the Lord comforted me! I experienced His healing grace and love through the very same readers who today are my dearest agents of His eternal love for me, and truly faithful to the promise that stands above all posted requests. Jesus did for me in heaven more than I desired as He touched me. He comforted me, and that day when I could praise Him did come.

I bless our God today, for I look at all requests with a different view of God. I know that today’s prayer of desperation and time of need is tomorrow’s day of thanksgiving to a good God who sees us to the other side. Today’s cries are but the beginning of the process that ends with love, peace, hope, and rest through the entire experience, when we once felt that God was angry with us and had abandoned us.

Prayer: Dear and faithful God, thank You for this beautiful thought that with You our lives — in whatever state they be in today — are always destined to end with hope and life and healing grace that comes from a loving heart. Thank You for the angels You send in the form of your devoted children who stand with us and pray. Thank You most of all that time and time again You prove Your faithfulness as You keep Your promise never to leave us. May we too touch others who are hurting, so that they may know how real You are, as the gentlest Comforter who carries us through our pain. Through Jesus Christ our Lord we pray. Amen.

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Jack Wellman November 7, 2013 at 8:35 am

Beautiful…just beautiful and a glory to God’s comfort in all of our trials. Thank you.

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Ryan November 25, 2013 at 8:56 pm

I’m depressed, discouraged, frustrated, it’s not good. The really bad part is that I do know God and I have studied the Bible. I have to ask God why? Everything goes back to God. Why did He make a miserable me? Why did He make satan? God knows the future. God knew that Adam would sin. God knew when He was making Adam that Adam would sin. God knew that lucifer would rebel against God. God knew this when he made lucifer that this would happen. So I have to ask why? Why did God make people and then regret making us in Genesis? Why am I this way? I don’t want to be a sinner but I am. I hate me! I don’t want to live any more. I have let myself down and I can’t fix things. I have tried and tried. It just keeps getting worse! I have started blaming God. I pray and ask Him to unmake me. I have begged and pleaded with Him in tears and in desperation and cried out for help only to continue to get the silent treatment. I wish I was never born. Why can’t we as people be made neutral instead of being made with a strong tendency to sin? God hates sin. I hate sin. I sin. I have asked God to remove my sinfullness and to make me content. Several times. Nothing happened. I just don’t understand it. Am I making any sense? Oh well blame satan and this fallen world or because Adam sinned we all have an old sin nature. Why? Through satan in hell! What if satan was not so cleaver? Who made satan cleaver? When God made satan God knew what was going to happen. So I have to ask why. I didn’t ask to be born. I am forced to live on this earth even though I don’t want to. What choice do I have? And free will. God gave us free will. I don’t understand this at all! People say that God did not want robots so He gave us free will. Is it really free will? On a one to ten, ten being big sinner and one being not a sinner at all, what are all humans put at? For me I feel like a 9 or a 10. I wish I was a one. So I’m made a sinner but I’m expected not to live as a sinner. God even goes so far as to tell us to be perfect in the the last sentence if Mathew chapter 5. Back to the free will. We have to accept Jesus or burn in hell for eternity. Is that free will? We’re made sinners, sin separates us from God, we have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God, we have free will to choose to accept or reject Jesus but if you reject Jesus you burn in hell for eternity! So here’s my problem. I have accepted Jesus into my heart. I am a sinner. I hate sin and myself but I keep on sinning. I blame God my creator because I can’t fix me. I can’t understand all of this? I just want to not exist. I deserve hell but I wish I was never born! God can do anything. Please God unmake me. I can’t take this living and sinning and confusion and depression and living a life that continues to get worse and worse. I have prayed and prayed and took authority and quoted scriptures and kicked and screamed and cried and took the Lords name in vain and tried everything that I can possibly think of to get ugly me out of this awful mess that I am in! Nothing works. People say that God does not work by formulas because people would sell it. Or something like that. If there was a formula I would use it right now. If praying on my knees for an hour or ten hours i would do it. If saying praise The Lord a thousand times i would do it. I just want out of my skin! Stop this ride i want off. Please just make it all go away. I’m sorry for being a terrible sinful son now please just let me die. Pleased take me so I don’t have to myself. All i know anymore is pain and sadness. I see no light at the end. I have nothing to look forward to in this world. It just continues to get worse and worse. I wish prayer worked for me. I wish life made sense. I wish relationships weren’t so difficult. I wish I wish I wish. Just let me pass. Please. In tears i write these things again. What I wouldn’t for peace of mind. But I would trade my peace of mind to just not exist. No memory. No heaven. No hell. I’m sorry God for feeling this way. I have tried to make things better.

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Jack Wellman November 26, 2013 at 6:51 pm

Thank you Ryan. A great way to get out of this dark night of the soul is to serve others and to help others. I don’t know what God knew that Lucifer would cause the fall of mankind but just because I don’t know why doesn’t mean God doesn’t have a purpose. Go serve in a nursing home, visit the sick in the hospital, this helps get your eyes off of self.

Please, right now fall on your knees and put all of your trust in Jesus and ask for His divine power to reject these thoughts of hopelessness and purposelessness.

Call your pastor immediately. Do you have a pastor? Do you attend a Bible-believing church? If not, find one now. Ask them to pray over you to receive the Holy Spirit and you will be saved. I can only pray for you but you must fall on your face before God and ask Him to intervene and put your trust in Christ. Don’t wait another minute. If you don’t have a church home, then you are at risk to the Enemy the Devil and his fallen angels, demons for spiritual attacks.

No Christian should go it alone in their life without the Body of Christ, the church, for Jesus is the Head of the church, the Chief Cornerstone and the Great Shepherd of the sheep. If you are outside of the flock, beware for the Devil is like a roaring lion roaming around seeking whom he might devour. You must seek help from other Christians, otherwise you are on your own and that is a fearful thing.

Do you have any medical insurance? Does the company you work for have some assistance? Did you read the entire article? This article offers practical steps. It could be a simple brain chemistry imbalance being the reason you are going thru this. As a former Mental Health Case Manager, medicine can make all the difference.

For more on feelings of hopelessness, you must turn to God. He will not turn you away if you are seeking His face, His divine power, His inspired Word (where He speaks to you thru the Bible), pray often, talk to a pastor, seek other Christians to pray for you.

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Joe Sewell November 26, 2013 at 8:35 pm

Ryan, what you say here is precisely what I go through on a too-regular basis. I’ve had plenty of times when I’ve wished I had never existed, so that I wouldn’t do what I had just done.

Many of your questions about free will have been debated for centuries. The problem there is that we cannot see time and space as God does. For some reason He chose to give us what appears to be free will, and the responsibility that goes along with it, knowing full well the consequences.

One important point, though, is that He made YOU and me knowing full well what we would do! He made me, a sinner just like you, knowing the stupid things I’d do. More importantly, HE DIED FOR ME ANYHOW! Jesus still went to the cross, knowing fully what He was dying for.

Let me suggest you read John 3:1-21 (yes, the entire thing) and Romans chapter 8 in a translation you’re unfamiliar with. The New Living Translation or the NET Bible are both good possibilities, and both are available for free through Bible Gateway and YouVersion. I suggest an unfamiliar translation so your mind won’t just go through them like they were familiar. Get into the story. Read it without verse markings, if you can. You’ll find that Jesus came into the world to save, not to condemn, even though we were still sinners!

One thing that too many “holiness” churches teach is that, since God cannot look at sin, then we disconnect from God every time we sin. That’s not correct! If that were the case, then God couldn’t have looked upon Christ Himself, on the cross, becoming our sin. How can God not look upon Himself? That’s another question we won’t have an answer to here on earth. Christ, though, is sitting at the right hand of the Father right now!

The mistake that many make is that they do not distinguish between the condition of sin, the acts of sins, and the beloved sinners who commit those acts of sins due to their condition of sin. The Bible says that God cannot look upon sin. It DOESN’T say, though, that He cannot look upon *sinners!* In fact, if you look at Habakkuk 1:13, where the original statement occurs, and look at various translations in context, you’ll find that it really says that God cannot look *favorably* on sin. It doesn’t say that a single sin suddenly separates us and cloaks us from God. Romans 8 tells us that NOTHING can separate us from His love!

We will never be sinless as long as we are in this world. Even Paul continued to struggle with it. Peter messed up after Pentecost, after being forgiven of his 3 denials of knowing Christ. The book of Hebrews talks about the great Old Testament men of faith, though they continued to sin.

GOD STILL LOVES YOU, RYAN, JUST AS HE LOVES ME! No matter what mistakes we make, no matter how often we make them, God still loves us. If He didn’t, He most certainly wouldn’t have made us at all. I know, the feelings of depression won’t help that. We’ll both still feel this way again and again. Trust God, though, that He will see you through, and that, somehow, we’ll wind up happy in Heaven one day, no matter how we feel, no matter what lies the deceiver throws at us. We may not feel like we have the strength to do what’s right, but He has promised us the strength to endure, even though it’s painful, until the end, and He has promised to stick with us no matter what.

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Jack Wellman November 26, 2013 at 9:16 pm

Joe, that is about as biblically solid and tender-hearted a response that I could have ever imagined and I thank God for your wisdom my friend. You said it so much better than I could have ever in a lifetime. I also suffer from depression and from time to time it comes in waves that I can not seem to escape from. Even recently I felt so despondent due to such a work load, school, church, family, and my writing assignments. I have always found from experience that when we start to serve others and help those who are less fortunate, my eyes begin to get off of me and onto others. When my problems are big, my God is small, but when my God is big, my problems are small. It is my choice. I fail but then I try to help others….nursing home visits, help with missions, visit the shut-ins, and share the gospel…and then, I discover that I am more content. I believe we all live in a tent; one tent is one of contentment…the other tent is in discontentment. I have to choose contentment because it is hard to be depressed when you are thankful and worshiping God. Hard to do but effective. So Ryan, listen to Joe. He knows and I truly do thank God for him.

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collins December 16, 2013 at 8:22 pm

plese pray for me … i’ve been so depressed. i can hardly motivate myself to do anything now for several weeks … i manage to get to work but then straight back home to sit, watch tv, sleep and do it over again tomorrow … i manage church services a three times a week and thats about it … it started with the end of a 2 yr relationship i believed was headed for marriage soon … but thats over and she’s moved on … i’m a total wreck .. i pray constantly to follow him and to find peace and happiness again with him and to get back to being productive and stuff, constantly reading scriptures in my bible, and trying not to focus on the past but i just constantly second guess and think of all the i should have, could have stuff that might have made things work out differently … please pray for me to be happy and content again, to be myself again …
thank you,
collins

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Dan December 22, 2013 at 10:41 am

Is anyone really there?

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Jack Wellman December 22, 2013 at 1:03 pm

Hello Dan…yes, there is someone here. Are you going thru depression currently? If so, you are not alone for so did David, Paul, Jeremiah, Moses, Elijah, Job…and many heroes of the faith.

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Dan December 22, 2013 at 7:27 pm

Yes I am Pastor Jack. I am Getting Better. I don’t know why these overtake me. I have had this problem on and off for 40 years now. I started taking meds for it about 15 years ago and they do help.

I am a Christian and that is a blessing. I have a good church family and a good pastor I talk to. I just get lonesome for people who understand this problem. I have read everything on your site here and thank God for you and you labor of love. I copied Joes last writing and keep it in my Bible. God bless him as well. Thank you both.

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Jack Wellman December 22, 2013 at 7:41 pm

Joe Sewell is a good and trusted man of God who has great insight. The ones who have the greatest insight in things like this have great insight because they have been “in” to “sight” this and those are the most valuable ones who I greatly respect. I too deal with depression from time to time and it is ever waiting by my bedside…but Joe’s notes and being in your Bible is a great one-two punch to knock out this demon of the mind that is depression. Thanks Dan…and thanks too Joe.

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Joe Sewell January 7, 2014 at 11:26 am

You and Jack both honor me. I can only give the Holy Spirit the credit for anything good I write, especially when I’m going through tons of stress myself (which is too frequent lately).

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Jack Wellman January 7, 2014 at 11:33 am

True humility rears its beautiful head again Joe. You so provide strong evidence to me that you are walking with God. We all are indebted to and thank God for you brother.

collins December 29, 2013 at 9:57 pm

i have been experiencing and going thru so much depression the past couple of months due to changes in the relationships in my life that i could hardly function. i had break downs, no motivation, could hardly function day to day, tears and more tears, and even considered ending it all a few times, but knew that wasn’t the answer. i’m finally feeling i’m on the downhill side now and getting better, but its still so hard at times.

my advice for anyone experiencing depression … just keep your faith, pray ALL the time, trust in his plan, and you might try listening to this sermon … it has helped me, just wish i had found it sooner .
the link below is a sermon by david jeremiah titled – “depression : the fear of a mental breakdown”

it starts with a short ‘video story’ then a couple of opening songs of a church service .. and then the sermon .. really really good about dealing with depression, its’ causes, and god’s hand in everything and his plans …

http://www.davidjeremiah.org/site/television_player.aspx?id=201

i hope this is of help to anyone who needs it,
collins

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Jack Wellman December 29, 2013 at 10:08 pm

Thank you Collins. You are right to help others but this great teacher, Dr. David Jeremiah. He is indeed a true resource indeed. I love this man’s teachings and am glad you are here to offer it to help others Collins. May God richly bless you and reward you for caring for others.

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Dan December 30, 2013 at 9:15 pm

I watched this DVD Collins has spoke of. Very good. Thank you brother.

1Jn 3:20 Whenever our hearts in [tormenting] self-accusation make us feel guilty and condemn us. [For we are in God's hands.] For He is above and greater than our consciences (our hearts), and He knows (perceives and understands) everything [nothing is hidden from Him]. AMP

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Jack Wellman December 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm

I agree Dan…this man is about as solid of a Bible teacher, pastor, and author as there is. That is the pastor who heads the seminary I used to attend for a masters degree…Southern California Seminary.

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Dan January 29, 2014 at 10:57 am

Hi Jack.
Have made some progress and doing much better. I went to the DR. and got my meds increased. Still have a ways to go but am determined to fight on. God is so good. Hope you are doing well.

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Jack Wellman January 29, 2014 at 10:58 am

I am so encouraged my brother by this. I thank God that you went to get help. Please allow me to pray for you brother. May God richly bless you Dan.

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Dan March 14, 2014 at 10:03 pm

Hello Jack. Hope you are doing well. I am much better now. Not there yet and maybe never will be till I am with Jesus. But I am encouraged. They upped the meds and they are really taking affect now. Thank God.

I have been through this so many times you would think I have it down. But… I am still learning to trust Him. Here are some verses for folks who wonder why we go through this.

Psa 119:67 Before I was afflicted I went astray, But now I keep Your word.

Psa 119:71 It is good for me that I have been afflicted, That I may learn Your statutes.

Heb 12:5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: “MY SON, DO NOT DESPISE THE CHASTENING OF THE LORD, NOR BE DISCOURAGED WHEN YOU ARE REBUKED BY HIM;
Heb 12:6 FOR WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE CHASTENS, AND SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES.”
Heb 12:7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?
Heb 12:8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?
Heb 12:10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.
Heb 12:11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Heb 12:12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,
Heb 12:13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,
Jas 1:3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
Jas 1:4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.

Psa 103:7 He revealed His character to Moses and His deeds to the people of Israel.
Psa 103:8 The LORD is compassionate and merciful, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love.
Psa 103:9 He will not constantly accuse us, nor remain angry forever.
Psa 103:10 He does not punish us for all our sins; He does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve.
Psa 103:11 For His unfailing love toward those who fear Him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth.
Psa 103:12 He has removed our sins as far from us as the east is from the west.
Psa 103:13 The LORD is like a father to His children, tender and compassionate to those who fear Him.
Psa 103:14 For He knows how weak we are; He remembers we are only dust.
Psa 103:15 Our days on earth are like grass; like wildflowers, we bloom and die.
Psa 103:16 The wind blows, and we are gone—as though we had never been here.
Psa 103:17 But the love of the LORD remains forever with those who fear Him. His salvation extends to the children’s children

God deals with us as a father deals with a son. He loves us so much. And He is so faithful. None of these are pat answers for anyone. But this I know, God knows what he is doing.

God bless you Jack.

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Jack Wellman March 14, 2014 at 10:08 pm

Amen my friend…these are rich in healing and strong in purpose Dan. Thank you so much my brother and I thank God for you sir. I remember hearing scientists or maybe it was biologists say that plants grow most rapidly during times of storm and wind…and I think this is the same principle for believers. Like the dross being burnt off, we are being more and more purified by trials. It is my understanding that when they refine gold, it is heated over and over again until all the dross has been removed. How do they know when it is done? When they refiner can see his own reflection in it. See the parallel? Our Refiner God is refining us until He sees His own reflection more clearly in us. Isn’t our God so good?

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Rebecca March 27, 2014 at 8:20 pm

Hello,
Like others, I found this by searching “can a save person still go to heaven after committing suicide”. Although I already knew the answer something told me to google it (imagine that..makes me giggle a little) but I just feel I’m at the end of my rope. I struggle with a painful illness daily (fibromyalgia) which social security barely recognizes as a disability much less physician’s, most of the population, and most importantly my family. I lost my job 5 years ago because of it. Our family financial problems, lets just say $$ is mostly non existent and blamed solely on me. I do work part time as a tutor, 3 hours a day making $9.71 an hour which don’t get me wrong I’m appreciative of but it really doesn’t help much. The dr’s I have been seeing for the past 12 years have me addicted to so many narcotic’s I’m a functioning drug addict. I’m trying to get off the pills on my own, now working out so well. My skin is crawling off my body the withdrawl’s from the med’s are so bad I keep retreating back to taking more after 30 hours. My depression is at an all time high and my spouse and older daughter (she is 25) put me down day in and day out. They call me lazy, I just don’t want to do anything, If I’d just try, Why don’t I just do something….It goes on and on and on…I sound as if I’m whining….I’ve had this for over 25 years from a car accident I had at 19 years of age. Every year if gets progressively worse and craving drugs narcotics doesn’t help the cause (been on them for 12 years). I so desperately need prayer. I just wish I could disappear. I feel that I would but I have a 15 year old daughter who needs me desperately. I can’t leave her alone with her dad and sister. Please pray that I will find my way and peace.

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Jack Wellman March 27, 2014 at 8:43 pm

I am so sorry Rebecca…and yes, I will be glad to pray for you my friend. What a hard road. I can see that you and Job will have a lot to share in the Kingdom someday on suffering. One thing about suffering, we all suffer. I suffer from fibromyalgia too and I also suffer from depression. Imagine that…a pastor who suffers and has depression but hey, guess what? So did Paul “who despaired even of life”, of Jeremiah “take my life” and also Jonah, Elijah, Moses, David, and a long list of biblical heroes. We are in the “hall of suffering” which in us is producing a sheer and utter dependence upon God…exactly what He wants! To lean only on Him (many who are well depend upon themselves!). What I fear most is that it sounds like your 25 year old daughter and spouse are not saved. You will hear someday “well done thou good and faithful servant” but your oldest daughter and spouse (Matt 7:21-23). If they are not saved, and it sounds like they are not, pray for their eternal future (Rev 20:11-15) because it will not go well for anyone who is not born again.

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Brandi March 27, 2014 at 8:48 pm

Hi Rebecca, I am so sorry to hear that you are suffering the way you are and I’m even more sorry that you have so little support and understanding of your condition. I’ve never had to do deal with what you are going through but I want you to know that I’m thinking of you and I’m praying for you and your situation. I will pray for your strength and I will pray for the Lord to open the eyes and hearts of your family and that they be more compassionate towards you and what you face every single day. I’m sending you love and I will keep you and your family in my heart and prayers.

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Jack Wellman March 27, 2014 at 8:52 pm

Thank you Brandi…you are one of the reasons that I love writing for this site….to be blessed and to see others be a blessing and I thank God for you and am also praying for Rebecca. Rebecca….how about that!? Already have 2 (at least) that love you, care for you and are praying for you.

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collins March 27, 2014 at 10:09 pm

make that three. hang in there rebecca, He know what He’s doing ….

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lila March 28, 2014 at 8:34 am

Rebecca hang in there. God is merciful, He will never put more on you than you can bear. Keep fighting! Im praying for you. You can beat depression

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